Markos Moulitsas calls Dennis Kucinich "little prick"

[angelicwoman]

MARKOS (3-9-2010): "Dennis Kucinich has always been a little prick, and that hasn't changed.
He's someone who deserves a real primary."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/9/844403/-Midday-open-thread

[mistertrickster]

1. What's the context of that?! You'd think Kossacks would be all for DK. nt

[angelicwoman]

2. Kos does not like that Kucinich is being consistent

In opposing health reform bills without a strong public option or a single-payer system.

[Cha]

6. No, that's not the reason..

"On Countdown, he told Lawrence O'Donnell that he considers Kucinich the Nader of healthcare reform and that he thinks it's worth primarying someone who's willing to keep millions of people uninsured for his unrealistic ideals!"

[EFerrari]

26. Right, because trading down has always been such a successful strategery

for Democrats.

What an idiot.

[pnwmom]

30. The Nader of healthcare reform. That's exactly what I've been thinking about him.

Another egotistical idealist, unwilling to compromise no matter who suffers as a result.

[laughingliberal]

47. Yeah! Like Nelson and Lieberman! Oh...wait...

they refused to compromise on the benefits to the industry and he's refusing to compromise on the benefits for people. I have to confess, I see a difference, here.

[Marr]

71. Yeah-- that's what I still can't understand.

I thought saying "no" to your party until they compromise and give you something was the very height of 'serious', 'adult' politics. Apparently that's only the case if you're right of center, or essentially an insurance industry lobbyist. How odd.

[EFerrari]

65. Why can't he just sell out like the rest of them and keep his head down?

@sshole!

[Cal Carpenter]

38. Right, because scapegoating is such a successful strategy

Good god, people still blame Nader for Gore/Lieberman losing in 2000, it's ridiculous.

As ridiculous as blaming Kucinich for millions of uninsured.

[GreenArrow]

67. Whereas Obama and his Congressional and industry cohorts

are striving to bring us the Nadir of health care reform.

[FiveGoodMen]

73. Good one!

:applause:

That was a really good pun.

[GreenArrow]

74. Thanks! It seemed way too obvious,

but what the heck.

[Marr]

70. Mandating that people buy insurance is not fixing anything.

I still can't believe that idea got out of the trial balloon phase, let alone make it this far. I would've thought people would've stoned any sell-out politician who even attempted to pass that one off as a solution. I suppose it speaks to the power of the insurance lobbies.

[PDJane]

4. No. Melitsos is backing the health care bill as it is,

Dennis isn't. I actually have more sympathy with Dennis on this. If there is a public option, medicare for all, it will come because the people want it, not because the white house fights for it.

I understand both sides of the debate; but a lot of those people who will die if the health bill doesn't pass will not be helped by the bill. It won't cover everyone, and that just means that there will be people who fall through the cracks. A mandate is not a particularly fine idea either, except for the insurance companies.

They are going to continue to bleed America white unless they have stronger sanctions imposed on them than the senate bill manages.

[Ozymanithrax]

3. Markos Moulitsas is not all members of DailyKos

But he is right.

[Electric Monk]

5. again?

[Go2Peace]

23. 3...2...1...locked!

Just more trolling for a fight. Yawn

[avaistheone1]

7. Speaking of pricks

F Markos.

[G_j]

8. DK never reverts to schoolyard insults

but if you've ever seen him grill an insurance CEO, you know he means business.

[Swamp Rat]

11. yep

;)

[G_j]

16. somehow the grilling image escaped me at first

but then I wondered what kind of sauce he might use.

:-)


Seriously, I would not like to be in their shoes. He is a relentless questioner.
Plenty of examples at Youtube.

[Swamp Rat]

22. Yes, but the greatest grilling I have ever seen on YouTube is: "George Galloway vs. U.S Senate"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk

I have watched this so many times that I cannot count. It is a thing of beauty to see George Galloway fry Norm Coleman and the U.S. Senate to a crisp. :)

[EFerrari]

27. Hey Swampy, that was beauteeful!

:hi:

[Swamp Rat]

28. Oi!!

:hi: How are you?:hug:

[Ignis]

57. A thing of beauty to behold, indeed.

:patriot:

[leftstreet]

9. And the world collectively says, "Markos who?" n/t

[flvegan]

10. flvegan calls Markos "stupid fucking douchebag"

What do I win?

By the way, Kos, better to BE a little prick with standards than to have one nonetheless, shitwit.

Edit, spelling.

[nutsnberries]

42. thanks.

:rofl:

i enjoyed that!

[CreekDog]

59. DTM

jk :rofl:

been reading Markos since he started blogging and I've always liked how he can be both his own person and at the same time ally strategically when he thinks it's worthwhile.

what's interesting to me is that both these guys believe in the same type of health care system, but Kos thinks it's worth voting for this in the interim.

but if i knew for sure a candidate's positions would be 100% implemented, DK would be closest to mine.

[MisterP]

12. neolibs and sycophants hate people like Kucinich, because he calls them out on the mountains of crap

that they keep flinging at us: they give us war, oligarchy, purges, bankers gambling with our lives and homes (and then we bail them out), and enslavement to insurers. then when we complain it's "exaggerated" and we have to buckle down, grow up, not cut off our nose to spite our face, and vote for 4 more years of Reagan-Bush feces. the worse a candidate, the more howlingly angry they are, because they've poured all their hopes and desires into this empty suit: UCLA is covered with stencils of Obama endorsing a walkout over ever-rising fees. newsflash: he'd rather hire Russian boyars to ride by and whip you than help scummy commoners like you. and the crappier a bill (HCR), the more angry people get about anyone who dares spurn this gift from the gods.

[dchill]

32. What you said.

[Echo In Light]

53. Well put

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. markos, get a real job & find some wisdom & humility

[girl gone mad]

14. Stay classy, Kos.

Oh, wait.. you never were.

[Crabby Appleton]

15. That primary stuff worked out so well in Connecticut

[Festivito]

17. Oh, NAME-CALLING... a poor minds way to fight clarity.

Pathetic.

[budkin]

18. That actually really surprised me... I'm huge fans of both of them.

[Cleita]

20. Me too, but I'm a bigger fan of Dennis, so it seems I

have picked a side.

[lonestarnot]

19. And MD deserves a biatch slap!

[JI7]

21. i use to call Markos that

[EFerrari]

24. I never have but I guess it's time to start.

He embarrasses himself and everyone on the left every time he talks in public for more than 30 seconds.

[Kitty Herder]

34. I still do.

[Kalun D]

25. I wonder

If Markos is a Cointel'r

[provis99]

29. that Kos guy is still around? Attention whore.

his blog is self-imploding as his members leave in droves for the Huffington Post and other real blogs, so he has the need to verbally shit on everyone more liberal or intelligent than himself.

I'm just waiting for him to announce that he has now become and Ayn Rand fan, as the peasants have failed to realize his greatness.

[Cha]

35. An attentionwhore like the attentionwhore dennis?

[muffin1]

40. At least he stands up for what he believes,

you know the Democratic principles we all used to share here?

It's a hell of a lot more than can be said for the blue-dogs in Congress. Not to mention Obama. That's why we're in the shit hole we are in right now - too much bending over and caving to repukes like Snowe, Grassley, Lieberman, Nelson, Lincoln, and all the rest.

If we don't start standing up for what is right, we are doomed to be under the thumbs of these wishy-washy, namby-pamby "leaders" forever.

Why the fuck did we even have an election? For crying out loud, WE WON. It's time we started acting like it.
When they win, and they will, then THEY get to lead. That's how it works.

[Cha]

41. And he's a lying lttle prick

[muffin1]

45. Ooooh...good one.

:eyes:

[harkadog]

44. At least Dennis has been elected to Congress.

Kos is a self appointed blowhard.

[upi402]

31. Sad, and I thought Markos Moulitsas was alright

We complain that Dems are spineless, and when one faces-down corporatism we kneecap him.

[Raine]

33. Well I call MM an ASSHOLE. nt

[ShortnFiery]

63. +1000

:thumbsup:

[joeybee12]

36. One of the many reasons I have not clicked on kos for over 18 months...n/t

[Hell Hath No Fury]

37. Markos --

Dude, you are dead wrong on this one. DK should be praised for telling the Truth about what this bill does and does not.

Sorry if you can't handle that. :(

[arcadian]

39. Boy, that's some real political discourse you got going on there, Markos.

[Mari333]

43. Dennis has integrity..he knows the bill as it stands is a giveaway and total bullshit

god bless him for not bending over to the health insurance lobbyists.

[DevonRex]

46. I'll donate to Kooch's primary challenger. If he votes with the Republicans

he deserves to be treated like a Republican.

[Mari333]

48. tell daily kos to BACK OFF KUCINICH

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=398722840277&ref=nf&v=info#!/group.php?v=wall&ref=nf&gid=398722840277

[spoony]

49. What's his name here?

I have a couple guesses.

[earth mom]

50. Fuck Markos and KOS. Never did like that site especially after no talk about MIHOP/LIHOP

was allowed. Plus that site is a pain in the ass to read. :thumbsdown:

Why in the hell anyone goes there I'll never understand especially when the owner sounds and acts like a god damn rethug!

[frylock]

51. put your money where your piehole is, dickweed..

why don't you run against him markos? it would be a pleasure watching your smug ass smacked down a few pegs as you had your ASS handed to you. DK isn't going to be primaried.

[omega minimo]

52. Markos is an arrogant little prick

so there

[rcrush]

54. Yeah well Daily Kos is overrated

[LostInAnomie]

55. He's right. DK is a grandstanding punchline.

[EFerrari]

64. Dennis has challengers all the time and the deadline for filing has passed.

Who is grandstanding?

[Better Believe It]

56. A threat by so-called "centrists" to run someone against him?

[stranger81]

58. Takes one to know one.

Kos saving all his vitriol for one of the most progressive members of Congress, while sparing his tongue re Stupak & his cabal of idiots and all the other conserv-a-dems standing in the way of health insurance reform, says a thing or two about where he really stands.

[JackRiddler]

60. In case you were still confused about what Lil Markos (former CIA intern) is really about.

[Last_Stand]

61. Former raygun republican, former CIA employee...

Yeah, I trust him.

[arthritisR_US]

66. why do so many laud his every word? n/t

[troubledamerican]

76. ex-military, ex-El Salvador landed gentry family ... C.harlatan I.n A.ction

[GeorgeGist]

62. The kettle ...

speaks.

[upi402]

69. The pot...

appears here in a lovely pineapple yellow Teflon Mackintosh for Spring with matching bumber for those remaining days with inclement weather. :)

[NNadir]

68. I personally, being a bigot, have no use for people who's name begins with "K."

This includes people who's nicknames begin with K.

I have little or no use for Kucinich myself, but I think that Kos is more than a little grandiose too. He, and Keith Olberman seem to have think they were elected spokespeople for Democrats.

I voted with my feet on that proposition, not that either of them seem prepared to question their own authority as a result of any grounds.

I also have very little use for some of Kos's front pagers, particularly those who represent that they are "fair and balanced" and those who want to represent their tenure as interns and Nobel Prize winning authority.

Some of them are "Glenn Beck's" of the left, replete with bathetic selective attention (or possibly inattention) to very serious issues.

The science, in particular, on that website is often just this side of creationist and I have personally seen stuff that is appalling.

I have come to see some of them as fundementally dangerous people.

Other than those minor points, disregard for science, inflated self aggrandizement, lack of nuanced thinking, etc, I agree with Kos.

[Marr]

72. Where's the "compromise"? I thought it was all about compromising to

to get other people on board. I mean surely, if these clowns are willing to bend over backwards to get Republican or "Centrist" support... they should be willing to negotiate with their own left wing as well... right?

No...?

[JHB]

75. Yeah, so emotions are running a little high. How is that news? n/t

[Moochy]

77. I rarely visited dkos but after seeing his spittle covered mug

on Countdown last nite I deleted the bookmarks lol. no reason to visit a ratfuckers website.