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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:15 PM
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Name something you wouldn't mind either the permission or the outlawing thereof.
Let me explain further by giving an example.

I understand the prohibitions of some kinds of pro-Nazi speech in some countries, and I don't think such countries are nondemocratic because of that. I wouldn't mind living in such a country, and I wouldn't go out of my way to protest such laws. On the other hand, I admire the US-style no-exceptions approach to political speech, and don't get especially annoyed even when I see the KKK got the chance to hold a rally. Again, I wouldn't mind living in a place with laws like that. It's OK either way as long as the law is clear and its application is consistent.

Any other issue in which you feel likewise? Maybe speed limits? Death penalty? Gun control? Drinking age?

Discuss.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:17 PM
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1. Big & Stupid vehicles
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:17 PM
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2. This, in a nutshell, is one of the primary problems with humanity
one group of people telling another group how to live.

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:19 PM
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3. I would outlaw spandex
but I would dearly love for this to be the new National Anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYU7oG2V7uc
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:46 PM
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13. I just sent that link to everyone I like to annoy.
Its like........Rick Roll in hell, or something......

:rofl:
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:52 PM
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15. thanks, I think.
That's my new favorite song..... Aaaaarrrrggghhhhhhhhhhh.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:19 PM
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4. Leave speech completely free.
But ban cable news. I'm kidding, kind of.

Also, sell guns for a buck a piece, but make bullets 5 million bucks each.

One more thing, send Andy Dick somewhere, any where else.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:23 PM
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22. I was thinking we could require all bullets be made of gold.
It's the perfect metal for bullets and not as hazardous to California Condors as lead.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:22 PM
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5. Broad topic
outlaw the death penalty, control handguns, allow speech, legalize all drugs, but spend money on drug treatment programs. Oh, and outlaw discrimination based on sexual preference. There are more, but that's off the top of my head.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:22 PM
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6. Mobile homes.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:24 PM
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8. Especially in high-wind areas!
You know what a hurricane and a redneck divorce have in common? Either one happens, you know someone's going to lose a trailer.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:25 PM
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9. Now that's funny, right there, I don't care who you are!
:D
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:04 PM
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20. I have a feeling there will be some pissed off people at that joke.
I think there are many DUers who live in trailers.
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:26 PM
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26. I think that would be a tornado, not hurricane
In the mid-south (Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, etc.) it's the tornadoes that target mobile home parks not hurricanes. Other than that, it's a great joke. I'm forwarding it to my in-laws who own a trailer park.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:26 PM
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28. On the Atlantic coast, hurricanes do that
After Hurricanes Floyd and Fran, they showed overhead of trailer parks...the homes looked like they'd been peeled apart.
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NoNothing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:23 PM
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7. Anything that doesn't affect me personally
I guess, is the answer most people seem to have.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:32 PM
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10. Actually, if these things didn't affect people personally, we wouldn't want them outlawed.
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NoNothing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:49 PM
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14. Granted
I should have used the term "negatively affect."
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:37 PM
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11. Marijuana for recreational use.
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 12:40 PM by Tommy_Carcetti
I could care less either way. On the one hand, I agree it isn't that dangerous a substance as narcotics go, and probably is on the same level as alcohol (although unlike alcohol, it has never been truly accepted as a cultural norm). And too much resources are used against it. I don't know about legalization, but I think decriminalization wouldn't be a bad idea--i.e. treating it like one might treat a traffic ticket. Simple "fines" (read: user fee) for people who get "caught" might be a decent revenue maker.

On the other hand, the fact that it is illegal is no big deal to me, and people who make mountains about the fact that is illegal and how supposedly "unjust" it is and what a supposed tragedy that is--those people seriously need to get some priorities in life. It's pot, people, not the right to vote. If it bothers you that much that it is illegal, find a new hobby.

Note I do wholeheartedly agree with marijuana being legal for medicinal use via a prescription. On the other hand, I don't think we should legalize all drugs--I mean, seriously, I don't think having all the heroin, cocaine and crystal meth out there to just flow freely can in any way be a good thing, I'm sorry.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:38 PM
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12. yup
the only exception i think is for cancer patients and others for whom pot can be miraculously good
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:02 PM
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17. I have to take exception to that
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 01:03 PM by Cal Carpenter
"It's pot, people, not the right to vote. If it bothers you that much that it is illegal, find a new hobby."

There are hundreds of thousands of nonviolent people in jail for marijuana sale, possession, 'manufacturer', etc. It is a huge drain on governmental budgets, not to mention, for many of these 'criminals', it IS in fact the right to vote being lost. The drug war is basically another for-profit industry, and the focus on pot of all things makes it that much more absurd.

It's a lot more than 'hey man, I like smoking weed'. It's a huge national policy issue.

eta: and the law disproportionately affects minorities and the poor - not very many middle class white kids swinging bags in college get caught or get in serious trouble if they do...

It's major injustice.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:04 PM
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19. And serves as a vehicle for the police state apparatus, which should be opposed at every turn
... for a host of obvious reasons
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:12 PM
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21. I understand what you're trying to get at, but...
....the loss of the right to vote for a conviction (which BTW usually happens only in circumstances of felonies, and most minor possessions are simply misdemeanors)in your circumstance would only happen after one is convicted of the pot crime. Regardless of whether one believes the law is right or just, the person who uses pot still knows that it is illegal and knowingly takes the risk that he/she may get caught.

Like I said, I agree way too much emphasis is put on pot on drugs as opposed to other issues, and frankly if they do decriminalize or legalize it I really wouldn't care one bit. But as it stands right now, it still is illegal in most circumstances so the people who get caught with it can't plead ignorance to the fact.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:32 PM
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27. Wow.
I absolutely disagree with everything you've said. The only way to compare cannabis to alcohol is to say that one ruins millions of people's lives and it's legal and the other is not legal. It also feels way better to be stoned than drunk, I've never thrown up from smoking too much pot, I just go to sleep.

Compare alcohol deaths to pot deaths, oh wait you can't because there has never been one reported incident of someone dying of a pot overdose.

It is an issue when thousands of people sit unjustly in prisons across America for the possession of something that is harmless. As a recreational substance it's the most harmless we have.

As far as the miracles I see everyday in pain and symptom management? I've never seen anything like it. I have a friend with MS who walks because of cannabis.

Don't even get me started on hemp and how it can save the world.

You should get some information and rethink your stand on this, I'm not trying to be snarky, really. The only harm that has ever come from cannabis is the harm that comes from it being illegal. You don't realize it I'm sure, but you're really coming off as a cannabis bigot.

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:58 PM
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16. haggis
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:03 PM
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18. Threads about Dennis Kucinich...
either for or against :)

Sid
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:28 PM
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23. I'd outlaw personal automobiles.
Automobiles are smelly, bad for the environment, and kill people.
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la_chupa Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:09 PM
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24. apparently in NC singing off key is illegal
which I'm ok with

I've been watching this stuff about Phelps and his god hates fags bit at Soldiers' funerals. I would like to see that stopped but I don't know how you'd do it.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:12 PM
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25. I'd always worry about where the line would get drawn
And what could be determined to be "pro-Nazi."

That's why I prefer our approach.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:27 PM
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29. Usury. nt
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:29 PM
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30. Manchester United.
I'd outlaw them ever playing again with strikers having more than one leg.
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