Please explain before my head explodes: Pelosi v. Durbin's office regarding the PO

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I watched Pelosi's press conference few minutes ago, she was very clear that the PO is NOT part of the reconciliation bill to pass the fixes...etc.

Durbin's office is saying that he would whip for it if Pelosi includes it?

Does this mean they both decided that she will not include it?

Pelosi was very clear that the House votes on the Senate Bill and it does not include a PO, reconciliation vote is for fixes only/very narrow...etc.

What am I missing here?

How the fuck does this work?

[joeybee12]

1. It's called passing the buck...Durbin knows she can't include it, so

he's trying to make himself look good...he's just another tool apparently.

[Bluebear]

2. Obama said the bill he signs MUST include a public option, so they better work it out.

[still_one]

3. Do you have a link for that? /nt

[Hell Hath No Fury]

11. Here you go --

"ny plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans - including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest - and choose what's best for your family."



http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-demands-the-bill-i-sign-must-include-public-option.php

[Better Today]

14. And you believed in his tenacity at the time, huh? Real life sucks, huh?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

16. I am no KoolAid drinker --

I just love pointing out his promises to the ones who do imbibe every chance I get. :evilgrin:. :(

[leeroysphitz]

4. +1

:rofl: :spray:

ETA:I recommend your reply for a DUzy.

[tabatha]

5. It is called confusing the enemy.

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6. Me?

lol...

[Incitatus]

7. yup

[tabatha]

8. Nope, you are just a bystander.

[CrispyQ]

10. Yes, and the People are the enemy.

The People need to wake up to the fact that the two party system is simply a facade to lull us into the belief that someone is fighting for us. No one is fighting for us. Our government is owned by the corporations & does their bidding.

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9. Great minds...Ezra Klein asking the same question I did: Very alive or totally dead?

The public option: Very alive or totally dead?
The public option letter in the Senate has more than 40 signatories now. That would seem to push it well beyond the point of viability. But with Nancy Pelosi saying that the Senate doesn't have the votes and "it's not in the reconciliation," it's not exhibiting many signs of life.

As far as I can tell, the story of the public option's resurgence has been a mixture of smart organizing and Senate cowardice. Few senators wanted to stand against the thing. But nor did they want to bring it back into play. So a number of them signed the letter under pressure, waiting and hoping that someone else -- maybe the leadership or the White House -- would figure this out for them. The White House and Pelosi have attempted a version of that. They're not coming out against the public option push; they're just saying the votes don't exist. And maybe they don''t. The letter has 41 senators signed on, which is still fewer than 50.

But the proper way to decide this is with a vote. Sen. Bernard Sanders has promised to bring the public option up in an amendment to the reconciliation package. Good. And if it passes, then Republicans can take a good, long look in the mirror and ask themselves if forcing the Democrats to use a reconciliation strategy rather than compromising to make the bill friendlier to conservative insights was really such a good idea. I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world if relentless obstruction imposed policy costs on Republicans.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/

[gateley]

12. Yep, Bernie may be our savior on this. Like the OP, I was flummoxed --

Pelosi says we don't have the votes, Durbin says if Pelosi includes it he'll get the votes? So I'm thinking what's the prob? :shrug:

I think Ezra's explanation is valid.

We gotta help Bernie.

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13. I am listening to Senator Sanders now on Thom Hartmann...He talked about how he is looking for ways

to include the PO in the reconciliation fix bill.

I trust him, I know if he is on it, then we are in good hands!

[gateley]

17. Damn! I spaced on Brunch with Bernie -- thanks for the reminder! Although

I may have missed him by now (commercial is on).

But I'm with you, I trust Bernie and feel a sense of relief/security/hope that he's taken this on. :hi:

[laughingliberal]

19. Senate leadership has said they can't allow amendments so Bernie's efforts are

commendable but unlikely to produce anything.

If Durbin says he will whip the bill in the Senate, it's not up to Pelosi to decide the Senate doesn't have the bill. She needs to hear from people.

[valerief]

15. I wonder if they're all afraid of semis behind them now. nt

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18. The HP is now up with some more on this story, Adam Green quoted...etc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/12/pelosi-public-option_n_496559.html

[laughingliberal]

21. Hopefully, they will have their online campaign targeting Pelosi and the House up soon

Meanwhile, we can call her and the House members and continue the pressure on the Senate. The more Senators who voice support for it the harder it gets to say the votes aren't there. Then we target the holdouts.

[tekisui]

20. THey are winking at each other while fucking us over.

[Javaman]

22. See it's like this...

Obama won't sign a bill unless it has the public option, so if it doesn't have one, he will sign it.

All clear? :silly: