Ever Get The Feeling That Obama Planned On Being a One Term...

[rsmith6621]

....PRESIDENT???

He wont push Senators to support the public option.....He wont prosecute the former regime after boosting of being a supporter and enforcer of the constitution......he hasn't yet offered a the consumer a BAIL OUT......Has sold out to an extension of the Patriot Act...has not stopped the Bush NSA invasion of privacy.....and today he showed his lack of support for public education and teachers..


He is showing his support for the corporate sector more and more.... Not The Change I Voted For...

[Dinger]

1. K & R

Enough is enough.

[Gman2]

2. Ever get the feeling that Rethugs wanted to lose THIS one?

That gramps was a plant. That GWB and ilk knew this would happen? That GWB intended the economy to collapse on Obama's head?

[Maccagirl]

22. I have that feeling too

But thanks to the Teabaggers, the media etc they really believe they have their mojo back. They are in for a huge smackdown-maybe not in 2010, but later.

[laughingliberal]

31. I think there is some truth to that

I think they did not expect the crash to occur right before the election. I think they believed it would happen in the early months of Obama's administration and they could put it off to his anti-business policies. The Sept crash was a surprise.

I remember wondering in 2000 why the party was not fighting harder for Gore. One theory I had at the time which I also heard a couple of commentators whisper was that they knew we would fall into recession soon and if Bush was in office, he would be blamed for it.

I think there definitely is some of this that goes on in the political process.

[newspeak]

61. so, maybe that's why * was all gungho about privatizing SS

you think he thought he could give a huge wad of cash to his Wall Street best buds to keep it afloat?

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[Gman2]

4. You voted in a corporate controlled process, that's all.

[CrispyQ]

23. That's it in a nutshell.

The only candidates that will ever make it to the top of the ticket will always be corporatists. Oh, our party's prez may throw us an extra crumb or two off the banquet table, but the message will remain the same, regardless of who is prez: The People are not invited to the banquet. And, they're going to stick us with the bill for it.

[whattheidonot]

48. correct.

anybody that seriously challenged the corporate, globalist order would have little money for campaigning and and wind up dead or gone. these corporate types rule the roost. Obama knows that and frequently does their bidding.

[cliffordu]

10. I feel for ya, I really do.

[jaxx]

14. That's an odd thing to say.

[HuckleB]

27. Oh brother.

Are you serious?

:eyes:

[Mari333]

5. or he was crowned by the powers that be ?

I have a sneaky feeling that the die is cast on every candidate long beforehand, and the people have nothing to say about it.

i.e., democracy is a sham in this country.

[Nancy Ruth]

45. Sadly, I agree.

[laughingliberal]

6. Maybe but what I really think is everything fell apart when we got the 60th vote in the Senate

Up until then everything could have been put off on the filibuster and having to be 'realistic.'

[MindandSoul]

7. I respecfully (if there is such a possibility!) disagree.

I agree that President Obama is pretty sure he will not get re-elected. But I believe he is pursuing his vision and is changing the government as fast as he can. . .in spite of all the dirty politics thrown at him, the massive opposition from both the Right and the Left, and the huge mess he stepped in (and I would say that we, as Citizens,probably only see the tip of the iceberg when that mess is concerned!).

And it is precisely because he is trying to affect as many changes as he can in a short time that he probably won't be reelected. But I believe that he prefers to keep his integrity and be true to himself and his vision for 4 years rather than try to please everyone by being a "do nothing, try nothing" President. . .a puppet. . .and be reelected by the big corporations money (especially with the Supreme Court along party line decision to leave a wide open door for the corporations to elect our next President!).

And YOU are playing right in the hands of the Obama haters. . .

[rsmith6621]

18. He Said He Was Going to Be a Listener

...he has not listen...he has carried on the insidious policy's of BUSH..... just see how many time Pharma/HCA have visited the White House....Obama was trying to hide the visitors logs just like BUSH/CHENEY......

Seems like more of the same..... the public wants the public option/single payer and so did Obama in the beginning I guess he has his bank accounts padded by now for after 2012..

[Catshrink]

24. He doesn't listen to teachers on education issues

he only listens to billionaires.

One term.

[blindpig]

58. Are you from Bizarro-world?

Just wondering.

Yeah, sure, vision and change, my ass. He is the near perfect tool of the ruling class.

[MindandSoul]

63. Not sure what a Bizarro-world is. . .but are you an Infowars maniac???

[blindpig]

64. I have no idea what that is

The Bizarro-world is a subcreation of Superman Comics, everything is opposite.

[cliffordu]

8. No.

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[nimvg]

19. Yes...

Mitt has a good chance, if for no other reason than Obama is unlikely to carry Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Virginia or North Carolina again. Kasich is a dim bulb but Ohioans like him and he'll beat Strickland. Rendell has made numerous enemies in Pennsylvania with his tax hikes. Florida, North Carolina and Virginia are trending red again.

Read the article that Pat Caddell wrote on Friday. It's all in there.

[Marr]

11. I don't agree, actually. I think he and the rest of his DLC crew think its still 1995.

They're disconnected and don't realize how much worse things have become for the average worker, or how cynical and fed up we are. Triangulation will not fly in the current climate. Look how they reacted to the loss of that Massachusetts Senate seat. They really didn't seem to see it coming.

[jaxx]

12. Nope.

But I've got the feeling some hope he will be. Silly because he's doing more good for this country than we've seen in a very long time.

[bigtree]

13. I think he calculated to compromise more in the early part of his term

I also believe he'll finish with a more populist, partisan tone; partly because I envision a more entrenched Congress; and partly because I think this president will realize and exercise more of the persuasive power he has to effect the changes he generated so much support for in the campaign.

I think what you're suggesting is that he's somehow in league with the republicans on that. Ridiculous. But I do think that someone contemplating just one term would work with much more zeal to effect the changes they want in the short time they're in office.

[saltpoint]

15. I'm rooting for two terms and hope that a slew of rightwing Supreme

Court justices retire over the 8-year span.

[Catshrink]

21. And I still believe in the tooth fairy.

[saltpoint]

30. I've seen no clinical evidence that argues against the existence of

a tooth fairy.

There is no reason to doubt that there is really a Zorro either. I happen to KNOW that Zorro is real.

[Catshrink]

32. Yeah?

Well I lost a tooth on Thursday and I didn't get my pony.

[saltpoint]

35. No, no. You don't get quadroped animals for lost teeth.

It's in the rules.

[stillwaiting]

16. When he recently said that he had to do what he felt needed to be done even if

he would only be a one term President, I think it reflected on his penchant to push for pro-corporate policies despite how his base felt about those policies.

It would have been nice had we elected a Democrat that felt the same way and pushed for pro-working class policies.

It's hard to imagine my disgust with Obama's first year could get worse, but if the Repubs do indeed retake the House I imagine the next few years are going to be horrifying indeed.

And Obama WILL sign the legislation passed by the House and the Corporate controlled Senate.

Oh, Yes He CAN! And he will being all bipartisan and such.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

17. Or a zero term president.

sometimes it seems like the real goal was getting the job, not what could be done with the job.

[Gin]

38. I agree....once he got the job...mission accomplished

wasn't there a movie about a candidate who never thought he would win..but guess what...he won....the movie ended.

I have heard President Obama mention being a one term President many times...that made me wonder....I don't think I have ever heard a President say that.

[timeforpeace]

62. Bullseye.

[SoCalDem]

20. NOPE.. why?

If he had , he would have acted boldly as soon as he was inaugurated..and would have insisted on a true national health care plan..

and it would have worked, because the republicans were rolled back on their heels, in total disarray, and Obama had a 72% approval rating..

He would have not performed at the bipartisan kabuki threatre, which wasted a whole year and allowed the republicans time to re-group..

His whole agenda could have been enacted in record time, and by now we would be seeing some results

[BeFree]

46. Yeah

What America needs is a dictator!!

Send in the troops to get our way!!

Funny, that's what the teabaggers think we have.

[SoCalDem]

50. Getting the agenda you ran on and were elected to enact

is not "being a dictator".. :)

[HuckleB]

25. Nope.

Quite frankly, I don't see anyone around who would do a better job under the circumstances. I'm not saying he hasn't made plenty of mistakes. And I certainly disagree with him on many issues, but, in general, an objective look at how he's handled himself says he doing just fine.

[gulliver]

26. Absurd unless you are GOP in your leanings

Then it makes sense. For those who are Progressive, the idea you are talking about is the rankest form of stupidity and faithlessness.

[HuckleB]

28. +1

[Catshrink]

29. Obama is not a progressive

He's proven that already.

[laughingliberal]

37. +1 nt

[Marr]

41. "Faithlessness"? Why do I keep reading these excoriations from

Obama supporters that people are not being sufficiently "loyal" or not showing enough "faith"? He's a politician. He's supposed to work for and be loyal to you -- not vice-versa.

[gulliver]

54. I think you might be mistaking loyalty for servitude.

Yes, there are a bunch of oversimplified "truths" that could be fixated on. Obama's a public servant, so he should do what I voted for him to do. Obama's a politician, so he can't be trusted, just like any politician. Obama is supposed to be loyal to the voters who voted for him, not the other people in the country. ...and on and on and (unfortunately) on and on.

It's all so much claptrap.

Loyalty works both ways. I think the kind of "loyalty" you are describing is one way. You expect Obama to be loyal to you and you don't think you need to be loyal to him. If you think about it, that means your version of loyalty amounts to your being loyal to yourself. I'm not sure what you call that, but it's not loyalty.

We do owe Obama our loyalty, our benefit of the doubt, our positive feedback for the many things he is doing right. You can't get anywhere if you insist on staying in your own personal comfort zone for the entire trip. That's weakness. Obama is moving things in the right direction. No one said the goals are easy. No one said everyone was going to get everything they wanted right away in exactly the way they wanted it.

Criticize. Fine. But don't threaten (i.e., "one term president BS"). That is corrosive.

[SidDithers]

33. Nope. And unrec...nt

Sid

[Scurrilous]

34. No.

:thumbsdown:

[napi21]

36. NO! I think many of US heard what we wanted to hear. It's

been an unwritten but well understood rule that no new administration would ever prosecute a previous one for crime, and that rule has been in place an accepted for many years. I don't recall Obama ever saying he WOULD prosecute, but WE all wanted it so bad, and the offenses were so blatant, we just KNEW the Dems would go after them.

After all the bank bailouts that were put in motion under Bush, and the passage if the the stimulus bill I doubt he would ever be able to push a consumer bail out through congress & to be honest, I don't think we have the money to do it either.

As to the Patriot Act, I'm not privy to top security info & neither are you. Maybe there really IS justifiable cause to renew the parts of the Patriot Act. We did experience the "Underwear Bomber" on Christmas, and the arrest of several other people who had links to the same people in Yemen.

Although I am most likely much older than you, I think we are all a big part of an instant gratification society. We don't think he's done enough quickly enough. Each time I start thinking that way, I take a deep breath, think about how TERRIBLE the previous 8 years had been, realize what a BIG MESS he inherited, and smile that Obama is our President now.

[ensho]

39. NO

nt

[niceypoo]

40. No

A republican I work with said referring to Obama, 'this isnt the change I voted for.' I asked him, 'Did you vote for Obama?' and he said, 'No!'

What an idiot

[Enrique]

42. he's doing those things to HELP him win a second term

it's called triangulation.

[Beacool]

43. With the size of his ego????

Please.......

:rofl:

[Itchinjim]

44. No, but I got the feeling that this is a dumb fucking post.

[seabeckind]

49. Yep. n/t

[Pirate Smile]

47. No

[udbcrzy2]

51. He got stuck with it

I really believe that if the wall-street crash happened before the primary that he would have pulled back and let Hillary take it. I think he was stuck at this point.

[Richardo]

52. Henceforth, any poster using the term "not the change I voted for" shall be banned and tasered

...were this my site.

Join all the 'telling truth to power' and 'was based on lies' nimrods in that line over there. :eyes:

[SidDithers]

66. If only that were so...nt

Sid

[old mark]

53. No, but with all the bullshit he gets from both sides, I would not blame him

if he just handed it all over to Palin as revenge.

mark

[peace13]

55. Noper! n/t

[frebrd]

56. Yep! K&R

[RB TexLa]

57. When has he ever said he is running in 2012? Until then it's just an assumption.

Usually a correct assumption but still an assumption.

[blindpig]

59. Seems that way...

Look at it this way, his place in history is assured, that's a given. The price he paid for that honor was to do the bidding of his big backers, more and more apparent. It is not at all complicated.

[GreenArrow]

68. That's how I see it too. n/t

.

[shotten99]

60. No.

[NoPasaran]

65. Do you ever feel as if your mind had started to erode?

[anonymous171]

67. I think he just doesn't understand how politics actually works. Compromise is for losers. nt

[Raine]

69. If he didn't he sure has done a "good" job

of putting himself on that path.