The Best Reason To Support HCR

[DemocratSinceBirth]

We can not let the Republicants roll us on this. The Republicants are intent on undermining President Obama's legitimacy and authority and they have chosen health care to use as a crucible. That alone is enough to support the bill.

[dkf]

1. Isn't it sad it's turned into a save Obama bill.

It's kind of pathetic it has come to this. Very weak indeed.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. That's More Than Reason Enough To Support It

I can't fathom how humiliating a loss would be.

[dkf]

3. I think he arrogantly bargained away our best opportunities

To get a bill that works. His lack of support for the public option scares me as it doesn't make sense other than a slimy Backroom agreement with people who are perfectly fine gouging the public.

The trust is gone. I won't save him for the sake of saving him.

[bvar22]

14. Yes!

We need to force 45 Million Americans in to the "Exchange" pens where they MUST buy useless Health Insurance that they can't afford to use (High Co-Pay/High Deductible) because Obama will be embarrassed if we don't.


I can't think of a WORSE reason to support this pathetic bill.

2012 WILL be MORE humiliating if we DO pass this Republican (National RomneyCare) Mandated Health Insurance Bill.

[rucky]

4. that's the best political reason

but the most compelling reason to me is for the population of sick people who've been denied coverage. That's actually the only reason I support this bill.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. The Bill Is Far From Perfect. Fifteen Million People Will Still Be Uninsured

I support it largely out of political reasons.

[cornermouse]

8. A freudian peek into your psyche?

:eyes:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. The R Is Right Next To The T

The penalty for my clowing through a ninth grade course in typing.

[cornermouse]

13. Actually I ignored your typo.

This is what I was referring to. "I support it largely out of political reasons."

Whatever happened to the difference between right and wrong as opposed to political expediency?

Add: 3324SS says it well.

[3324SS]

5. Why support a Bill that is against

what I believe in just to give Obama a minor victory over the Pubs?

Forget it unlike some I have courage of conviction.

If the people decide that this HCR bill masked as another corporate giveaway and decide to punish the Dems, so be it.

It is Obama and the Dems own Fault.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. A Minor Victory?

I can't think of a bigger defeat than this for a sitting president.

Wait.

I can. When the Republicants and some compliant Democrats rolled Bill Clinton on "gays in the military."

And we still don't have equality nearly twenty years later.

[3324SS]

9. Yes a minor victory

the bill as it is today is mostly a corporate give away that the Pubs love, the crumbs for us peasants represents the minor victory.

In the big picture it is not worth it.

If it is not passed we have status quo, if it passes we have status quo with mandatory private insurance purchase, plus a multi-billion dollar gift to the Insurance companies.


I will take the status quo without the corporate give away.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. If The Republicants Love It Why Are They Univerally Opposed?

They hate President Obama, us, and everything he and we represent and want to destroy him and us.

[3324SS]

12. It is nothing but a distraction

to keep the racist Pub base frothing at the mouth.

Who gains if the current HCR Bills passes, not the people, but the Insurance companies.

If there were a Public Option or Price Controls then I would support it, but as it is now, I cannot support it.

This bill is not a compromise with Pubs in anyway shape or form, it is noting but a gift to insurance companies.

[leftstreet]

15. Obama defeated the Republicans in November 2008 n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. And Stopping Almost Everything He's Tried To Accomplish Is Their Revenge

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[Kalun D]

19. Nothing To Do

""And Stopping Almost Everything He's Tried To Accomplish Is Their Revenge""

and that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Obama has done ZERO for the working class.

He didn't even try for a public option much less single payer

the minority party is irrelevant when the dems have a super majority. Obama could have passed whatever he wanted from day one with reconciliation

he didn't even try cuz it's not what his corporate handlers want

Didn't you notice the back door deals with big Pharma and the health care industry?

the rascally repugs is just a distraction while the corp-a-dems aided and abetted by Obama continue to as*-rape the working class

You didn't notice when Obama pushed through a $700 Billion giveaway to the crooked bankers that intentionally caused the problem in the first place? You didn't notice when he appointed the same crooked bankers to positions of oversite? CLUE, Bernanke and Geitner are REPUBLICANS. Is Obama helping them get revenge? LOLZ!!! No, he's on their side, it's the corporate side against you and I, the workers.

[quinnox]

17. I find this a persuasive argument

I have been wavering on this and I am coming around that its probably best to pass this thing, you make a good point about denying the republicans a victory.

[Kalun D]

20. Support

Support the spineless dems even though they've haven't done jack for the working man.

Support a 2700 page bill even when you don't have a clue what's really in it.

Support mandatory purchase insurance by all sold by private corporations. That's got to be against the constitution.

[stillwaiting]

18. If the Democrats pass this bill, the Republicans WILL be able to roll us.

This passes and, as others have said, the Republican ads against the Democrats will write themselves in '10 and '12.

It will be devastating to the Democratic Party and rightfully so!

I honestly believe that regulation will not occur, that there will be no price controls, that rescission will still be allowed due to "fraud" (same as it ever was), etc.

Not. Good. At. All. For most Americans.

If it does help a tiny portion I will be thankful, but it is going to REALLY suck for most of us. And that majority will blame the Democrats. If ALL Republicans vote against it how could they not??!

[The Gunslinger]

21. So lets pass a republican bill then...

The republicans secretly really do like this pro corporate bill.