German Intelligence Agency Fights to Keep Nazi Files Secret after 50 Years

[The Straight Story]

German Intelligence Agency Fights to Keep Nazi Files Secret after 50 Years

What does Germany have to hide by keeping secret the files on one of the Nazis’ most notorious leaders? Possibly details about how the Germans and other Europeans helped Holocaust architect Adolf Eichmann flee the country after the end of World War II.

A German journalist has filed a lawsuit to force the German government to release the Eichmann files, which cover about 4,500 pages of documents. The government claims the documents should remain locked away on grounds of national security, saying much of the information was given to Germany by another foreign intelligence source, possibly Israel’s Mossad. Officials argue the release of sensitive information might prevent other governments from sharing with Germany in the future.

But journalists and Nazi experts say the real reason the files remain hidden is because they contain intelligence about German, Italian and Vatican officials who assisted Eichmann get out of Europe and relocate to Argentina, where he lived with his family until Mossad captured him in 1960. The records also may reveal how German officials stationed in Argentina fraternized with former Nazis hiding in plain sight in Buenos Aires and other cities.

http://www.allgov.com/Controversies/ViewNews/German_Intelligence_Agency_Fights_to_Keep_Nazi_Files_Secret_after_50_Years_100314

[howard112211]

1. how come is it that with the words "kept secret out of national security concern"

most frequency some complete bullshit is associated? :shrug:

i say throw em out there and let the good times roll.

[90-percent]

2. Possible motive

The German government was planning the JFK assassination back in 1945.

Thus this will never see the light of day.

-jim

:sarcasm:

[RainDog]

3. Gehlen org and Operation Paperclip would link this to the U.S. as well

but, yes, it would be interesting to see who was helping Nazis get out of Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Gehlen

Gehlen worked for West German intel and also for the U.S.

He was on Hitler's staff in 1935 and was a loyal high-ranking Nazi for nearly a decade, until it was obvious that the Nazis were going to lose. At that point, he and some other scumbags copied files and buried them so that they could trade the information for their lives - lives spend murdering Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies, the mentally retarded...lives spent performing cruel experiments on children and women...

and he bought he way out of his crimes by claiming a boogey man was behind every corner. What was that saying from the Nazis about fear? About making people fear something as a way to bend them to your will?

The Gehlen Organization had a disappointing record in supplying valuable intelligence on the Warsaw Pact. According to a Guardian article reviewing declassified CIA documents on the Organization, "for all the moral compromises involved , it was a complete failure in intelligence terms. The Nazis were terrible spies."<5> The CIA worked closely with the Gehlen group: the Gehlen Organization supplied the manpower while the CIA supplied the material needs of the clandestine operations, such as money and airplanes.

I'm sure the U.S. intel orgs want to see those records released too.

[blm]

7. US intel loyal to BushInc wouldn't want files revealed since BushInc worked with Nazis before,

during and for decades after WW2.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

8. +1

[glitch]

10. Just a little favor for some friends.

Friends who happen to still be very active "politically".

[sce56]

13. BINGO!

[Gaedel]

11. In fairness

He was on Hitler's staff in 1935


He was a career military officer in the army general staff



and was a loyal high-ranking Nazi for nearly a decade, until it was obvious that the Nazis were going to lose


He participated in the attempt on Hitler's life in 1944, but in such a peripheral role that he escaped detection and punishment by the Nazis



At that point, he and some other scumbags copied files and buried them so that they could trade the information for their lives - lives spend murdering Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies, the mentally retarded...lives spent performing cruel experiments on children and women...


While the Gehlen organization did recruit ex-Nazis, many of whom may have been guilty of war crimes, Gehlen was pretty much an intelligence officer tracking the Soviet Army. I have not seen evidence linking Gehlen to specific atrocities or to the Nazi death camps.

[RainDog]

12. he was head of military intel on the eastern front

he worked for and supported goals that included genocide. I don't draw too fine of a line between the prison guard who actually shot someone and the party that created the wherewithal to do so.

in fact, I hold those in positions of power and influence to a stronger standard because they created the situation and benefited by it most of all.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm

Some American intelligence officials could not or did not want to see how many German intelligence officials, SS officers, police, or non-German collaborators with the Nazis were compromised or incriminated by their past service… Hindsight allows us to see that American use of actual or alleged war criminals was a blunder in several respects…there was no compelling reason to begin the postwar era with the assistance of some of those associated with the worst crimes of the war. Lack of sufficient attention to history-and, on a personal level, to character and morality-established a bad precedent, especially for new intelligence agencies. It also brought into intelligence organizations men and women previously incapable of distinguishing between their political/ideological beliefs and reality. As a result, such individuals could not and did not deliver good intelligence. Finally, because their new, professed 'democratic convictions' were at best insecure and their pasts could be used against them (some could be blackmailed), these recruits represented a potential security problem."

Considering the false front operations that took place in Europe during Gehlen's time, I would really, really like to see some fresh air for those files.

[BlueIris]

4. Eichmann lived until 1960?

You learn something new everyday.

[FarCenter]

5. Keeping files is so old-fashioned

All files should be kept digitally in encrypted form. After X years, erase the encryption keys. Problem solved.

[lunatica]

6. What is it with all these nothing to see here lets look to the future?

I knew things were really fucked up in our recent history (the last 100 years specifically) but all the Intelligence Agency's trying to keep everything a fucking secret really bothers me. It makes me think things have been far worse than we imagine.

[blm]

9. You don't hear the Tea Patiers demanding their RIGHT to Open Government that is accountable to

the citizenry or demanding their FREEDOM to KNOW what their government has done in their name, do you?

They are the most irresponsible and lazyminded protestors this nation has ever had.