Look out - Daylight Savings is up on us again.

[RC]

We go back to the correct time November 7.

I had to google it to find out. And not even google had anything on its Home page about DST, or what is really Night Darkness Losing Time. It' PI Day to them

There are still only 24 hours in a day, so where does any saving come from? It doesn't save anything, not even energy.
http://toomucheffort.com/index.html?user=talam;page=130


It's like cutting a foot off one end of a blanket and sewing it on the other end to make it longer.
Leave the time alone.
And no, the sun does not come up and set later. That is because YOU reset your clock to the next time zone to the east.

[tularetom]

1. For some reason it hasn't yet made it to DU

according to the time on the posts, it's now 9:25 PDT.

[frebrd]

2. By mid-Summer......

it won't get dark until about 10PM here in western WA State.

For a night person like me, that is depressing as hell!

:grr:

[PeaceNikki]

3. Daylight Saving, not SavingS.

x(

[tonysam]

4. I LOVE it, always have, always will.

I like having the extra hour of daylight. Winter absolutely stinks because of the short days.

[misanthrope]

6. You're not getting an "extra" hour of daylight...

...the days would be the same length regardless of how you set the clock.

[dionysus]

22. no shit sherlock. many people like it to stay light out later durng the summer.

[Naturalist111]

26. Yep that is our society

Others dictating to some what and how they must live.

[neverforget]

28. We've been doing this a long time and it's up to the States whether they

observe DST or not. The History of Daylight Savings Time

[Bill McBlueState]

46. well, by that reasoning,

the entire *notion* of standard time is "others dictating to some ... how they must live"

But actually, you're free to set your clock to whatever time you want. Just make the right correction whenever you try to show up at work or catch a TV show.

[Naturalist111]

66. I motion your notion

pick a time and stick to it!

[frylock]

36. we are gaining an hour of USABLE sunlight..

the sun being up at 6 in the AM doesn't mean jack to me, since i'm usually getting ready for work, or asleep at that time. now that we've moved the clocks forward i can actually get a ride in after work.

[misanthrope]

37. You just explained why it doesn't save energy**nm

**

[dionysus]

38. who gives a shit? ppl like to be able to do things outside when they get out of work in the summer.

this is a problem to you? jesus h christ, misanthrope is right.

:rofl:

[misanthrope]

50. Yet you're the only one using expletives...

...and following another poster around the thread.

[frylock]

42. oh i never bought into the energy savings BS..

i'm just sayin that i'm not a farmer, nor do i have any DESIRE to be up at the crack, so the extra hour of daylight in the evening when i get home from prison will be most welcome.

[ThomThom]

58. He is getting and extra hour of daylight after he gets home from work

to sit on the deck or in a garden, do yard work or just enjoy the outdoors. He pays for it in the morning when it is still dark when he goes to work. Why all this stupid stuff?

[Egalitariat]

7. Me too. A couple of days to adjust, but the summer is better because of it***

nm

[trotsky]

18. Yup, same here.

So nice to have that daylight last til 9pm or later around the solstice.

[Alexander]

23. Arizona and most of Indiana don't have it.

One thing Arizona managed to get right.

[Zomby Woof]

44. Indiana now observes it

Several years ago they decided to uniformly adopt it.

Hawaii and Arizona are the only 2 states which do not, except on the Navajo Reservation in AZ.

[Ex Lurker]

49. same here

It's still bright sunshine at nearly 7 PM right now. Love it.

[etherealtruth]

5. Leave the time alone

"It's like cutting a foot off one end of a blanket and sewing it on the other end to make it longer"

I despise "time" changes ....pick a time, any time ....and let's stick with it!

[left coaster]

9. Absolutely.. it's ridiculous to screw with people's sleep cycles like this!

I'm going to be overly tired for the next two weeks, until my body clock adjusts.. and, for WHAT?

[NeedleCast]

53. A one hour change on a weekend "screws with your sleep cycle"?

I'd hate to see you have to fly across the country. A three hour time zone change must be absolutely crippling for you.

[tridim]

8. I like the spring DLS, it makes the day feel so much longer.

And as I age, any perceived time compression is a good thing.

[left coaster]

10. Me? I rather like long evenings.. because the night belongs to lovers.. and poets.. etc nt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

11. That's right!

I'm feeling the same way...

:hi:

[left coaster]

52. Right on, Peggy! :) nt

[Desertrose]

12. Heee...not in AZ!

:)

We just have to deal with everyone ELSE being on DST.

[etherealtruth]

15. You, you .... gloater

[misanthrope]

13. Daylight Saving Time is manipulation from corporate America...

...Farmers hate it. Studies show it doesn't save electricity.

The chief forces who lobbied for extension of DST a couple of years ago were retailers and the petroleum industry. It seems that DST causes people to go shopping, go to ballgames and other activities that result in burned gasoline for transportation.

[Odin2005]

17. +1

[tritsofme]

20. Those seem like good reasons for DST.

I like to go to ballgames and other activities.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[misanthrope]

34. The why the dishonesty about the reasons for it?...

...Why perpetuate the mythology?

Personally, I think our culture is far too consumerist as is and don't like the attempts to make us more so.

[Alexander]

24. It's a corporatist DLC conspiracy!!!1!!!

Rahm told me so!

[Electric Monk]

31. It was Duhbya, but close enough

http://news.cnet.com/Daylight-saving-change-could-confuse-gadgets/2100-1041_3-5823792.html

[Alexander]

32. DST was around long before he was even born.

[Electric Monk]

33. Fail. The post you replied to was talking about the extension of DST. nt

[Alexander]

40. You fail. The post I responded to criticized DST as a whole.

"Daylight Saving Time is manipulation from corporate America..."

"It seems that DST causes people to go shopping, go to ballgames and other activities that result in burned gasoline for transportation."

Misanthrope criticized the extension as well as the original DST.



Nice try though.

[dionysus]

41. !

:spray:

[misanthrope]

51. While DST was first implemented before contemporary times...

...its status hasn't been constant.

It was first implemented in 1918 then repealed the next year. It wouldn't emerge again until FDR enacted it for three years during WWII as an energy-saving measure at at time when the American lifestyle was far less energy-intensive than it is now. It disappeared again for two decades until Congress approved a uniform DST for the nation in 1966, though a couple of states opted out of the shift. In the '80s, capitalist icon Ronald Reagan moved the DST start date to early April. Then in the last few years, we have enacted three more weeks of it.

Yet, all throughout this on again-off again history, no one has ever come forward to be open with the public about the motivations behind DST. It might not be as nefarious as doctored evidence of WMDs but duplicity always leaves a gamey trail.

It's not merely as innocuous as "just a nice thing to have." Its current manifestation, to which I referred, is most certainly a deliberate attempt by market forces to manipulate behavior in ways that are actually ecologically detrimental.

Check out Michael Downing's book Spring Forward: The Annual Madness of Daylight Saving Time. Downing admits he loves the "extra" daylight as well but thought people had a right to know the reality behind the time change.

[NeedleCast]

54. I like DST

I don't really care if it saves electricity or not. I like long summer nights.

[RC]

60. Actually it is short Summer night.

Most of us have day jobs.

[NeedleCast]

65. I have a day job

Which is why I like DSL. Now I can go home on work days and have plenty of time to get the grill ready to make some burgers or chicken over charcoal. Not that I stop doing that in the winter, but it's nice to have enough light out to do it without needing my outdoor lights on.

Now I get home from work and can enjoy an evening outside. Warm weather helps too, but it's nice for me to have the extra light.

[HeresyLives]

14. I fear for the future of America when I see threads like this.

:eyes:

[RC]

19. I do also because the sheeple just go along with with being told DST is somehow a good thing.

There is something to be said about the time zones being tied to sun time. Not this constant shifting around. And another thing, I remember being told that the new longer time change was just an experiment and Congress was supposed to revisit it. Now they aren't even telling us when it starts.
The only reason I even know about Darkness losing Time starting today is because some knob at the local fish wrap screwed up and had a captioned picture about the time change in another story, unrelated to any time change.

[HeresyLives]

21. It IS a good thing.

We should be on it all the time.

[misanthrope]

35. Thanks Pres. Nixon...

...Tricky Dick tried that once and it didn't work out so well.

[Alexander]

25. Of all the things to flame about, DUers pick Daylight Savings.

Wow.

[tallahasseedem]

39. I actually thought this was a joke at first...

some people will literally bitch about everything and anything. I bet they're wonderful to be around.

[tammywammy]

45. +1 n/t

[Bill McBlueState]

47. I like it when I come to a discussion board

and find things being discussed.

[RC]

61. Especially my threads

:evilgrin:

[dionysus]

48. can you imagine having dinner with these people? it'll be worse than waterboarding...

[Odin2005]

16. DST is fucking stupid.

Keep noon at when the sun is at the highest in the sky, like it's supposed to, with adjustments for time zones.

And with somebody like me who needs strict routine to keep my anxiety down and keep from having an autistic meltdown DST changes are HELL.

[beyurslf]

27. Ilike day light savings. I wish we kept that time all year really.

[RC]

62. They tried that.

Too many kids got hurt and/or died, literally.

[stevedeshazer]

29. Daylight Saving Time sucks. If you want a longer day, just get up earlier.

Jeez.

You're not saving anything, just moving the clock.

I agree, but get it right, it's not daylight "savings" time.

[fishwax]

30. I wish we'd just fall back every fall, and skip the springing forward

I like the extra hour of sleep (or whatever). ;)

[Zomby Woof]

43. It's Daylight Saving Time

No plural. Saving.

[myrna minx]

55. I just *knew* this thread was going to me amazing.

It didn't disappoint. :D

[ozone_man]

56. Most enjoy having more evening light than morning light.

It's nice to be able to leave work in the day light, and work outside or exercise in the daylight. DST is favored by most people. I like that they finally fixed the asymmetry that existed for many years. Now it's symmetrical about the winter solstice.

[CTyankee]

59. I'm unhappier with early morning darkness. I don't care about the evening as much because I

am not an night owl, I'm a lark. I hate getting up and feeling like it's in the middle of the night. However, that said, I AM retired, so it doesn't always mean that much...I tend to sleep as late as I can if I need it...and I do.

[ozone_man]

63. In that case, the sundial may be appropriate

It's usually the job, school, and other social activities that are clock driven, so it's nice to have some light after work/school to do those things. True, if you're an early riser, than it may not be well received. I'd prefer the sun to not get up too much before me and I usually get up around 7am. :)

[CTyankee]

64. I also have stopped driving at night because my eyesight has gotten worse

over the past year (just as my ophalmologist predicted). So I'm a little restricted at night unless someone else can drive me...

[Grand Taurean]

69. I agree.

Keep DST!

[City Lights]

57. I think it's stupid.

My eldest had to stand in the dark again this morning while waiting for the school bus.

Having to change all the clocks twice a year is ridiculous.

I despise DST. :thumbsdown:

[Ikonoklast]

67. I keep Railroad Time.

The rest of you can have that gubbamint mandated stuff.


When it's thirteen o'clock, it's thirteen o'clock, dammit.

[iris27]

68. No one is under the delusion that the sun is actually setting later, but everyone

changing their clocks together means it's actually light outside when I am allowed to clock out from my in-the-basement, no-windows job. I can't go in any earlier (and thus leave earlier) than I already do, or believe me, I would try it during those winter months where the only sunlight I see all day are the 20 minutes of my morning commute. I jump for joy when DST rolls around every spring, and mope when it ends each fall.