This Modern World: If we can't get single-payer... We'll settle for the public option.

[kpete]

Monday, Mar 15, 2010 17:20 EDT
If we can't get single-payer...

We'll settle for the public option. Um, Mr. President, didn't you support that in your campaign?

By Tom Tomorrow
http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comics/this_modern_world/2010/03/15/this_modern_world

[FSogol]

1. K & R. n/t

[Webster Green]

2. Nails it once again.

Tom Tomorrow is a cartoon genius.

[xchrom]

3. Recommend

[joeybee12]

4. KNR...so accurate it hurts! n/t

[Mari333]

5. yowzers!!! knr

[Romulox]

6. I'm still stunned that the President doesn't seem to know about persistent video on the web...

Did he think that he wouldn't be called out on this lie? :wtf:

[Fumesucker]

8. I'm glad you and I can find something to agree on..

:hi:

[rudy23]

14. They're governing like it's 1994. Remember, the DLC is in charge.

They're not the brightest bunch, just the most sociopathic.

[Mithreal]

29. I have said the same when I called the White House.

Was even met with a surprised tone, that yes indeed, that was a very good point. Like millions of others weren't thinking the same.

[Ignis]

30. Wouldn't it be great to have a media that asked that very question?

But hey, who am I kidding?

[awoke_in_2003]

48. politicians don't care...

the media won't call any of them on anything, and who the hell are you, anyway? :(

[tavalon]

55. Well, now, that depends on what the definition of "is" is

Deja fucking vu.

[Kali]

7. sigh

[Fumesucker]

9. If we had any sense we'd fold right *now*..

Heh, heh..

:crazy:

[kenny blankenship]

18. Well by now they've bid the stakes up to infinity

so people who know better are being coerced to vote or cheer for something they know is bad, because if they don't pass the bill "ZOMG, it'll look like Democrats are irresponsible children who can't govern!" And then all the Democrats worry about getting voted out short term. And so then they'll pass a bill which is a longterm nightmare, which is a gift to the criminals in the insurance rackets, and which is pretty much the opposite of what they ran on and were asked to do by the people.

It's hostage taking, in other words.

[gratuitous]

10. "His strategy will only be apparent in retrospect"

"And perhaps not even then."

I believe Mr. Tomorrow speaks for me in that panel.

[kenny blankenship]

20. His strategy is "Pass the insurance industry giveaway, or I will take you all down with me!"

It's not easy to get people to swallow poison, but he's succeeding at it. So, while it may look chaotic, his strategy is effective.

(Of course suicide strategies can work up until the point when the hostages decide to rise up and take over the plane)

[gratuitous]

21. At this point, I'm looking to make lemonade out of these lemons

The second this thing is signed into law and before the ink has dried on President Obama's signature, I'm planning to agitate for all those "fixes" we've been promised, and I will let my Representative and Senators know that the work on this has just begun.

[kenny blankenship]

22. Bon chance!

sincerely wish you luck and all the best.

[Ignis]

39. Of course, at that time, we'll be told:

"Get over it."
"Move on."
"We have other pressing items on the agenda."
"Why aren't you satisfied with what you got?"
"Give it a chance to work."
"Are you smarter than the Grand Chessmaster?"
"Why don't you care about (insert cause du jour)?"

Etc., etc., etc., ad nauseam.

[gratuitous]

40. I fully expect that

Particularly the "give it a chance to work" which being translated means, "never." Because we'll never get to a definitive point at which all those good men and true will admit that they passed some half-assed half-measure, and that the legislation was the bestest ever produced by their august body. Not unlike a turd after a heavy meal.

But I'm still gonna agitate.

[Ignis]

42. Given the fact that it's fait accompli at this point...

I agree with your approach.

But I like to cling to the illusion of choice now and then. :shrug:

[Echo In Light]

11. k/r

[Mira]

12. Laughing til the tears come down my cheeks N/T

[eridani]

64. I'm puking and shitting to the point where I needed an afternoon on an IV drip

Oh, wait--I think that was the flu. The two situatiions sure do feel similar, though.

[robinblue]

13. tragically its true

[bvar22]

15. So true.

Brand OBAMA/Hope&Change was a very successful Corporate Marketing SCAM.
Nothing more.

[Mithreal]

36. Don't forget, award winning too.

In selecting Obama as the best marketer of the year, marketing experts have chosen well. Not only did Obama establish himself as the leading "brand" in the US electoral process, he quickly became an iconic label all over the world with his slogan of "change we can believe in." The central component of the marketing campaign's success was the implicit argument that the candidate's skin color would mean that, once in office, Obama would carry out a radically different agenda than the Bush administration. Since the election, Obama has done much to disabuse people of this notion, selecting a right-wing cabinet committed to the war in Iraq and austerity at home.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/dec2008/obad-d06.shtml

[surrealAmerican]

16. k & r.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. Tom nails it again!

And Obama needs to consider the truths of this cartoon. Tom is smarter than all his Beltway advisers. And funnier. Almost not lying. Perfect.

[librechik]

19. ouch

[HughBeaumont]

23. The "more plausible explanation" = Corporate America runs this country.

NOW and FOREVER.

Everything is done to please them and them ONLY. It only acts like help.

If a Republican were in office, things would be far, FAR worse. So in America, we have a choice of jumping from a building, hoping we'll survive . . . and jumping from a building into a lake of fire while being shot by snipers and arrows on the way down. AWEsome menu.

[freddie mertz]

24. K & R. Tom Tomorrow nails it on the head--AGAIN!

I am posting it on my office door.

[avaistheone1]

41. And THIS is going out to my email list now.

[branders seine]

25. my support-o-meter is pegging

(at one end of the scale)

[Individualist]

26. Perfect!

[frylock]

27. knr

this guy has a way of cutting through the bullshit.

[rhett o rick]

28. Looks like financial reform is going down the same road. nm

[WillyT]

31. Yep... Just LOVE That Multi-Dimensional Chess !!! - K & R !!!

:evilfrown:

:banghead:

:wtf:

[SlingBlade]

32. Hypocrisy ! It's a helluva lot easier than Principles

And when its all over you can blame it on the Progressives.

[Name removed]

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[emsimon33]

34. Makes me mad all over again that I supported Obama

I'm not sure that H R Clinton would have been better, but Obama is sure a lying loser.

[awoke_in_2003]

49. Don't be mad...

it wouldn't have made a difference. Be sad that, indeed, all politicians are the same.

[kenfrequed]

70. Feh

Why do you think the mainstream media pretended that Hillary and Obama were the only "viable candidates."

[Edweird]

35. LOL. K&R

[icee]

37. That was great!

[icee]

38. That was great!

[whatchamacallit]

43. Crazy how it's the satirists (Jon Stewart, Tom Tomorrow...) who really know the score... (nt)

[Mithreal]

46. +1 Yes, indeed.

[Skittles]

51. crazy how a cartoon penguin knows more than a lot of DUers

there are DUers who STILL think that piece of shit HCR bill is somehow a good thing - it's MIND BOGGLING

[Jakes Progress]

44. "Technically, I'm almost not lying!"

K&R. Just fucking K&R

[Matariki]

45. Oh that last panal! I wish it weren't so funny...

[awoke_in_2003]

47. K&R, sadly...

but like someone here said the other day, it is chess in one way- you sacrifice the pawns to protect the royalty

[Skittles]

50. TOM TOMORROW NAILS IT

ABSOLUTELY

[mikita]

52. BIG K & R n/t

[begin_within]

53. "We have an agreement with the White House..."

That's the problem in a nutshell right there. The President is elected by the people, paid by the people and should only be making agreements with the people... not with lobbyists. That's the key problem with this process, and everything else said about this process is background noise designed to obfuscate the key problem.

[tavalon]

54. Tom Tomorrow must read DU

or Kos, because he is so spot on.

[merkins]

56. The Truth Told Succinctly In A Comic. Brilliant!

K&R!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

57. excellent. cartoon worth a 1000 words.

and recommended.

[defendandprotect]

58. Love it . . .thank you . . . Should help in getting heads screwed on right ...eh, left . . .!!

:)

[ihavenobias]

59. Big K & R. n/t

[Name removed]

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[John Q. Citizen]

61. And perhaps not even then... so true!

[d_b]

62. And perhaps not even then!

:rofl:

[Dinger]

63. Kick & Rec # 214 From Me

:)

[DisgustedInMN]

65. "Technically, I'm almost not lying."

That, pretty much sums up Barack Obama.

[MannyGoldstein]

66. Excellent, But Inaccurate

Obama did specifically use the words "public option" in campaign speecehes and a TV ad. And he not only mentioned it, but he said that the bill he signs has to have it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x210659

So he's not "technically not lying". It's full frontal.

[lwcon]

67. No, I won't settle for "public option"

Nor for Tom's completely illogical argument.

http://www.correntewire.com/which_i_call_bullshit_tom_tomorrow

[FourScore]

68. Love it! Thanks kpete!

K&R

[Deep13]

69. I care what cartoon penguins think. nt

[Mercuryman]

71. Too true

K&R

[WillyT]

72. Kick !!!

:kick: