"Demons have invated the Capitol"

[WillieW]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/16/texas-republican-goehmert_n_500805.html

[NJmaverick]

1. and now a word from one of their spokesmen- Mitch McConnell

[Sanity Claws]

2. Invaded

not invated.
I'm not a spelling Nazi -- the word didn't make sense. I was wondering whether it was a typo for invited.

[marmar]

3. I don't know about demons, but insane right-wing freaks certainly have.

nt

[FSogol]

4. Same thing. n/t

[RandomThoughts]

5. That happened long ago, But it is good he is starting to realize that?

Years of corruption, and money with amoral attitudes setting policy, taking money instead of helping people, starting and paying for wars instead of helping people. Not turning the other cheek. Deception and mean spirited campaigns. claims of righteousness while demonizing other people.

Remember those dishonest campaigns, the smears and the meanness. Remember the money deciding, not trying to do what is right. Sure Democrats have sin, everyone does, but demonizing them? Is that really the path you want to go down?

Would you throw the first stone after looking at the drawings in the sand? I wouldn't so maybe trying to bless those that curse you, love those that hate you, and trying to be nicer, even in hardship, is a better path. Although I know I fail at that also sometimes.

Everyone has sin, but some are trying to help people. If there is dishonesty that would be wrong, but if the bill helps people, then it fulfills part of our obligations to try and help those in need.



And to my friends that think on terms of eye for eye, tooth for tooth, that was meant to limit retaliation. Before that is was if someone hurt someone you liked, you would wipe out his village. eye for eye was to add justice and limit violence.

And for those that do not like democracy, If you read back in the texts, while the laws decided the trial, it was the people all the people in a village that was given by God the right to punish or hold people to account. It was not an executioner but back before prisons, and more humane better ways of prevention of people getting hurt, back then, the punishment was stoning, I believe that was so that the whole town had to agree before someone was hurt. Democracy, rule by the many, I also believe that is because most people are good, and it helps prevent innocent people being hurt in a non perfect world.

[sui generis]

7. No it's not. I'm proud of my demonic heritage AND

I'm a flaming luciferian liberal brain eating pinko commie fag. Those conservative hard-haired drop chin loose nostril nuclear lip hunch butt bug-eating man-bitches give demons a bad name.

They're just another variation of ugly-to-the-bone humans is all.

[RandomThoughts]

10. Your choice of what you follow is yours.

Note that in the beginning many chose to serve man, others refused, and were separated from God and can only see the world and people as ugly, they know no love, so I believe your statement as it relates to you, but also know you have no hold, nor claim to speak for others, nor power to spread such thoughts that only lead to lack of love and empathy for others.

Everyone has moments of lesser thought, even my comment while pointing out hypocricy, pointed out some lesser behavior. So I do not think you are all bad, even as you state, but believe their is a warm heart in you trying to win back its place in your life, God Bless whatever good is also in you, and that is available to you, that can win over what you state.

Many liberals and many conservatives have different views then you state. And I know some might think as you do, but they do not speak for most people. And people are given free will to choose how they want to think.

If I may share my feelings to you, may I say that I hope you find peace in life, and be free from anger and hate, may you find a place of joy and not bitterness.

May God Bless you with his grace.

[sui generis]

13. pardon me, but what the fuck are you talking about?

Do you even know what a luciferian is? Lack of love and empathy? How on earth did you arrive at all of that?

I truly have nothing to do with god or the devil, or goodness or evil or anger or hate, any more than the warm summer rain or the morning dew does. If you want a comfortable mouthful of a label, I am a spiritual secular humanist with gaia-ist leanings. I do not live in "bitterness" - that's your rationalization for people who live without YOUR anthropomorphic god. In fact, because I believe this is everything right here, right now, I value sentience far more than simple life, and simple life far more than an idea of souls; that is a kind of peace that says live now, completely, and don't wait for any afterlife to tell you to be good and to do good.

I am not different from god, whatever you believe that to be - god was made in our image and would have a very very long neck if I were a giraffe.

[RandomThoughts]

14. I understand you believe you believe that. But your first post contradicts your second post.

If you do not believe in things like demons, why did you say they were part of your heritage? I was only posting against the words you spoke. Even if they were not the words that you said in your second post.

Consider the possibility that you may not know all that is part of why or the reason people might say things. Also my reply to your first post might not have been to you.

I respect many people that have other beliefs, and know many people are happy in other beliefs.

And it is quiet possible that you do much kindness and feel much love for many people, and I again repeat that I hope those parts of you shine running out any anger or bitterness you might have, and all of us have some good and some bad moments in my belief, so it is not meant as an insult or condemnation, although people see some of that differently.

I also believe that chasing an afterlife is not the meaning of my beliefs, it is a side effect of choices, nor do I claim to know all the mysteries of God, so can only speak what I believe.

Again I wish you the best, and I understand people believe differently, and if you chose to, accept that I do not want to hurt your feelings but only offer kindness from my perspective of existence. It is the only kindness I can offer, please take it in that spirit, that I do not want your first post to be true for you.

I hope again for your happiness, and if you can accept my form of kindness thank you.


I personally have seen many things that are supernatural, so it is hard for me to understand your point of view, but I can understand you think you believe it, and hope for the best for you.

Again if you can accept it as what I consider being friendly and what in my view is a sentiment of caring for you, may God Bless you with grace.



Was your reference to being long neck a reference to stiff neck?

Are you aware that matches something Biblical and also something that is from the exact same chapter of the Bible as the post I made a few minutes ago? Something may be speaking through you, it happens far more then people realize.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=114&topic_id=76891&mesg_id=76893

I posted Exodus 32: 7 32: 8


Your comment could be explained by Exodus 32: 9

9And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff necked people.

You may have been saying you are one of those stiff necked people. Something to think about. Note also I do not believe you have the ability to claim what God is, especially after saying you don't believe in God. So I disagree that he would be like you, although that claim was made in the begining also by the name sake of your belief.

[sui generis]

15. I'd like to quote a broadway torch piece here

I am what I am, and what I am needs no excuses . . .

no I don't really believe in "demons" or "angels" - that was hyperbole my friend. I suppose to some my antithetical philosophy of disagreeing with the "creator" on what authority should be, god or myself, I would be like a fallen angel, or a devil, but the only thing that counts is what you do with your choices, not who you disagree with. "pride" is a sin practiced by both demons AND angels in that war.

The only thing I really care about is being irrationally fair, regardless of one's philosophy or belief. That would be a nod to the Golden Rule, by whatever conveyance or personal construct one manages to get there.

I do however believe in giraffes. . . . :P

And how would you know any more than any giraffe what "god" is? Scripture certainly is a thing originally scripted for illiterate goat herders, and there has been a good deal of scripting since goat herders found themselves in need of a moral code. The bible and "scripture" is just one of many philosophies, albeit with considerably more contradictions and inconsistencies than most.

Of all people, I certainly do not require interpretation from seers and priests, and most certainly not when one confuses "stiff" with "long", however vaguely exciting both prospects sound.

Be good. Do good. It's not that hard, regardless of one's chosen filter for reality.

-sui

[RandomThoughts]

16. I enjoy the idea of the golden rule also

I just noticed your phrasing seems to indicate you want to say I am a seer or priest. My understanding of your phrasing seems to indicate that thought in your comment. I have not made either of those claims.


And I agree belief is faith, which requires belief not absolute knowledge.

I also appreciate how nice your reply is. :)

I also agree interpretation creates many of the thoughts and beliefs from many groups. I try not to rely on interpretations from others, if they make sense based on my view, after thinking on them, then ya, but because they make sense, not because some person says something.

[Sebastian Doyle]

6. Damn, those demons get around, don't they?

Weren't they at the Vatican just the other day? :evilgrin:

[DJ13]

8. Those bloody Smurfs!

[Bitwit1234]

9. The sure did we knew that when bush stole two elections

and brought the gosh awful demons aka republicans still in congress.

[derby378]

11. Demon Attack TOUGH!

:rofl:

[agent46]

12. Someone is playing

Someone (or a group of someones) is out to play the tea party people for everything they've got.. I have to ask myself what faction does Gohmert speak for and what do they stand to gain by framing the struggle for power in Washington as a literal battleground of a war in heaven? This kind of talk can influence a certain mindset inclined to apocalyptic hopes and fears. I've noticed the tea party movement is being manipulated and inflamed from a number of places lately. Maybe there's a political set up underway. I wonder what the trigger point might be.

[hobbit709]

17. Juanita's take on Gohmert

Gohmert, who is about three-fourths of a half wit, didn’t stop at that.

http://juanitajean.com/2010/03/16/the-cheese-fell-off-his-cracker/