At the end of the day or end of the week, we still won't have a public option

[Javaman]

(this is in reference to the NYTimes article concerning Obama made a deal to kill the PO. Link via the HuffPost: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/ny-times-reporter-confirm_b_500999.html)

So to all those who wish not to believe this story, fine, it supports your position, how?

We still won't have a public option.

I have written time and time again here on DU that the fix has always been in. We have been lead around by the nose as the chorus for the Greek tragedy that this health care bill has become.

First they say the PO is in, then they say it is out and with each pronouncement, there will be the chorus of "it's back in!!!" followed by the chorus of "it's dropped!!!".

If it just wasn't so damn depressing watching us all knee jerk react to this orchestrated charade, it would be down right amusing.

So just remember, as much as we all have been cheerleaders for the public option we all have been played for the fools that we really hope we are not. To that extent, so have the ball licking tea baggers.

We are just the pawns folks, they don't give a flying fuck about us.

It's the corporations that stand to make a buck from all of this. We, in the end (where we always seem to get it), will get nothing but a nice wall paper job over bullshit.

So scream and yell back and forth over who is right and who is wrong, all it does is prove my point that we are being played like harps and are so willfully ignorant of it all.

[ShortnFiery]

1. Kabuki Theater to give us "chattering classes" something to hope for with NO DELIVERY.

If they truly wanted (Democratic Leaders included) for us to have a Public Option, they would have introduced "Single Payer" at the initial negotiations.

It's all a game to those who never have to worry about making the rent money. :(

[Echo In Light]

2. Bingo

[Lerkfish]

3. I agree about this bill, but doesn't Graysons' bill circumvent that?

the HCR bill is going to pass in all its fugly glory... that much is clear.

I think we need to get behind Grayson's bill to counteract this bad one.

[daleanime]

4. Step #1-Identify problem....

Step #2-???





Please note that I'm not disagreeing with you, it's easy to see the MSM spinning things the best it can and that small slice of the nation called 'tea-bagger' was definitely over played. The question has to be how to deal with it.

[Javaman]

10. Upon reflection...

step #2 would be to stop feeding into the echo chamber of stupidity.

Stop reacting. They depend on that. That's what fuels the bullshit stream.

#3 don't support any of them. Period. Not the bad ones, not the good ones. Stop. Once they realize we don't buy their bullshit anymore, then and only then they will listen to us, for the first time, out of fear. Fear for their political lives.

They can spout on all day and all night, spewing one lie after another all because they believe we eat their shit up.

But once we stop. They will panic.

But alas, that would require all people to suddenly stop being cheerleaders of bullshit.

That, my friend, will never happen. People in this country still believe that there is hope in "electing" someone that will listen to them. And as such, still willfully carry the that torch because we all believe that any hope of the people having a "voice" to change things, has vanished.

Look at the tea party morons, they march and protest, but for whom? Not for themselves. They are too brainwashed to see they are just water carriers.

Until we as a people stand up for ourselves and stop relying on some corporate bought representative to be our "voice", nothing will change.

That would be the ultimate grass roots movement. But sadly, like all good humble movements, they are usually usurped by the most opportunist of politicians who then change the groups message to fit their own. Thus taking away the peoples voice.

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[ipaint]

6. Giving people the illusion of being informed and involved is central

to covering up the one truth- the government is owned by a few corporations that control 99.9% of everything we watch, hear, read and vote for.
Should anyone point out it's all a hoax, a farce, fiction, they are marginalized and essentially forgotten about or destroyed.

I keep reading how well informed people here are as opposed to those not politically involved and it's laughable. Apparently well informed is the equivalent of being better at parroting back the talking points of whatever fictional side of the hoax you are on.

[mmonk]

7. It was something to placate the single payer activists and supporters

who were kept out of the discussion long enough to get this Bill passed.

[a kennedy]

8. I know.......

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[KittyWampus]

9. I will be eligible for Medicare.

[Mercuryman]

11. And public option

ain't that hot.

[Javaman]

12. I'v always been a single payer guy...

but that was never going to happen in our center right reality.

And a public option had only a less than slim chance of every becoming a reality.

All kabuki theater.