Stupak dismisses nuns’ letter: I don’t listen to them, I listen to ‘leading bishops’

[cal04]

Stupak dismisses nuns’ letter: I don’t listen to them, I listen to ‘leading bishops’ and Focus on the Family.
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/17/stupak-nuns/

Today, “60 leaders of religious orders representing 59,000 Catholic nuns” sent a letter to federal lawmakers urging them to pass the Senate health care legislation. They decried the “false” information floating around about abortion provisions and said that the bill’s “historic new investments” for pregnant women are the “REAL pro-life stance.” The nuns’ letter was a significant and unusual break with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which continues to denounce the legislation. This afternoon, Stupak dismissed the nuns, saying that he listens to only male religious figures and far-right religious organizations:

Congressman Bart Stupak, D-Mich, responded sharply to White House officials touting a letter representing 59,000nuns that was sent to lawmakers urging them to pass the health care bill.

The conservative Democrat dismissed the action by the White House saying, “When I’m drafting right to life language, I don’t call up the nuns.” He says he instead confers with other groups including “leading bishops, Focus on the Family, and The National Right to Life Committee.”

It’s Stupak and the bishops, however, who are increasingly isolated. The nuns join other prominent pro-life figures and organizations — including the Catholic Health Association — in urging passage of the bill.

[mdmc]

I listen to da nuns!

[blue neen]

1. So Congressman Stupak doesn't respect women's bodies or their opinions.

That's just my humble opinion (although Stupak would probably think I shouldn't have one).

[Bolo Boffin]

2. Translation: Women got nothing to contribute to the abortion debate.

What a fricking bastard.

[Nikki Stone1]

31. It's a mindset, not a single issue.

.

[Bitwit1234]

35. You said it best. He dismisses women as insignificant

that's why he is all riled up about abortion. He thinks they should do what MEN tell them to. I wonder. What in the hell his home life is like. Does his wife knuckle under to him. Does she kiss his butt and jump when he tells her to. What a butt. We see why he is opposed to abortion. Control Control Control.

[FarCenter]

3. Ooooh! -- a big rap on the knuckles with the ruler for that!

[Moochy]

4. Stupak: Nuns aint shit to me!

Paternalistic conservative asshole sides with male authority figures. News at 11.

[housewolf]

5. Notice that it's the men he chooses to listen to and disregards the women

That should tell us something

[vadawg]

6. i guess if hes catholic then its the bishops opinions who count more..

i got no idea what religion the guy is, but the catholic church has a command structure much like a military org..

[pnwmom]

13. Focus on the Family is not a Catholic group. He should be listening to the nuns, who are. n/t

[vadawg]

14. he also said he was listening to the bishops, who are catholic

i guess it all comes down to whether he is a catholic or not...

[pnwmom]

20. No, it doesn't. Obviously, Catholics disagree on the issue. n/t

[MattBaggins]

48. No he very clearly stated he listens to a nutjob

Like Perkins over the advice of Nuns; who are members of his religion.

We know you like to be an apologist for every thing right-wing but you're just being silly here.

[vadawg]

51. you seem to miss the point that perkins has the same opinion as the bishops

who are the same rreligion as you put it as him, and they are the command structure of his church, and yes i did say command structure as the church has a command structure in place..

[Kber]

7. There are times that I think the most thankless job in the world must be

a dedicated nun.

And B.S.'s attitude is utterly frustrating.

[Cerridwen]

8. focus on the family?! Yeah, this guy's not a mole for the snake oil

"religionists." Not at all.

Just check out his voting record; I'm told it's a damned fine Democratic one. <----yeah, that would be sarcasm

[butterfly77]

9. That little bitch...

[David Zephyr]

10. What a tool. The nuns are the only decent thing left in the Catholic Church.

The day the white smoke goes up and a woman becomes Pope, then...and only then will I remotely believe that the institution that gave the Western World 1,000 years of intellectual darkness will should merit any serious "listening" at all.

Stupid Stupak.

[pnwmom]

11. I love that they did this in the midst of their own inquisition.

The Vatican ordered "visitation" of all American nuns for being suspected of deviating from Church policy.

Kudos to them!!!

[Hekate]

32. The Church has lost nuns to independent thinking before this--looks like there may be another exodus

... coming up.

Stupak (apt initials, BS) is a sexist pig, isn't he?

Hekate

[pnwmom]

39. He's truly obnoxious. n/t

[Canuckistanian]

12. Yeah. And don't give me any of these "second string" bishops

I only listen to the BEST bishops.

[UTUSN]

15. By THEIR words ye KNOW'em!1 n/t

[Zoeisright]

16. STFU StupID.

I hate his slimy, repulsive little guts.

[MindandSoul]

17. Didn't I read someplace that even a retired Bishop is openly supporting this bill?

So. .. Stupak might run of Bishops before Saturday anyway! Funny!
No place to hide!!!!!

[NYC_SKP]

21. Yes, a retired Bishop in this post here:

Also by cal04:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7943469

:P

[riderinthestorm]

18. (Snort!) Stupak listens to who pays him the most, and it's certainly not nuns.

He may have "pro-life" values (while standing against health insurance reform that may save actual, real living lives), but most certainly his position is cushioned and paid for by men (who aren't nuns living with female bodies and typically dealing with real life, up close and personal, in a way BISHOPS, FOF leadership, and the NRTL commmittee are not)....

[Brickbat]

19. Why shouldn't he listen to the bishops? The bishops don't listen to the nuns, either.

[Luciferous]

22. Stupak needs his ass kicked.

[RainDog]

23. yeah, HE RUNS WITH THE PEDOPHILES

fucking asshole.

get your pedophile-hiding religion out of the laws of this land.

[Bryn]

24. Ah, I see why Stupak is doing this ....

He wants to help to provide priests, bishops more little boys. x(

[Bolo Boffin]

25. It's a nice scam, isn't it?

Outlaw abortion and any form of contraceptive, get the families big and unmanagable, and then take the pick of the litter for your own perverted lust.

[RainDog]

26. Stupak has a challenger.

you can send money to her campaign if you want to try to get rid of him.

his opposition to health care for women is disgusting. I hope he's out of office b/c of this.

It disgusts me that Stupak has the pedophile women-hater's backs.

[Bolo Boffin]

29. Oh, you better believe she's got my support.

I wish I could move to the district to vote for her.

[DemoTex]

27. Father Knows Best. Bishop Knows Bestest.

Nuns know nothing.

Heavy, bitter :sarcasm:

[RainDog]

30. It's amazing that Stupak is willing to identify with child molestors

as some sort of moral authority.

reminds me of the wide-stance republicans.

here we have the pedophile's for forced birth coalition.

[Jennicut]

28. There is a nunnery down the street from me. They are not Catholic but Russian Orthodox. Too bad.

I want to sic some nuns on his ass.

[Hekate]

33. 5th Rec for being the funniest damn thing I've heard all day....

You shoulda seen Rachel on the subject! :rofl:

Hekate

[upi402]

34. This needs new language to describe it

This guy takes the piss. He makes Goldwater look left of Ho Chi Minh. This is NOT my Democratic Party, it's a charade.

[deminks]

36. So, the nuns didn't get the big payoff from the Chamber of Commerce

Obviously, they could be a populist group. Bishops and centrist dems on the other hand- now they can be molded with big money.

Or, the Bishops and Stupid are just misogynists.

Either way, women lose.

[DFW]

37. Yeah!! Who needs that separation of church and state stuff, anyway?

Republicans get their dialogue from Fox, and this piece of filth gets his lines from Catholic bishops.

I prefer congresspeople like Al Franken and Alan Grayson who are articulate enough to speak what they
think, and not what Fox or a bunch of agenda-ridden clergymen think.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

38. I only listen to those who agree with me

... to the rest of you all: "lalalalalalalalala"

:hi:

[lunatica]

40. Evidently he never went to Catholic schools

[RedRoses323]

46. +1

:toast:

[ck4829]

41. 2 of the groups he mentions are led by geriatric men

Seems a bit weird that he would only confer with them on issues relating to something that goes on inside young women.

"Get out of here, woman, we're talking about YOUR uterus!"

[unhappycamper]

42. Hey fuckwad: Cardinals and Bishops are the ones who keep recycling pedophiles.

Focus on the Family? You really should take a break from politics, dude.

[waiting]

43. Stupak belongs to a cult

It's called "The Family" or "The Fellowship", and they have absolutely no need for women's opinions, only their domestic abilites. They can be members as well, but they are there to support the men. You know, cooking for them, cleaning up after them, and I guess blowing them when they need it. He is an absolute hypocrite and as a member of that group, does not actually follow the teachings of Jesus. Big surprise! Their God is money and power, aka Mammon. And as a democrat, the last group he should be taking advice from is Focus on the Family. These liars only care about the wealthy and their political agenda has always been to dominate women, and usurping the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

[Odin2005]

44. Yes, we all know you are a misogynist fuckwit, Bart.

[Dr.Phool]

45. Fundy misogynist prick.

[waiting]

47. Yeah, he's fundamentally unfit to represent 50% of his constituents

That would be the women in his district. Funny thing is that those "Family" members are not realy fundamentalist at all. Far, far from it. It is a cult.

[lunatica]

49. Somebody should tell him to watch The Blues Brothers

It's a nun who sends them on a Mission From God.

[joeybee12]

50. Of course, nuns are women, bishops are men...in his sick, twisted

mysogonistic mind, they are less than cattle.

[Grand Taurean]

52. So Stupak and the Catholic Bishops must follow Sharia Law.

PIGS!