Right now, not every person or entity in politics I trust and admire is on board with this bill...

[Bicoastal]

...but every person or entity in politics I hate, fear, and loathe is 100% against it, and pushing harder every day. There are a lot of people who absolutely disgust me in the GOP, at Fox News, on AM Radio, leading Tea Party rallies, etc. and not a single one I know of wants this bill to pass.

And at this point, I simply can't believe that they're faking all this rage and angst because they secretly love it, or they think they can exploit it for their own purposes, or so forth. Nor do they want to amend the bill, or start over again, as some progressive opponents want to do.

The Forces of Darkness in this country want Health Care Reform DEAD. It's not just about Obama and Pelosi; make no mistake, they'll never TOUCH this issue if they ever get their goons into Congress and the White House again. And I'm not willing to take a chance and give them time to become even more wealthy and powerful than they already are.

I'm for the bill passing.

[villager]

1. It has become about more than the bill -- the other side wanted it to be a "Waterloo"

... despite all the shittiness in this bill, if there's gonna be a Waterloo, I want it to be theirs...

[WeekendWarrior]

2. DITTO. nt

[Egnever]

3. K&R

[leftstreet]

4. No one on either side actually knows what's in the damn bill

It's all just political theater

[Hello_Kitty]

5. Right now, the person I consider to be the biggest asshole and bully on DU supports the bill.

So what? That has little to do with my objections to it (though it does reinforce my intuition that the mandate is extremely appealing to the secretly authoritarian assholes in our party).

Enough with this Appeal to Authority shit.

[Bicoastal]

6. Well, I could easily say the same thing...

...interesting how the most gung-ho people on either side of an issue are usually the most obnoxious freaks you'd ever want to meet.

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. The fact that they want HCR dead does not mean that this bill IS HCR.

I don't think passing a bad bill just to thwart the republicans is any better than them stopping health care reform just to thwart the Democrats.