GOP Congressman: majority of Republicans on hill say Iraq was MISTAKE

[RainDog]

Two GOP congressmen say most Republicans on the Hill now believe the Iraq war was a mistake, and "more than half the Republican caucus" believes the way in which the US entered the Afghanistan war was also a mistake.

Reps. Tom McClintock (R-CA) and Dana Rohrbacher (R-CA) made the comments at a discussion panel at the Cato Institute on Thursday.

Going into Iraq "was a mistake because I thought we had to finish the job in Afghanistan," Rohrbacher told the panel, echoing a popular Democratic talking point at the time.

"In retrospect, almost all of us think that was a horrible mistake," Rohrbacher said. "Now that we know that it cost a trillion dollars, and all of these years, and all of these lives, and all of this blood … all I can say is everyone I know thinks it was a mistake to go in now.”

http://rawstory.com/2010/03/gop-iraq-war-horrible-mistake/

What they are saying, when you get down to it, is that Republicans ARE NOT FIT TO GOVERN.

Because they PUSHED that war on the U.S. They engineered PROPAGANDA via a complicit media and LIED to the public. They SET UP THE BASIS FOR TORTURE because of these lies.

so the question now is:

who will hold them accountable?

[Zenlitened]

1. " who will hold them accountable?"

Indeed. :(

[RainDog]

3. This was the Republicans' war

(along with some friends, especially Sleazerman (I-asshole)

honestly, unless the democrats want to lose, they'd better make sure this issue is known far and wide.

Right wingers have nothing to bring to the conversation about what and who America is and should be.

Their America is based upon lies, just as their war was based upon lies and just as their idiotic fundie religions are based upon lies.

They belong on the trash heap of history.

[Cosmocat]

12. The COMPLETE and TOTAL repudiation of responsibility ...

1) You were called unamerican and weak if we did not support going into Iraq ...
2) You were called unamerican and "giving the enemy aid" by not supporting it when it started to get bad. YOU CAN'T QUESTION OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF WHILE TROOPS ARE IN THE FIELD, there will be PLENTY of time to deal with things once it ends ...
3) Now, well, it is in the past, it does us no good to go back into history, we have to just move forward ...

[Ozymanithrax]

2. If they really believed that, why the hell aren't they screaming to leave...

They continue to wave the bloody flag and claim we are in it to win it and Obama's softness on terrorism, Iraq, and Afghanistan, his refusal to listen to the generals, is proof he is not fit to be commander and chief.

Screw them. They had their chance to fuck everything up, and they did so with amazing efficiency.

They are hypocrites.

[RainDog]

4. Powell's pottery barn rule

...which is another bit of hubris... assuming that doing illegal shit like this war means they have any demonstrated capacity to "fix" what they broke - which includes this nation.

[Ozymanithrax]

5. In my opinion, the U.S. is declining from its empire.

Economic disasters are inevitable.

The lifestyle we Americans live is due in no small part to the perks of empire. Once those perks are gone, it could be very rough.

No, I don't think the Republicans are good administrators. The labor under some egregious false assumptions not limited to the following:

(1) Government should be run like a business. - False, government is nothing like a business, it needs to be run for the benefit of its citizens.

(2) Small government is better (Not that they ever actually shrunk the government when in charge) - False, a government that is responsive to the needs of its citizens should be allowed to grow or shrink as necessary to do its fucking job.

(3) All government is bad - False, only when Republicans are in charge are they bad.


And don't get me started on Democrats.

[Bert]

13. too true

The US may be declining from empire, which in my opinion is a good thing. However the repubs wont be happy till were in a ditch.

1. The governments purpose is not to make a profit. However, if you are a true believer in trickle down economics you care only about the top 1%, this is despite no evidence to show that those policies work, in fact when there is less of disparity between the wealthy and a middle class our economy has flourished.

2. Small government is not always better, however they are only concerned about small government as it may help those so called lazy people, who are usually a minority, basically a way for them to legislate their inbred prejudice. Also, they have no problem with a huge millitary budget as well as huge police force and more people incarcerated than in any other country, maybe all countries, usually for drug crimes which in my mind is simply using the wrong drugs that dont get advertised during the evening news.

3. They run on the premise that government is bad and then go on to prove it once elected, at least government of by and for corporate personhood.

[RainDog]

16. incompetence

if they showed the same level of incompetence in a real business they would have been fired long ago.

not to mention the theft of billions via contractors, the use of these lies to shit on the constitution...

[Beartracks]

6. What?? GOPers put party before people?? n/t

[hobbit709]

7. So it took them 7 years to figure out what we knew on day 1.

[mwb970]

8. Or before. /nt

[babylonsister]

9. In retrospect? That doesn't work, Rohrbacher. 20/20 hindsight

for your poor decisions does not apply here.

[KharmaTrain]

10. Part Of Their Revisionism

One of the hallmarks of the modern GOOP...the ability to rewrite history and spoonfeed it to the corporate media as if it's gospel. It's what got us the cult of St. Raygun...much of its fabricated (like he "won the Cold War") but it's so ingrained it's now "accepted". Then there's the revision of the entire Iraq fiasco. For example, it was Clinton who either was neglegent (Monica) about the Al Queda threat or he was the one who verified the bogus intel to justify the invasion (depends on the spinner and the spun needed). Part of this new history is that boooshie's term didn't begin until 9/12/01 and "we all were told"...the ultimate fallback. Of course they regret their votes...it cost them majorities in both houses and the White House. Harder to shake down lobbyists when you're a back bencher.

:hi:

[Fumesucker]

11. Jeezus X Keerist on a Segway, I got called a traitor for being against the Iraq war..

And *now* these unspeakable cretins say it was a mistake?

I honestly lack the words to adequately convey how disgusted and enraged I am over this.

[malaise]

14. Which of them had the guts to say that when Bushco

was in charge?

[RainDog]

15. they were cheerleaders of the apocalypse

who have shown repeatedly their world view is too fucked up to believe if you didn't see it.

[spanone]

17. yet cheney is free to dump shit on Obama for his foreign policy....that is criminal