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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:00 AM Original message |
Judith Miller & the "many dark actors" (Plame thread #9) |
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berner59 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. So wish this was televised... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. David Shuster is on now |
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PRETZEL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Hell, everybody and their brother knows Judy has credibility issues, |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. The light may be way to bright and blinding for some when Judith |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. or carrying her bucket of water |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
4. This will be good |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. I, too, cannot wait to see where the questioning goes. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. Previous Plame Threads |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Thanks. It's always informative to review these threads. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
10. the cover she may have provided for dark deeds and whispers from Dick Cheney's office |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. She is one of |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. I agree. She's stunningly unrepentant, obsessively self-righteous, and ... |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Why can't we get Ms. Miller's act on American Idol ? |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
77. I think the Thompson Twins probably characterized that performance well here... |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
12. I expect he will |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Her notebooks |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
15. Miss Girl Run Amok Is A Disgrace As A Journalist & An American |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I think she |
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deminks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I have often wondered if Dr. Kelly's email was less of a warning to |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Hard To Say |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
18. She is pure, self-righteous, evil masquerading as a "journalist." |
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PRETZEL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
19. maybe it's me but I found this little exchange interesting |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. "Is it possible that Fitz is setting the stage for further charges..." |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
70. I WANT IT PROVEN THAT DR KELLY WAS MURDERED AND MILLER WAS |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Seems to me a lot of things are being established |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
21. Wonderful essay, Waterman! I still say Kelly's death is directly connected to Miller. She passed |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Thank you. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
24. A.Q Khan |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. Well, well, well! |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
27. Hello H2O Man! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I've known a lot |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
28. I think 'Mad Dogs's treatise on why a pardon for Libby is out is worth reading ... |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. He could have tattled on Cheney |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:40 PM Original message |
Intriguing Scenario |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
43. That's probably only part of their investment. |
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Babel_17 (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. Interesting but maybe there are pardons .... |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
29. I do admit as I'm reading the firedoglake live blogging, |
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im10ashus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
30. Hi buddy! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Hello! |
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im10ashus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
71. I am enamored. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
74. I love you H2O Man |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
31. Wells going through documents tediously |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. Little Miss Run Amok |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. She gave it |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Egads |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. She Gave It To Herself |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
37. Libby had nothing to do with Miller sitting behind bars. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Technically She Was In Jail Because She Refused To Testify |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. She only stayed in jail long enough for them to concoct |
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Jemmons (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
102. The Aspens??? |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
38. throw her lying, worthless ass back in jail |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. That may yet happen |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
45. Libby Defense Exhibits .... |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. What A Bunch Of Liars |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. There are new |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 02:39 AM Response to Reply #68 |
95. Scooter |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. That was fun reading. A couple of prominent lies: |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. DU mentioned on Hardblogger: |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Very cool, H20 Man! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Yes. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
90. I wish there was a way to review them while reading the live blogs. It |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
49. Oh, dear! |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Not A Fun Day For Her |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Thanks H2O man |
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buzzard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Does that mean the roots are severed?? |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
51. ROFLMAO! Judy didn't even read the NYT |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
52. about Title 18, United States Code, Section 793 |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
75. ESPIONAGE whoah |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
80. Nice Catch |
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And the Oscar goes (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 07:12 AM Response to Reply #80 |
97. Espionage - wait a second... |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
53. Great thread!!! K&R!! |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. nother |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
56. " I don't remember what I remembered then"--Judy Miller |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. Between Iraq and a hard place. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
61. Man, this trial is absolutely fascinating.... |
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La_Fourmi_Rouge (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
62. Schuster on Hardball is on Fire! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Yep. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
65. I'll kick that. - n/t |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
66. The Libby defenestration team is hammering away on every witlesses memory. |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Each one has first acknowledged Scooter's guilt |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
87. I don't see Scooter having any other choice but to take the stand. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. I Think He's Already Done |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. He's not going to give up Cheney. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I agree, the whole "throwing sand in the eyes of the umpire", |
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La_Fourmi_Rouge (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
69. Judge Walton is Keeping Wells in line. |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #69 |
86. Did someone say "impeach?" |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
91. SEEMS WALTON HAS TO KEEP WELLS IN LINE |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
72. Libby's personal note to Ari is quite interesting, imo.... |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. The Pig in the Poke rode to his rescue alright |
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La_Fourmi_Rouge (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I feel like I am in Las Vegas for the first time. |
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kohodog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
78. H20, any hope the trial will bring Cheney down? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 07:39 AM Response to Reply #78 |
98. One hopes so. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
81. Traitors, all of them. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Libby would appear to have violated Title 18, United States Code, Section 793 (Fitz) |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. I guess they think starting a new war will cloud over all this testimony. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. do Pelosi and Reid support a war with Iran |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
82. THE NATIONS DAVID CORN BLOG 7/16/2003 & 7/23/2003 |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. GUARDIAN JULY 17,2003 The spies who pushed for war |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 06:15 AM Response to Reply #84 |
96. Very good! |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #84 |
101. "Shadow intelligence operation." Part of the "shadow government" led by Cheney. n/t |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. ARI FLEISCHER Office of the Press Secretary PRESS RELEASE July 12, 2003 |
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And the Oscar goes (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #88 |
99. I've had an insane idea - has Scooter already made a deal? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. No. n/t |
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