Breaking on GEM$NBC - Dems have the votes

[malaise]

Fuck you RETHUGS and racist, homophobic teabaggers. Elections have consequences.

[Jennicut]

1. It is per a Rep in my state, John Larson from CT:

Key Democrat says votes in place for health bill
AP

WASHINGTON – The chairman of the Democratic caucus in the House says his party has the 216 votes needed to pass President Barack Obama's historic health care bill.

Speaking Sunday on ABC's "This Week," Connecticut Rep. John Larson said, in his words, "We have the votes now -- as we speak."

House Democrats are predicting that a rare Sunday session will produce one of the most significant legislative triumphs in decades: passage of a bill to overhaul the nation's health care system to provide coverage to millions of people.

Republicans resolutely oppose the bill.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul_larson

Larson is a good Rep, pretty trustworthy. Looks like we have the votes.

[malaise]

3. Stupak says they don't have the votes

eight of them are against it. Note he says THEY.
Fuck this FAMILY tool.

[bulloney]

8. This, coming from the guy who says he has 14 other members in his corner

when it appears that it is less than half.

Stupak has little credibility when it comes to vote counts.

[Jennicut]

12. He is about to lose most of his buddies if they agree to an Executive Order

hat no federal funds would be spent on abortions under the bill. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x234054

[NotThisTime]

4. Won't believe it til after the vote.... I'm just on pins and needles

[RKP5637]

2. I sure hope someone doesn't go back on their word. I wanted Medicare for all, A

Public Option, Single Payer, etc., but I think if this bill fails we will be falling back into time. Another poster has said the US is in "A Dark Ages," and if this bill fails that will confirm it to me. While I don't like the "deals," in this country given the way it is today, USA, Inc., it well might be the only way to get something moving along to help people.

Also the republicans are against it, so that automatically tells me there are some good things in it for helping people!!!

[Kingofalldems]

5. Yeah....Yeah!!

K and R in honor of the TSed freepers.

[Cass]

6. Stupak is on now saying he and 8 other are no votes but would support an

Executive Order about the abortion language. Ugh, he is unbelievable.

[NotThisTime]

7. Stupak is raising a red herring... let the President issue the order, it doesn't change the bill at

all....

[Cass]

9. You are right, but his posturing and attempted derailing of this due to

abortion funding which is already not permitted just floors me. :(

[Jennicut]

11. The executive order was proposed by the President and Pelosi last night to some of the Stupak

coalition:


A key group of undeclared Members included retiring Reps. Marion Berry (D-Ark.), Brian Baird (D-Wash.) and John Tanner (D-Tenn.), all of whom leaders hope will be with them in the end. Berry backed the bill the first time around, while Baird and Tanner would be pickups.

The White House was trying to placate at least a few of those Members with an executive order reiterating that no federal funds would be spent on abortions under the bill. Drafts of that order were circulating around the Capitol on Saturday night.

House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told reporters that if an executive order was sufficient to restart stem-cell research, it ought to be sufficient to put to rest the abortion controversy. But he said late Saturday that it had not yet been resolved.

“It’s still an issue,” he said.

With the undeclared dwindling toward the single digits, Democratic vote-counters were facing a narrowing path to 216, the number of “yes” votes needed to pass the measure.

The hope, as of Saturday evening, was that the executive order would bring aboard at least three in the Stupak camp — Reps. Kathy Dahlkemper (D-Pa.), Steve Driehaus (D-Ohio) and Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio) — and maybe one more, between West Virginia Reps. Nick Rahall (D) and Alan Mollohan (D). And leaders were eager to lock down Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.), who also supported House passage. http://www.rollcall.com/news/44442-1.html

[corpseratemedia]

10. some of the stuff I've read on here about expanding medicaid coverage under this bill is good

..perhaps its a way to eventually get a medicare-buy-in type situation to truly control costs.

And from what I've seen and read yesterday, I don't want gutter-born racist garbage to determine domestic policy. We have the KKKrepubicans, and we have everybody else. If they want a "culture war," and this is a front, then we have to win this.

[spanone]

13. now luke russert says they are two votes shy...wtf?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

14. luke's a little slow. He had to take his shoes off to help with the count.

His dad was OK as a journalist, but sonnie is not in the same ballpark. Reminds me of Lipinski (ILL-Blue Dog) and his dad.