*** OFFICIAL HCR/HIR THREAD #2 ***

[Emit]

Previous thread here, getting too long: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7972356&mesg_id=7972356

Cspan link: http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx

Discussion continues leading up to vote

On edit, thanks tekisui for the schedule:


Here's a rough schedule for today's Historic Health Insurance Reform Vote which will air LIVE! on C-SPAN and http://www.c-span.org

2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.

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1. Lee Repug from western New York - "government take over"

broken record

[Jack Rabbit]

3. No, it's not

But I wish it were.

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5. Yes, me too

their claims are so far off the mark, it's not even funny

[babylonsister]

4. "I have government health care now, and I'd welcome anyone to try it"

Like that's a bad thing? I'd LOVE to try it, asshat! (Lee, not Emit:P )

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7. Well, sister, I actually do have state government HC coverage and I WISH EVERYONE HAD it too!

Even though my premiums are climbing faster than I can keep count and my oop expenses and deductables have more than doubled in the last year, arrggh!

lol, I knew you were referring to that rethug Lee.

:hug:

[sneezepaddle]

2. I have been a Democrat all of my adult life...I have one question...

Why didn't my party's reps have this much backbone a year ago...or during Bush's reign of terror..nevertheless I am very proud of my party today!

[tekisui]

6. Here's a rough schedule for this evening.

Here's a rough schedule for today's Historic Health Insurance Reform Vote which will air LIVE! on C-SPAN and http://www.c-span.org

2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.

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8. Thank you so much, tekisui

was looking for this earlier. I will add you info to the OP, if I may. :thumbsup:

[tekisui]

9. Of course!

I got it in an Organizing for America email.

[Swamp Rat]

11. Thanks

:kick:

[jwirr]

22. EST?

[tekisui]

25. Yes,but they are already far behind. The schedule is only

good for the sequence of events.

I read, I think on DU, that the final vote will be after 11 pm EST.

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10. GOPers are suddenly worried about flawed bills

Man, they were so quiet during the Bushco march to war and bankruptcy.

[Schema Thing]

12. It's like a Catholic mass!

[tishaLA]

13. so their new talking point is "this flawed health care bill"

they sound like a bunch of parrots

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14. Debate request

I missed that. Anybody follow that?

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15. Why do the Repukes hate up or down votes so much?

What a bunch of lamers.

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16. New Repug Talking point "flawed Health Care Bill"

[mrs_p]

17. what is going on

is this a way to just waste time?

[blaze]

18. I don't understand

Can someone explain the current parade to me?

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20. It's a request for unanimous consent

They have only a certain amount of time to speak so they are yielding their time to others until someone is ready to speak. I think that's what's going on. I've seen it when they are trying to expedite things, but I am really uncertain what that was about on the Repuke's part. maybe other DUers who are more schooled on the matter will explain. :shrug:

[cal04]

19. OMG our fourth graders act more mature than these morons

and this is our government
pretty sickening

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21. Was that Bachman? Dangerous HC Bill --- oooo, dangerous.

[mrs_p]

23. these repubs are like an abusive partner

promising to do better ("we really want to solve this in a bipartisanship matter") only to slap us down if we give them another chance

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24. Now going into vote. They are now voting on suspension of rules vote, mostly procedural

After, there is a series of votes ~ most important is the vote on the rule under which the HR legislation will proceed, reconciliation

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26. 5 minute vote now

on the first test for rules for debate

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27. Procedural vote is finished

later tonight the vote for attempt at final passage

Cao of LA, the one Repub vote from before, is now a no vote, but we knew that would be likely

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28. Next up, 5 minute vote on unrelated action

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29. Get ready for 5 minutes of whacky Cspan callers, lol

[ThomWV]

30. Now we have an indicator of what the final vote may look like 224:206

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31. I was thinking that, too

wondering if that procedural vote was indicative of the other, upcoming vote

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32. Now debate for amendments and Hoyer and Boehner up

Waxman will manage the time

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33. Hoyer talking about 'repealing' Medicare, lol

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34. Hoyer: Every President in the last century says this is necessary

He did a good job, all in all.

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35. Repug from GA talking socialism. *yawn*

Says as Governor, he will work against bill, challenging constitutionality of bill

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36. I wonder why people are scared?

Could it be the GOP screaming socialism?

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37. Really.

Hey, I missed that last part, aside from the fear, fear. But when that guy ended his comments, what was the clapping? Was that the tea 'baggers?

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38. John Dingell on now

time expired, sorry to say. He got a decent applause. Historic for him.

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39. Stearns Fla Repuke: Abortion, abortion, taxes, taxes, rationing, rationing

fear fear fear nothing else

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40. Sensenbrenner on now

talking about executive order

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41. Repugs got nothing

repeating same old tired rhetoric and the wind is out of their sails. They sound pretty lackluster at this point.

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42. Okay this Linder repuke is an ass

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43. Wacko NUNEs is up with his Socialist Utopia crap