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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:37 PM
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So did George Tenet lose his moral compass or did he never have one to begin with?
I keep thinking- he knew that all this crap about weapons of mass destruction was a lie, he knew it better than anyone. But he gave in to Cheney and Bush because they pressured him. And Colin Powell must have known it was a lie too. Didn't he have a moral center at some point in his life? Certainly a lot of people thought so.

What if those two had stood together and held their ground against the rest? They could have done something great. Instead they lowered themselves into the cesspool of the Bush Cheney administration, erasing anything good they'd every done before.

How does that happen?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:38 PM
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1. If he did, he got it out of a Cracker Jack box....
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:44 PM
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2. What kills me is that he seems to be expecting some sort of props >
> from interviewers while on this book tour and he's surprised when he doesn't get it.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:48 PM
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4. He gets angry at the interviewer
saying "we're the CIA" "we're the ones who tell the truth"... well I don't doubt that there are more people actually interested in finding out the facts in the CIA than in some other government agencies, I don't doubt it at all. But the point is, he totally abandoned that when he joined up with the good ol boys. He became political. He stopped telling the truth and traded on the good reputation of the CIA for a lie. No one will ever believe any of these people again, even when they ARE telling the truth.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:46 PM
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3. Well, based on his 60 minute interview, I believe he sold his soul
....to the devil right after the results of the 2000 election thinking he could beat the devil's demons, Bush/Cheney and company, only to be completely be overrun by his complicity and failure to do the right thing after he finally realized his mistake.:shrug:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:52 PM
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5. His flaw was: he wanted to be liked and respected.
From a review of James Risen's book, "State of War":

DU link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x785472

(snip)
...George Tenet, the former CIA director, whom Risen paints as a feckless yes man, a pusillanimous glad-hander who ruined the agency's credibility and integrity because he could never stand up to others in the administration. "George Tenet liked to talk about how he was a tough Greek from Queens, but in reality, he was a pussy," one former CIA insider tells Risen. "He just wanted people to like him."
(snip)

...and that's the long and the short of it.

:nopity:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:53 PM
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6. If he ever had a moral compass it pointed down.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:53 PM
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7. CIA Director...
...'nuff said.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:57 PM
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8. Head of a criminal organization.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:00 PM
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9. He caved and let himself be corrupted
And now he's weaving a whole new web of lies to cover his cowardly ass and make himself out to be some kind of victim. He wasn't a victim. He just utterly failed to distinguish himself by standing up for what was right. The Bush** administration is riddled with yellow-bellied suck-ups.

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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:07 PM
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10. The $4 MILLION question...
(his advance for the book he's promoting)
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:12 PM
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11. I vote for "Never had one".
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:16 PM
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12. We should send him a medal of shame
covered with blood.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:17 PM
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13.  Can't lose something you never had
He amoung others have some unknown reason for coming out now and it's not a conscience or moral it's for either saving their face or to avoid being charged with some crime .
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:21 PM
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14. He was a Clinton appointment
not that that makes him morally wonderful, but Clinton tended to appoint intelligent people rather than cronies.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 05:38 PM
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22.  Clinton made his mistakes too
And there are some we will be dealing with for generations .

Who knows what goes through some peoples minds , Tenent sat behind Powell and said nothing as powell shook his little vial of whire powder and here we are now .
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 05:42 PM
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23. Yes, but no one in American History has ever made the president before him
look as intelligent and morally developed as GWB has done for Bill Clinton.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:26 PM
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15. He is one of them n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 03:00 PM
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17. Pres. Clinton did not want Tenet as CIA Chief.
Tenet was the "compromise" Appointment.

Tenet knew that he was selling out the CIA by allowing Cheney and Rumsfailed to cherry pick Intell and re-craft it at the Office of Special Plans in order to "Sell the Iraq Invasion" to Congress and the American People. It seems that the Busholini Regime figured that they could get away with their scheme because Iraq would fall fairly easily and the question of WMDs would be moot. Wasn't that what "Mission Accomplished" was all about? The flaw in their Grand Plan was the persistent Iraqi Insurgency.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:53 PM
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16. He is a "company man."
Those personality traits and bureaucratic skills opened the doors for him at a time when the CIA was changing. He would not have been the head of the Agency during the bitter days of the Cold War, and surely lacked the skills to serve well in the context of the new century. His two outstanding character traits were a total lack of character, which would allow him to brown-nose anyone who happened to be president, no matter how unqualified -- and the proof is in the pudding on that -- and ambition.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 03:24 PM
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18. IMO, perfect explanation of George Tenet, H2O Man.
:applause: :applause:

As I watched his interview on 60 Minutes Sunday night, I said to Mr. Wonderful, "how did this guy ever get to Director of the CIA? Total gladhander, that's all he is and also a terrible liar."
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 03:43 PM
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19. I was actually
happy that I do not get CBS. I don't have any interest in reading his book, and I usually do read the decent books by conservatives and/or republicans. (Not trash like O'Reilly or Coulter, but the serious works.) I don't think Tenet is qualified to be a Pee Wee League assistant coach, much less the director of any federal agency.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 04:05 PM
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20. It was a good interview
but I knew little about Tenet, so I obviously was left wondering exactly how far he had fallen. Not very far, apparently. Still sees himself as a victim.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 05:02 PM
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21. "Pee Wee League assistant coach"
Yep, that sums up George Tenet.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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