Planned Parenthood statement

[ProSense]

And Planned Parenthood, via e-mail:

"We regret that a pro-choice president of a pro-choice nation was forced to sign an Executive Order that further codifies the proposed anti-choice language in the health care reform bill, originally proposed by Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska. What the president's executive order did not do is include the complete and total ban on private health insurance coverage for abortion that Congressman Bart Stupak (D-MI) had insisted upon. So while we regret that this proposed Executive Order has given the imprimatur of the president to Senator Nelson's language, we are grateful that it does not include the Stupak abortion ban."

link

[hlthe2b]

1. A far more balanced response than NOW, I'd say...

(not that I am happy at all that ANY such language is included, but still....)

[Stinky The Clown]

21. Yeah ..... that damned and detestable N.O.W. ..... how dare they stand up for women's rights?

[hlthe2b]

34. Stinky...save the sarcasm

This feminist female does not deserve it. To suggest that only NOW and NOT Planned Parenthood is concerned for women's rights? You are way off base.

PP does not like it either, but as I said, it was a "balanced response" --that is all.

[Coexist]

2. very appropriate response.

[Ean Juan]

3. I see you didn't bold the part where PP regrets his signing of the executive order

That bold feauture is very useful.

[WillyT]

4. Welcome To DU, Ean Juan !!!

:bounce::toast::bounce:

Glad ta have ya aboard !!!

:hi:

[ProSense]

6. Yes

very useful

Good thing you were able to read the rest of the statement in the OP despite it.

[Ean Juan]

17. Big difference: I didn't leave out information that undermined my argument

In the NARAL statement, NARAL said nothing that can be considered positive regarding the executive order; therefore, I didn't cherrypick.
If you can point to a part of the NARAL statement that could have been bolded but wasn't, please do so.

On the other hand, you did not bold the negative part of Planned Parenthood's statement.

[ProSense]

19. What? Information was left out? Really? n/t

[Ean Juan]

22. Their regret was left out of the useful bold feature

Which is the point of contention. You admit the bold feature is a very useful tool. So let's not pretend that merely not leaving something out suffices.

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[liberalmuse]

5. Well done, though I understand NOW's anger as well.

Women are always the first to be thrown under the bus with these things. :(

I like the way Planned Parenthood worded this, because it is true that President Obama was in a sense 'forced' to do this in order to make progress on HCR. I hope one day we can all evolve to the point where women's bodies are never sacrificed for the 'the greater good'.

[robinblue]

10. I do not see it as progress and he was not forced!

[bonnieS]

37. NOW is totally right

and Obama was not forced to do anything--he gave in to whatever and whomever he chose. Everyone seems to forget that it was he who kept holding out the carrot of a public option long AFTER he gave away that option to the insurance companies. He made deals with everyone but liberals and he ended up with a bill that is NOT for the common good (especially when you throw in an expanded Executive Order) because it hurts women, who ought to be included in the greater picture, but somehow don't make it into that category--again.

NOW is absolutely rigtht--they work for the rights of women, not insurance companies, and they are not an adjunt of the Democratic Party.

[rhett o rick]

12. Pres Obama threw lots of people under the bus on this. People are going to continue

dying because of crappy health care. Who in good conscience can support this shit?

[robinblue]

7. Nobody forced Obama to issue the statement.

[xchrom]

9. Unrec

[berni_mccoy]

14. Seriously?

[inna]

29. seriously as hell.

[mzmolly]

11. K and

R. :kick:

[Guilded Lilly]

13. (Sidebar) I'm just curious about some wording...

has any one defined exactly what "endangering the life of the woman" actually encompasses, legally?

[berni_mccoy]

15. K&R. Stupak got NADA!

[usregimechange]

18. kick

[saracat]

20. We are grateful for crumbs. Yeah right.Not a ringing endordsement is it?

[ProSense]

23. Accordingly,

not "crumbs":

President Obama’s health care reform proposal would make a real difference for the women and families who rely on Planned Parenthood. It would extend health care coverage to tens of millions of Americans; guarantee access to affordable preventive screenings for cancer and other life-saving tests; protect women against gender discrimination by private insurers; end the practice of dropping coverage because of pre-existing conditions; and significantly increase access to reproductive health care.

link

[WillyT]

25. Psst... Hey, saracat...

"Please, sir, Can I have some more?"

:shrug:

:hi:

[ProSense]

26. Psst....

President Obama’s health care reform proposal would make a real difference for the women and families who rely on Planned Parenthood. It would extend health care coverage to tens of millions of Americans; guarantee access to affordable preventive screenings for cancer and other life-saving tests; protect women against gender discrimination by private insurers; end the practice of dropping coverage because of pre-existing conditions; and significantly increase access to reproductive health care.

link

[WillyT]

31. Oh Well Then... Everything Is Just Peaches And Cream...

I'm sure women will have no problem at all being "symbolically" sent to the back of the bus... or under it.

I'm sure after all these many years, that they are quite aware of "their place".

:shrug:

[saracat]

33. Psst. That was from Jan. There have been changes since then.

[laughingliberal]

35. An old statement made to look new? From her? I'm shocked!!!nt

[depakid]

24. Planned Parenthood understands that the Democrats sold them out

And they also know that when the next president comes in, the order can be rescinded.

Might actually be smart politics by Obama- hold a sword of damocles over some important constituencies.

Who knows, maybe he'll actually start doing start doing a little strong arming along those lines with groups on the corporate right.

[enlightenment]

28. Thanks, depakid - my first real laugh of the day . . .

"Who knows, maybe he'll actually start doing start doing a little strong arming along those lines with groups on the corporate right".

[cornermouse]

27. Pathetic.

Absolutely pathetic.

[Cerridwen]

30. Damning with faint praise.

You left off the other parts within the post to which you linked. In part;

Naral - deeply disappointed

NOW - incensed

Pro-Choice Caucus (via link within said post) - livid

Additional comments from Pro-Choice Caucus members (via linked article within said post) - (more damning with faint praise) reluctantly support if it doesn't further erode women's reproductive rights

[joeybee12]

32. Planned parentood gets some sort of federal funding, doesn't it...at some level?

NOW does not.

Kind of explains how timid planned parenthood is being.

[xchrom]

36. +1