REPUB: "It's Waterloo All Right --- Ours"

[kpete]

*****FRUM: A huge part of the blame for today’s disaster attaches to conservatives and Republicans ourselves. At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994. <...>

This time, when we went for all the marbles, we ended with none. <...>

So today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours.


http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/22/frum-health-our-waterloo/

[BridgeTheGap]

1. And couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of a*#holes! n.t

[Captain Hilts]

2. Republicans strongly support a Public Option. R's are on the wrong side of history. nt

[WhiteTara]

3. that's what I told my pubie congresscritter

this morning. I added: ashamed, embarrassed, disgusted and I won't be voting for you and will actively campaign against.

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. Huh?

since when?

[Captain Hilts]

9. A survey showed that over 60% favored one. Perhaps some see it as an

alternative to generalized HCR.

But they do support it.

[RaleighNCDUer]

13. OK, you are conflating the pols with the people.

Republican VOTERS favor a public option - along with the rest of the American public. Republican pols oppose the public option, along with a significant number of Democratic pols - which is why there is no public option in the bill.

They are ALL on the wrong side of history.

I support health care reform. This bill is not health care reform - it is tweaking around the edges of health insurance reform.

Now, maybe if it had a public option...

[kestrel91316]

10. No, Repukes DO NOT strongly (or weakly) support a PO.

But they ARE on the wrong side of history(AGAIN).

[Captain Hilts]

11. Republican voters do. nt

[hobbit709]

4. Waterloo worked out pretty well for Wellington.

[DemoTex]

5. It's Waterloo and President Obama is Wellington ..

This next song is dedicated to the GOP .. spin it Mac!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85yMOPKR94M

[still_one]

6. Frum's analysis is probably the best I have seen on this bill /nt

[Bitwit1234]

8. You know over time,

as the real provisions of this health care bill, altho not all we wanted, come out, most people will see the republicans were the ones trying to screw them. They will know that Fox and rush were the liars.

That this was not about a health care bill, it was about the republicans trying to undermine the democrats and President Obama. It will become crystal clear that the republicans messed up in a big big way. And I predict that the Democrats might loose some seats in heavily republican districts, but that they will make up more than that in picking up seats across the board. Wait and see. The democrats have to get the message out tho.

[calimary]

14. I loved comment #21 - where the point was made that this will shake down and

people (all but the hystericals) will start noticing that the sky isn't falling, Vladimir Lenin and Hitler have not risen from the grave, nobody's killed grandma, and that they actually may be seeing some practical benefits from the legislation. And for the next 30 years, Democrats will be able to run on - WE gave you this, with NOTHING but obstruction, interference, and various other kinds of political constipation from the GOP. And they wanna get rid of this, now? They want to go back to those "good old days" when you could arbitrarily be kicked off your insurance even after you'd paid month after month after month because the big insurance pirates thought you cost too much and fucked up their profit margins, or when they could refuse you coverage for some bullshit pre-existing condition crap. The GOP will be on THAT side for years, with it shoved in their faces that THEY FOUGHT AGAINST this thing that's helping you.

Sounds good to me!!!

:toast:

[gratuitous]

12. Poker players: What happens when you push all in with the inferior hand?

But let's all listen to Orange Julius whine some more. I remember after the resolution to go to war with Iraq was crammed down our throats, how much time all the news outlets devoted to dissenters who said the invasion of Iraq wasn't going to do a fucking thing to enhance our security or bring any terrorists to justice or further the cause of peace. In fact, it took me longer to type that sentence than it would take to run all the footage from ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox and the cable channels of dissent. Today, we are treated to the spectacle of John Boehner wagging his manicured finger and intoning, "Shame, shame, shame" on America. You think anyone will subject him to the Rev. Wright treatment?