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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:30 PM
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Massive Change in US Student Loans Slipped in to Bill
Here's something we would definitely want to ensure gets thru the Senate ....

Good work on this!!

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The Democratic-led U.S. House of Representatives Sunday approved President Barack Obama’s bid to implement what would be the biggest overhaul in decades of the federal student loan program.

Under the legislation, federal subsidies to private student loan lenders would stop and the government’s role in lending would increase – creating billions of dollars in projected savings that would go largely in grants to needy students.

The measure, opposed by private lenders and critics of an expanding federal government, was included in a package of proposed changes to an overhaul of the U.S. health care system.

The House passed the package after giving final approval to the health care bill that is ready for Mr. Obama to sign into law.

The package of changes now goes to the Democratic-led Senate for needed concurrence. A vote is expected this week.

The House-passed measure would halt a 1965 program that has private financial institutions make loans for college tuition, with the government covering the risk of default.

Mostly Republican critics complain the action would amount to an unwarranted government takeover of the program and reduce students’ options in securing a loan.

But primarily Democratic backers argue it would eliminate the middle men – private lenders – from the process, allowing the government to save billions of dollars.

The measure would cut banks and student loan giant Sallie Mae out of most of the $92-billion (U.S.) college student loan business and require that all federal students loans originate with the government.

Private lenders would still have a role in servicing loans, such as helping collect them. Direct federal loans, unlike loans by banks, must be serviced by U.S. workers.

“This is good for students, taxpayers and American jobs,” said House Education Committee Chairman George Miller, a Democrat.

Non-partisan congressional budget analysts project that the measure would save about $61-billion over 10 years. Savings would go increased federal grants to the neediest students as well as to other education programs, including funding of community and historically black colleges.

While the House approved the measure last year, it stalled in the Senate in the face of a threatened Republican procedural hurdle that take 60 votes in the 100-member chamber to clear.

Democrats, however, now plan to bring up the measure in a manner that would require only a simply majority, 51 votes, to pass.

“It’s a very bad idea,” Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said in denouncing the proposed student loan overhaul.

“We now have the government running banks, insurance companies, car companies” and Democrats want the government to now “take over the student loan business,” McConnell said.

House Education Committee Chairman Miller defended the proposal, saying, “We can reform the student loan program by taking these wasteful subsidies (to private lenders) -- and redeem the savings for millions of families and students who want a shot at attending college.”



http://www.reuters.com/
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:39 PM
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1. It wasn't "slipped in." This is the way things are done - it was added.
And it makes sense. Why should the state - the government - be essentially subsidizing the bankers in the manner they have with these loans. Government assumes all risk and no reward.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:52 PM
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7. Yes ... it makes sense, but that was also the original headline . .
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:17 PM
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12. Commenet to headline-writer, not poster here...
They pull this crap all the time.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:40 PM
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2. Republicans have no problems passing those costs on to taxpayers.
We absorb 100's of billions of costs to privatize these programs...we socialize the risks and privatize the profits. Time for that to change.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:41 PM
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3. Getting enough college loans these past years have been difficult. I'm not
sure I understand how the process to determine the amount of loan coverage is going to be calculated, but I hope it will be to cover all of the tuition and books. And my immediate thought when I read that Mitch McConnell was against it that it was probably not too bad... But as a consumer, I'm growing weary of all the ways I'm being gouged...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:53 PM
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8. We also need to return to usury laws on Student Loans . .. they are infinite now!!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:47 PM
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4. What would be great is if students who have recently
finished college with the onerous loans to repay could refinance them through this program.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:55 PM
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9. We should also have a program to finance college for everyone . . .
and it should be some proportion of the number of students and what is

borrowed so that the next generation is coveed automatically and to ensure

that everyone who wants an education -- whatever age -- can have one.

We need to start surrendering these capitalistic ideas that everything is

to be based on the yardstick of a dollar bill.

We need more government run programs, not less --

And less capitalism, not more!!

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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:52 PM
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5. This is a good program. Why should we
foot the bill for private banks?
Let them get the loans directly from the government. It's for the good of the country if we have affordable higher education.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:58 PM
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10. Of course . .. but much of what goes on is hidden from the public...
or there's so much of this crap they have no hope of trying to challenge

it all separately, even if they are aware of it.

Next we have to get something done on the Student Loans!

We need usury laws returned on them -- used to be 6 years -- now infinite!





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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:57 PM
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6. The Bankruptcy Code was changed in 2005 to exclude private
student loans from discharge in bankruptcy. That means that when a student and his or her family take out a student loan, they can't get out of paying it back even if they go into bankruptcy. A bill was discussed in Congress last fall that would have changed that provision. How does yesterday's legislation affect the discharge of private student loans in bankruptcy?

Does anyone just happen to know? I'll see if I can look it up later, but for now, I'm wondering how this will affect that provision if it hasn't already been changed.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:01 PM
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11. I'm sure something happened, but I'm also sure that student loans were
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 03:03 PM by defendandprotect
never able to be dropped in bankruptcy -- at least in last 20 years or so!

And I know that there are parents paying these loans along with their kids for

20 years!

The kids keep renegotiating them whenever they can to reduce the amounts but it

also elongates how long they will be paying for it and increases the interest.

The difference may be some interpretation of "private" . . . ???



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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:24 AM
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13. Some student loans never could be discharged, but some could.
Congress changed the law in 2005 to encompass among the loans that could not be discharged many that prior to that time could be discharged. I think that government loans were not subject to discharge before 2005, but private ones were. Now just about any loan that has anything to do with education cannot be discharged. That's my vague recollection on this.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 09:52 PM
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15. Thank you for the additional information . . . !!
:)
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The Midway Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:32 AM
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14. Hooray for measures that counter corporatocracy and foster education! n/t
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