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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:50 PM
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Details on the mandate I haven't seen discussed here:
Starting in 2014, most Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty.

* The penalty will be phased in, starting at 1 percent of income in 2014, and rising to the maximum of $2,085 for a family in 2016.
* American Indians don’t have to buy insurance. Those with religious objections or a financial hardship can also avoid the requirement. And if you would pay more than 8 percent of your income for the cheapest available plan, you will not be penalized for failing to buy coverage.
* Those who are exempt, or under 30, can buy a policy that only pays for catastrophic medical costs. It must allow for three primary care visits a year as well.


I found this here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/03/21/us/health-care-reform.html

It doesn't sound as immediate or draconian as some have made it sound - other opinions?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:54 PM
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1. Gosh, people propagandizing something to make it seem much worse than it is?
I'm shocked. :D

Seriously, I'm no fan of mandates, but this isn't the same as the bullshit the wingnuts (and many DUers) have been peddling about how you'd go to prison if you didn't sell your kidneys to Aetna.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:00 PM
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2. Obama is going to sell us all as Soylent Green
get with the program, he is the debbil in disguise and the cause of all corporate greed in the history of all known universes. Plus he is such a huge Wimp for not overturning what has been predatory capitalism since the beginnings of time where the rich held power over the poor.

He is weak! for letting this system continue! My god, its' been over a Year! yah, change we can believe in! sure.

:sarc: (just in case someone thinks i'm serious because there have been posts not too far from this that were 'serious'.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:18 PM
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5. I have to give up my kidneys?
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:00 PM
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3. Why don't
American Indians have to pay for it like everybody else? What percentage qualifies one as being American Indian? What religious objection can one use?
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:17 PM
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4. Native Americans are, legally, a unique subset of the citizenry,
because of the Supreme Court ruling that established the concept of 'domestic dependent nations'.
http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2006/November/20061103120126cjsamoht0.4840967.html

As such, I'd imagine that the fed does not have the authority to force mandates on the tribes.

As for qualification - the percentage of ancestry depends on the tribe, but many consider 1/16th (with proof) sufficient for membership.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:24 PM
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6. Thanks for the info
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:34 PM
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7. hmmm
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