Outside of mandates (which you can opt out of) HCR is regulation of an industry

[The Straight Story]

We regulate a lot of industries and what they can or cannot do. From the SEC to basic insurance regulations, etc.

I don't get the whole hoopla over it all - other than the mandates to purchase insurance (which again, you can claim a religious exemption for and not buy into it).

We regulate how much pollution a corp can create in water/air, how they interact with public lands, how investments are handled, and so on.

If the companies involved had not screwed up as much as they had they would not even have to worry about such regulation. You Choose to start an insurance company, hospital, etc and you also choose to be regulated by the people who give you the license to practice business.

We all have rules of law we must follow, it is part of being a society. Some things you can do, some you cannot - why should companies (who are now people and can influence campaigns freely as persons) not have the same ideals applied to them?

[Cleobulus]

1. The regulations don't go far enough...

No one on this board would complain that health insurance companies are overregulated, on the contrary, they are underregulated.

If mandates are going to be needed, then so should at least this as a regulation:

Insurance companies cannot deny ANY claims that have valid medical reasons as advised by a doctor overseeing a patient's care.

This would go a hell of a lot farther than the preexisting condition regulation that is currently in place.

[The Straight Story]

4. I agree - but my point is (and one I made to folks on facebook)

We regulate industry on a regular basis, as we do individuals. How, other than the mandates, is this any different then every day regulation?

[leftstreet]

2. How does the 'religious' exemption work?

I don't get that

[The Straight Story]

3. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7977634

[leftstreet]

5. Thanks, I missed that. Look for many Americans to suddenly find Jesus

[Soylent Brice]

9. Your Name Here

:rofl:

[kenny blankenship]

6. Are you Amish? Live in a Quaker community? No? A Mormon white separatist polygamist perhaps? No?

then you don't get it.

Native American living on a reservation? Last chance. Goooing, gooiiing....

[leftstreet]

7. I've got a couple of Ceiling Cat graphics on my pc

:-)

[The Straight Story]

8. Think of vaccinations here

Many people can avoid them for schools using the same idea - you oppose them for religious reasons (same with military service, etc). You don't have to be Amish.

[kenny blankenship]

10. So all you need is a letter from your Jehovah's Witnesses faith healer

or maybe scars from snake handling...

I'm not sure why this country equates being a religious nutter with having a conscientious objection that must be taken seriously - but it does.

[The Straight Story]

12. It is called separation of church and state - and it cuts both ways

I don't want the government in my beliefs.

[kestrel91316]

11. Quakers don't eschew medical insurance, nor do Mormon polygamists.

AFAIK only the Amish do, just like Social Security, and they are able to demonstrate that their church membership in fact takes care of its members' financial and social needs. The old live with family and are cared for until they die. If Amish need medical care, they pay out of pocket, and if it's burdensome the other members pitch in to help out.

[girl gone mad]

13. Christian Scientists. n/t