Sy Hersh: "The worst is yet to come."

[sabra]

http://media.www.tuftsdaily.com/media/storage/paper856/news/2007/01/30/News/Journalist.Sy.Hersh.Has.Harsh.Words.For.Bush-2685555.shtml?sourcedomain=www.tuftsdaily.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

Journalist Sy Hersh has harsh words for Bush

<snip>

"The fact of the matter is we have a government that will do what it wants to do for the next two years," he said. "The worst is yet to come. It's sort of like we're essentially powerless (and) just play it out."

...

"It may come down to the president making an order that the military will object to," Hersh said. "It would be devastating, but it may come down to it. My fear is that he will do what he wants."

...

"He's a total radical, probably the most radical president we've ever had in terms of his definition of the power of the presidency," he said. "There's nothing more dangerous than a radical who doesn't have information, doesn't learn from information and doesn't learn from the past."

This radicalism, he said, has dangerous implications. "This is a guy who wants to leave office with the Iranian books clean," he said of Bush.

"None of this means it's going to happen," he told the hushed audience. "It could be better under (current Secretary of Defense Robert) Gates, but we'll have to wait and see."

[babylonsister]

1. Coming from Hersh, this gives me the chills. Impeach NOW! nt

[autorank]

75. "Cming from Hersh" ... he has authority, a distinguished career built on honesty and guts. n/t

[NinetySix]

82. I heard he's the closest thing in journalism to a terrorist

Trying to think where I heard that...





Oh yeah, that's right.

[autorank]

86. That is one ugly dude!

And his thoughts and words are uglier! Hersh is a great source of informatoin and analysis.
He's seen these guys for the danger that that they are for years.

[underpants]

2. Yeah well that is just Sy Hersch-when has HE ever been right?

:scared:
3

:sarcasm:

[thereismore]

23. my sentiment exactly. nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. Why are 'we the people' allowing this tyrant to proceed?

It's not hard to stop him what's the problem? The colonists didn't stop getting rid of the British tyrannical rule, have modern Amercians lost it?

Is it the case that our represntatives in congress are really 'one of him' or is it the fact that members of congress actually fear him on what he might do to them if they oppose him. Stalin revisited?

[Greeby]

47. This is fascism. In fascism, there is no "allow" nt

[Habibi]

4. I don't understand this:

"It's sort of like we're essentially powerless (and) just play it out."

How can we be powerless with a Dem-controlled Congress? How can he just do whatever he wants?

[sabra]

6. NYTimes Page1: Bush Directive Increases Sway on Regulation

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/washington/30rules.html?hp&ex=1170219600&en=9f1468dd91984d81&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[CrispyQ]

44. Holy crap.

The man is determined to be a dictator, We the People be damned.

[Kashka-Kat]

7. Depends whether that Dem congress chooses to continue to play enabler role... OR NOT.

We have yet to see.

Its going to have to be us, the people, who lead our supposed leaders. They aren't going to do it for us.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

9. Congress SHOULD be looking at this (minimum wage is good but this is more pressing)

[seemslikeadream]

13. What happens when unresolved scandals take a back seat to a domestic agenda?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2706117

[Rosa Luxemburg]

18. thank you and.....

if Dems didn't win Congress we would be in deeper trouble than we are now but having these people do deals with the GOP makes me feel sick! Did Clinton have a gun to his head by the 'gestapo'

[Just-plain-Kathy]

48. The DLC's plan is to sit back, do nothing about Iraq, and let Bush fail.

It's true.

.....Here’s a quote from the DLC web site. It talks about what the DLC wants it’s members to say about the surge.

>>> snip

...a congressional effort to cut funding would be seen in the country as an attempt to seize control of Iraq policy. If there is to be a calamitous, Vietnam-style U.S. defeat in Iraq, Karl Rove would probably like nothing better than to goad Democrats into assuming co-responsibility for it. There's no reason to fall into this trap now. So Democrats should speak their minds, hope for the best in Iraq, and be prepared to hold the president accountable if his latest plan fails.


<<< end


http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=124&subid=307&contentid=254171

[barbtries]

52. if that's the plan

of my congresspeople, they won't get my vote next time out. assuming we'll still have elections of course...

[Gloria]

58. You can't expect the DLC to say anything else...and Hillary and Bayh

and the others will never really do anything strong against this crew....after all, it was Clinton who signed the damned "Iraq Liberation Act"* of October 31, 1998.

They'll hold Bush "accountable" if the plan fails, but how strenuously are they against the idea behind the plan?? Not very, now nor in 2003.

*ILA--which states, "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Sound familiar??

[Just-plain-Kathy]

65. I'll be honest with you, my interest in politics is very very new to me

...My kids were babies during the nineties and I felt safe.

It wasn't until after 9-11 I took interest. ...I always voted for democrats because my parenst were democrats and they drilled in my head, "democrats are for the people, where republicans are for business". ..Plus I always saw democrats as being more interesting.

Re: Your post...

Are saying that Bill Clinton got things rolling with this "Iraq Liberation Act"? ...So, how afraid of Hillary should we be?

[Gloria]

71. To get a real good rundown of the last 50 years of America's

foreign and economic policies, read "The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time" by Antonia Juhasz.

Pages 176-179 will bring you up to speed on the Clinton years and PNAC and the Center for Peace and Security (chaired by Richard Perle) which demanded the overthrow of Saddam.

Eventually, under "intense lobbying by PNAC, CSPG, and others Congress and Clinton enacted the Iraq Liberation Act" which authorized the president to provide $2 million in support of radio and TV broadcasting for the opposition and $97 million in military and other defense support. Ahmed Chalabi was the most recognized leader of the Iraqi National Congress, which was the group that received the money.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

72. Thank you Gloria...I'll have to get that book, just the title alone grabs ya.

It's amazing what's going on around us, -and most Americans don't have a clue...me included..but I'm learning.

Thanks again.

:pals:

[Gloria]

84. It's a fast read and every page makes me madder and madder.....

It just made EVERYTHING gel for me, including the fact that expending a lot of energy on candidate worship is pointless, since the system is up and they're all basically accepting of it. For me, this book made me realize that we are basically living in a PRETEND country, with everyone PRETENDING they hold our founding values near and dear.
HA!

[Just-plain-Kathy]

85. I think you're right, "candidate worship is pointless"...

I guess if we dig deep enough, there's no perfect candidate. ...And after finding out more about the DLC this week, I'm not so sure if there's a perfect party. It's been a rude awakening for me.

Many people here feel it's wrong to criticized our own, but we have plenty of time before the big elections. I like to see our candidates, warts and all...this way we could sort out the worst.

Besides, if we're able to find dirt on our own candidates, I'm sure the GOP is on top of it already.

:hi:

[Kashka-Kat]

61. Oh fer crying out loud!!!

How are they going to hold Bush "accountable if his latest plan fails" if they haven't bothered to hold him accountable for any other d*mn thing??? This is getting ridiculous. Somebody be an adult and take responsibility.

[Clark2008]

62. You know - I like you.

I think I've pretty much agreed with most of your posts.

Happy Belated Welcome to DU.

:hi:

[Just-plain-Kathy]

66. Hey Big Guy, I've seen you around...

I like you too!!..Thanks for the welcome ;)

[Rosa Luxemburg]

63. yes so what happens if there is another 9/11

Bush yet again for a 3rd term and a 4th term and a 5th term.......

[coznfx]

80. Could we just cut off funding

of the Secret Service .... ?

[endarkenment]

17. Suppose he attacks Iran.

What exactly would congress do about it?

Note that the current congress has taken impeachment off the table, has taken cutting funding for the war off the table, and is working hard on a non-binding resolution that will be ambiguous at best about the current war policies of the administration.

Congress has exactly two powers over the executive: impeachment and finances. I do not see any signs that this congress is willing to use either approach to reigning in the criminal cabal in the white house.

Further, we do not control congress. We have a majority in the house, we do not have the required 60 votes in the Senate to move forward on legislation (or to act on an impeachment). The Democratic majority is limited consequently to one action alone: defeating funding for the war. I assert that as things stand now, we will not do that.

[dos pelos]

50. Congress will do nothing,it will posture and squirm a bit......

The people are disenfranchised.We are to send our taxes and our blood.The WILL OF THE PEOPLE is ignored.Iran will be attacked.The Bill Of Rights will be undercut.Congress will,congress has acquiesced.The people voted out a Republican congress and voted in a Democratic one.It will not matter.It will change nothing,as those we voted out and those we voted in serve the same corporate masters,who are committed to this Oil War,this resource war,this resource grab.We have reached a point where the entire political establishment is revealed as an instrument unresponsive to the people.What are we to do?

[scarletwoman]

56. "the entire political establishment is revealed as an instrument unresponsive to the people." YES!

You are absolutely correct. It drives me nuts that so few people seem to recognize this obvious fact.

Therefore, a thousand thank-yous for speaking the truth, and for speaking it quite skillfully. If it were possible to recommend posts other than OPs, I would love to recommend yours.

sw

p.s. -- Why do you not enable a profile?

[magellan]

74. Let me echo scarletwoman's sentiments

...and say I wish I could recommend your post. You've got it in a nutshell. We the People are disenfranchised and have been for some time. It's crossed my mind more than once that Americans who don't vote and don't bother with politics are perhaps simply aware of the truth.

Welcome to DU, dos pelos.

[Doctor_J]

21. Have you been paying attention the last month?

we MIGHT get a minimum wage increase. Meanwhile the Middle East carnage goes on unchecked.

[Norquist Nemesis]

28. Because he and the GOP are sandwiching the Majority

The Democrats only have a slim majority and until we have a veto-proof one, the WH can (and will) continue to control. The Min Wage bill is one example: Fillibuster by the GOP. If it ever got to a vote it could very well pass, but Bush can veto the bill knowing that there are not enough votes to override it.

Just as he has a record-breaking number of signing statements to "clarify" :eyes: the bills from a Con Majority Congress (with only ONE veto), he's likely to have a record-breaking number of vetoes for the Democratic Majority Congress. It's going to be a "Give me what I want or I'll veto your ass! I'M the De-signer in Chief!" Hell, he probably ordered extra special pens with red ink for that special touch!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

29. So what?

Can't the Dems at least go on record as opposing our own little Mussolini?

[Norquist Nemesis]

31. Sure they can but that wasn't what was asked

By passing the bills and resolutions they do go on the record. But he/she was asking how it is that a Democratic majority is powerless.

[bdamomma]

40. you know there is only one * (thank god) or two (Cheney) and there

are many of us, do we really want this maniac to take us down with him?? I only wish we were like Europeans who camp out in front of their rulers residence and not let up until they consent to the peoples wishes, but we are dealing with someone who is mentally unstable.

[liberal renegade]

68. He does whatever he wants

because he's a spoiled, rotten, little prick. Oh, and he's also an evil bastard who comes from very bad seed.

[bdamomma]

5. we all should know by now, that * does whatever he damn well

pleases, remember he thinks with his gut, Sy Hersh is only but one person who is saying this, but don't we all know that we are dealing with a madman.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. I guess I'll have to fire a letter off to my senators and reps about this

ask them why they are allowing this to happen?

[femrap]

12. I really wish more people would realize this

'madman diagnosis' so we could start The Press talking about the 25th Amendment....I think this is a quicker and less messy way of getting rid of *. The script: He's back on the bottle and therefore incapable of making decisions. Rehab is the only solution.

I think everyone would buy it...

[bdamomma]

42. the 25th Amendment should play into this, so invoke the

25th and Cheney is getting grilled in the Libby case, two birds with one stone. I hope this Libby trial will go right up the ladder right to the Unitary Executive or whatever they call themselves. Invoke the 25th Amendment and let's be serious about it.

[femrap]

54. I think it's the least time-consuming

method. I don't think our nation can withstand 2 more years of him.

Look at the Executive Order he just wrote....the man thinks he's a dictator.

Send him to Rehab!

[Contrite]

76. Let's get rid of Dick first. n/t

[KansDem]

15. "...remember he thinks with his gut"

He thinks he's "the dictator" chosen by God. Hard combination to beat...

This megalomaniac can be stopped with a real media. But as long as they continue to report on dead horses, sex-change operations, and "news" about statements from the Iraqi insurgents "who are thrilled at the prospect of a Dem-controlled Congress," we will have a tougher time replacing the current criminal cabal.

[tblue37]

19. Don't forget that Hillary can't carry a tune, and her joke was

misinterpreted. This is the "political" news the media whores run with.

[Windy]

24. and look back in history. There have been EVIL men who

claim to be for democracy, but do nothing but pervert the system to gain power. If you don't think that Bush and more importently Cheney are cut from the same cloth, the I suggest you conduct a review of history for yourself!

We are in deep trouble.

[progressivebydesign]

32. Bush, not wanting to be a failure, is more frightening now than ever.

His obsession with not being considered a failure as a president, is going to drive him to do stupid, stupid, things. And his self-centered PNAC pals will USE Bush's mental weaknesses of extreme ego, insecurity, and bitterness, to drive their own agenda: Iran and Syria. Nothing is scarier than a man with all that power and no conscience.

[peacetalksforall]

10. " ..... Iranian books clean." How do you interpret this sentence?

"This is a guy who wants to leave office with the Iranian books clean."

This implies revenge. They can't mean the hostage situation because Republicans profited. They negotiated with the Iranians who were in charge and won the Presidency for RR? How could they improve on that?

This could imply safety for Israel by eliminating nuclear capabilities?

Here is Hirsch quoting the UN - saying what our own NSC has said - Iran is 8-10 years away.

ANd we have massive strike forces already there and headed there.

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Either Congress will have to drag the psycho's ass out of the WH or, as Sy states, the MILITARY

will have to refuse orders. Gates certainly isn't going to be better..."The Senate resolution will 'embolden' the insurgents." kinda says it all, no?

[Ganja Ninja]

14. "making an order that the military will object to."

Lets hope that the worst thing that will happen. This guy reminds me of Hitler and how he handled Stalingrad. That's what we're headed for and that's when this dumb ass will try to go nuclear.
He's failed at everything in his life. He's embarrassed himself in front of the whole world in Iraq. Now I think he's bound and determined not to come out a failure even if he has to kill tens of millions in the process.

[Windy]

25. Agreed!! n/t

[Adelante]

27. The military is not equipped to do this

It's too bulky, too conservative and too tied into the MIC. Individual soldiers in the field refusing orders would take to long to sink in to the national consciousness. It's got to be Congress, I think. They're the only ones who can pull it off and it's their responsibility.

[NewJeffCT]

33. Hersh didn't mean about enlisted military refusing orders

He is talking about men at the level of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or very close to that level... when it was leaked that the Joint Chiefs all opposed the Bush-McCain-Lieberman escalation in Iraq, it was really big news, as those types of men don't usually let their opinions be known if they disagree with the president.

If those men came out & rebuked Bush in public - maybe with former Joint Chiefs standing behind them - it would be what Hersh is talking about

[Adelante]

34. I was talking about the two levels, though

The ones with the MIC problem are that level you mention. You could get some, I am sure, but I think it wouldn't be a large group. They'd have to retire first. Congress has to do it. They're the ones with the responsibility. They have to be willing to break balls over this. They seem finally ready, too.

[MilesColtrane]

36. "making an order that the military will object to."

I suspect Sy's referring to an ordered air strike using nuclear weapons.

I pray that there are some true patriots in the Pentagon who would disobey such an order. But, I'm not optomistic about that, given that following orders is one of the main things driven into recruits.

...that, and Bush's tendency to "retire" any brass that doesn't agree with his insane policies.

[Ezlivin]

38. "[A]n ordered air strike using nuclear weapons..."

While there are plenty of patriots who would disobey such an order, the DoD and Pentagon are now strongly influenced if not controlled by fundamentalist zealots who believe that Armageddon must occur before Jesus returns in glory. There are plenty of "Christians" who would gladly rain nuclear weapons across the Middle East (with the exception of the Promised Land, Israel).

Make no mistake: There are plenty of people in our government who are absolutely hungry for Armageddon.

[leveymg]

53. The military has ALREADY objected - Hersh knows that.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact

THE IRAN PLANS
Would President Bush go to war to stop Tehran from getting the bomb?
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
Issue of 2006-04-17
Posted 2006-04-08

SNIP

The lack of reliable intelligence leaves military planners, given the goal of totally destroying the sites, little choice but to consider the use of tactical nuclear weapons. “Every other option, in the view of the nuclear weaponeers, would leave a gap,” the former senior intelligence official said. “ ‘Decisive’ is the key word of the Air Force’s planning. It’s a tough decision. But we made it in Japan.”

He went on, “Nuclear planners go through extensive training and learn the technical details of damage and fallout—we’re talking about mushroom clouds, radiation, mass casualties, and contamination over years. This is not an underground nuclear test, where all you see is the earth raised a little bit. These politicians don’t have a clue, and whenever anybody tries to get it out”—remove the nuclear option—“they’re shouted down.”

The attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings inside the offices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, he added, and some officers have talked about resigning. Late this winter, the Joint Chiefs of Staff sought to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans for Iran—without success, the former intelligence official said. “The White House said, ‘Why are you challenging this? The option came from you.’ ”

The Pentagon adviser on the war on terror confirmed that some in the Administration were looking seriously at this option, which he linked to a resurgence of interest in tactical nuclear weapons among Pentagon civilians and in policy circles. He called it “a juggernaut that has to be stopped.” He also confirmed that some senior officers and officials were considering resigning over the issue. “There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries,” the adviser told me. “This goes to high levels.” The matter may soon reach a decisive point, he said, because the Joint Chiefs had agreed to give President Bush a formal recommendation stating that they are strongly opposed to considering the nuclear option for Iran. “The internal debate on this has hardened in recent weeks,” the adviser said. “And, if senior Pentagon officers express their opposition to the use of offensive nuclear weapons, then it will never happen.”

SNIP

If we see resignations among the Joint Chiefs of Staff, run for the hills. But, absent that, this is just sabre-rattling and psywars. - Mark

[Pharaoh]

16. If ever there was a time in our Nations history

For the military to refuse orders from the President,this would be it.

[Adelante]

22. Actually that should be Congress

Refusing the orders. It should have been done years ago.

I don't have a link at the moment, I just saw this a few minutes ago at dkos, but this is from one of the 2004 primary debates:

"...This administration's preemptive doctrine is causing North Korea and Iran to accelerate their nuclear weapons development. Now there are some of us who aren't in Washington right now, but I'd like to ask all those who are...lets see some leadership in the United States Congress. Let's see you take apart that doctrine of preemption now. I don't think we can wait until November 2004 to change the administration on this threat. We're marching into another military campaign in the Middle East. We need to stop it."

Just think about this: ".. we can wait until November 2004"

And now we're moving toward 2008. Something's got to give immediately, like right this minute, and Congress is the only possible hope.

[saltpoint]

20. I agree with babylonsister and others here about Hersh. If it's got

his name on it, it's an article I'm going to pay close attention to.

As for the little ego monkey Dubya: the faster the reckless fool drives, the greater the odds that he lessens his reaction time if a deer suddenly bounds across the road.

By pig-headedly refusing to negotiate with Syria and Iran, he reduces his chances of success, reduces his possible variables to formulate a negotiated resolution. As Kurt Vonnegut puts it, "If you limit your choices, you lower your odds."

History isn't very sympathetic with fools. I think Hersh's warning is well-taken, but I think Dubya is asking for a sharp reverse of his political fortunes. When your presidency starts to make Bush Senior's presidency look halfway respectable, you probably suck.

[seafan]

26. "This is a guy who wants to leave office with the Iranian books clean," Hersh said of Bush.

....a very chilling statement regarding the speed of *'s murderous intent toward Iran.

I am praying we can stop him in time. We must be vigilant in our efforts to pressure Congress to act for immediate impeachment of both * and Cheney.

Time is running out.



Another http://media.www.tuftsdaily.com/media/storage/paper856/news/2007/01/30/News/Journalist.Sy.Hersh.Has.Harsh.Words.For.Bush-2685555-page2.shtml?sourcedomain=www.tuftsdaily.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com">clip from the piece, Journalist Sy Hersh has harsh words for Bush, January 30, 2007:

.....

Hersh said that not even negative press coverage has slowed the administration. "They couldn't care less about what we write. They're immune, inured to what The New York Times can write, what The New Yorker can write," he said.
Still, with hindsight on the war, he said the fourth estate should have pushed the administration harder on the intelligence concerning Iraq. "We in the press really failed you," he said. "We've missed the moral story. We all missed it."

.....

Hersh also told stories about his inside view as a reporter, including his place in the events surrounding Abu Ghraib.
When researching the Abu Ghraib story, he said that a young woman had contacted him - one of her family members had just returned from Iraq, much changed.
"(The soldier) was completely different: sullen, withdrawn, clinically depressed. She left her family, left her husband," the relative told Hersh.


In an interview with Hersh, the relative recalled the soldier had taken a portable computer for games and movies to Iraq, but left it behind for others' use after she returned to the states.
A look at the hard drive found a folder marked "Iraq" which contained images of an Arab prisoner naked, hands suspended in the air. In the sequence of pictures, he is attacked by dogs.
"It's bloody and beyond belief," Hersh said.


The relative had one more insight about the soldier for Hersh, several months after the fact.
" 'I didn't tell you one thing,'" the woman told him. "(She) then went off to live by herself (and) every weekend began getting tattooed. She filled everything, her body, her face. It was as if she was trying to change her skin.'"


"You will not believe what's going to be happening in the next few years with returning vets," Hersh said.

[blogslut]

70. That bit at the end

"You will not believe what's going to be happening in the next few years with returning vets," Hersh said.

It's gonna be bad with the Iraq vets. Way bad.

[progressivebydesign]

30. I was just wondering when we'd hear from Sy again.

He's so incredible, it's like a voice in the fog. I totally agree with him.. and he's said all along that Iran then Syria, is next. WTF hasn't ABC or CBS or CNN COVERED the whole PNAC thing? The thing that's driving Bush's actions???

[fooj]

35. I love Sy, too. What he is saying REALLY scares me.

:scared:

[judaspriestess]

37. remove radical and insert

ASSHOLE below

"He's a total radical, probably the most radical president we've ever had in terms of his definition of the power of the presidency," he said. "There's nothing more dangerous than a radical who doesn't have information, doesn't learn from information and doesn't learn from the past."

[springhill]

39. What amazes my about Hersh's commentary however........

is that he always states that they really believe they are protecting us, that there beliefs are noble. Has he not read PNAC? It has nothing to do with nobility, security of the United States. or any other noble cause. It has to do with power, plain and simple.

[shance]

45. The jury is out on Sy Hersh. Something doesn't quite gel with him

I continue to wonder why Hersh is canonized by those that believe he is a step down from God?

I don't find him impressive by his thickly veiled rationalizations of what this incredibly destructive abusive Administration is doing to our nation.

Why is that impressive?

Hersh seems to, in a sense justify and rationalize the abusers actions, and states we should essentially just hang it up for the next two years, 'sit back and enjoy it', and let them gain more power in the next two years. You want to talk about unstoppable then? The cement will have dried by that time. There will be nothing we can do then.

Is he enabling them?

Also, Hersh was a proponent of the JFK/Oswald conclusion (correct me if I'm wrong) and was vehement in claiming there was no conspiracy.

What's wrong with this picture?

[Pirate Smile]

41. We are definitely headed toward a constitutional crisis.

[MzNov]

46. We passed Constitutional crisis quite a while ago.

What's scariest to me is that we the People are trying to do all the right things to get the message to our congresspeople that we want this nut job OUT NOW. We send letters, email, phone calls, now we're marching. But every day we open HuffPo or Raw Story to find another frightening act that Bush has done, and Congress is still not getting the message that we want ACTION, not words.

Bush is not going to change. Bush has already committed many crimes. Bush keeps doing what he wants and 600 people in the House and Senate are still TALKING about toothless resolutions. He could have been and should have been removed years ago.

It might just be that it will be too late soon.

:patriot:

[Raydawg1234]

51. We've been in a Constitutional crisis ever since Bush went around the FISA courts.

it's just that the media didn't seem to notice.

[RestoreGore]

43. Bush is not rational. Invoke the 25 the amendment n/t .

[ananda]

49. Gates is irrelevant. It's Cheney.

I think Cheney is the most evil influence on the planet, with Bush as his willing stooge.
Bush is the most powerful and dangerous of course, but he's just playing out the agenda of his corporate masters and cronies.

If they aren't stopped stat, this country and the world are virtually doomed.

Sue

[MasonJar]

55. We must all contact our reps and tell that they are history if they

allow this. Even my ignorant senator, Mitch McConnell, today was on the front page of the Courier Journal saying that the Iraqis only have 6 to 9 months. Someone has gotten to Mitch; he has to run in 08. Not that we will ever be able to get rid of him; he has solidified his power with too many favors.

[earth mom]

57. WTF?! We are NOT powerless! Impeach NOW! nt

[lovuian]

59. Sy is right Bush is beyond talking too

I think a National Strike would stop their butts
pops in the suggestion box

[westerebus]

81. Works for me.

You can call it a strike, I'd prefer a national day of prayer, who can say no to prayer? The repubs can't! Which will make them even crazier then they are now.
If you want to IMPEACH then go for the AG Gonzales. Pull that cog out of the machine and watch what happens. Nixon started going down after Agnew resigned. Cheney is co president and isn't going to resign. Got to start some where. And soon.

[potisok]

60. A must read and repeat, thank you Sy Hersh

[AikidoSoul]

64. God bless Sy Hersh for telling us what is really going on

and thank all of those in the military and DoD who are appalled and frightened at what is going on, who reach out to Hersh with the details.

This administration must be removed from office soon before they destroy the entire planet.

K and R

[and-justice-for-all]

67. Tell your Rep to Support HR 508!!!!!!!!!!!nt

[proud patriot]

69. shivers

:scared:

[roguevalley]

73. so ... can we say hitler yet?

[tavalon]

77. Radical, schmadical

He's a sociopathic lunatic, a silver spooned Ted Bundy.

[Kurovski]

78. Impeach.

Impeach.

[coznfx]

79. Impeach NOW.

[zanne]

83. We're all on a big bus...

With a drunk at the wheel.