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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:43 PM
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With all I hear about jobs being outsourced , what will be left ?
Ohio chic lists all the jobs being sent away . This is astonishing and quite scary . tens of thousands of jobs gone and nothing to stop this .

So I suppose soon many will all be out there homeless with tents since many of us have not the resource to simply overcome no job living paycheck to paycheck you are out of luck .

While they taut all these new jobs where the hell are they ? What the hell are they .

It seems to me between this Iraq war and our economy we are being forced to be poor and without hope ending up to kill for a job for min wage and live where , in a tent ?

Damn this country and damn these companies , damn them all to hell .

Soon we will be better off bombed to death than slowly starve or freeze to death , perhaps this is what they want , population reduction by design .
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:50 PM
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1. They'll wipe us out with that Pentagon superbug noted in Raw Story. nt
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:51 PM
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2. "Would you like fries with that?"
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:51 PM
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3. Hey, the Dems have only been in charge of Congress for a little bit...
Let's give them a chance to get their act together and get serious about repairing our economy.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 03:16 PM
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7. Not to be critical here at all
I have to really wonder how they or anyone can possibly bring these jobs back . So if they tax them for importing the crap made in China the taxes will be less than the money they save on labor alone .

I can't see how new fair paying jobs can be created these days or fast enough to turn this around .

In all fairnes I really don;t see a solution to slow this down and bring in a fair wage . What incentive will companies have and if other countries such as those in Asia and no this includes Vietnam with even cheaper labor where this is where the jobs will go .

Those who can't find jobs now are out of time and already screwed .

It's easy for those in the house to sit and while away making plans when they are not effected directly by this huge concern .
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:52 PM
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4. They won't say anything ...
until they feel it themselves...I have been talking about this for the past two to three years and everyone who feels comfortable seems to believe the Bushit,they are lying about 4.3% unemployment. Now that the dems are in charge Bernanke is trying to slowly leak out info as though this has just begun..,


I have said all along while dumbass is in Iraq this country is falling apart and before long there will be a war in the streets of america if they don't stop this crazy ass. I hear of layoffs every month and those in the media have been let go some were crying last year but you never hear anything on the MSM but a blurp...
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:57 PM
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5. Military! Endless war.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 03:07 PM
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6. Can't we just sell each other houses with lots of printed cash, its worked for the past 3 years..
In all seriousness what you will see is more white collar jobs going offshore or onshore. Gradually the standard of living for all Americans will lower and countries like India and China will raise to some degree with us meeting somewhere in the middle. This will take a couple of generations, long enough that when it happens there won't be enough people around to remember the good ole days.

Long, long term as fuel starts to get scarce there could be a retooling of manufacturing here.

Of course a plague or something would shake that all up, its really all about the scarcity of labor. As the boomers retired you SHOULD have seen a rise in wages as employers either fought to keep the boomers working or had to compete more for younger workers, however this isn't happening do to variables such as onshore/offshore.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 03:35 PM
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8.  I don't see longterm anything .
The way bush keeps poking at Iran to provoke them we may not have long term to look at . Certainly this will thin out the number of job seekers here in the USA .

I am already a old boomer barely hanging on to a cliffs edge and I don't see any job I can get to be anything but a poverty club member anymore and retirement looks like a box or tent home with cat food select .
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 03:54 PM
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9. we'll all work on the plantations of the CEOs
I'm not really joking.

The super-wealthy will likely live in gated communities and the great unwashed masses will live to tend their gardens and landscaping, fix their HVAC systems, tune up their cars, cook their food, clean their homes and so on and so forth.

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 04:07 PM
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10. A Lengthy, but Interesting Read
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x258451


'Why the US should be worried'
London, January 4, 2007

You always think that the United States of America is the only real superpower in the current world. Well… soon you may have to rethink about it. The "real superpower" title is going to become the mother of all lies and conspiracy theories that the world have had ever known. Don't accept it? Read the following facts and think again:

From the beginning of this 21st century, the United States is facing competition from beyond its borders as well as internal difficulties. Its lower and middle class families are slowly turning out to be the biggest losers of current globalisation. The United States, like ancient Rome, is beginning to be plagued by the limits of its power.

The current globalisation is heavily affecting its economy. In fact, the US has actively promoted the worldwide exchange of commodities like no other nation, and the result is that their local manufacturing industries have begun to be eroded.

Some manufacturing sectors such as furniture, consumer electronics, automobile part suppliers and computer manufacturers have had left the country for good. In the recent past, free trade has primarily benefited the very rival countries that are now mounting a heavy economic offence on the United States and the rival countries have cut off a large slice of America's global market share.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1887880,0093.htm


<snip> Almost no one is saving any money in the United States today. Saving rates are very low or negative. The US debt grows by about $1.5 billion every weekday and has now reached about $6.5 trillion dollars. Private household debt has reached $11 trillion and 50 per cent of these debts have been incurred since 1998. The Americans are enjoying the present spending spree at the cost of their own future and future generations. The fact is that the expanding consumer debt drives the US economy.

Half the world is very impressed by the low levels of unemployment in the United States. Only the other half clearly knows very well that these statistics may be the result of a voluntary telephone survey. Is working just ten hours per week enough for one to be classified as "employed"? The US statistics is usually intended to create more positive image and opinion than about its actual condition. The net reality is that the US job growth rate is falling behind its own population growth.

A country that cannot create jobs for its own population is not a superpower.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 04:09 PM
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11. we'll all be delivering pizzas to each other...
and/or wiping the asses of the ultra-ultra-riche.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 04:12 PM
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12. The only jobs left would be in the service industry...
and even those jobs are becoming obsolete. Look how we can now check ourselves out at Wal-Mart, Home Depot, and BJ's Wholesale Club.

I know Dems back Bush's Guest Worker Program, but I think that's just a way of out-sourcing jobs you can't send across our borders.

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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 04:17 PM
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13. You sound like some sort of Luddite
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 04:29 PM
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14. Damn the people in the Third World, also, for stealing our jobs.
If they cannot grow their own economies by growing their own economies (pull themselves up by their bootstraps), to Hell with them. If they cannot build their own factories and businesses because they lack the expertise or the capital, let them stew in their poverty. Until they figure out a way to build their own factories which then sell products to their own people, too bad. They do not live within our borders and do not matter.

How dare they build factories using our (corporate) money and then export some of their products to the US? Our farms and factories have historically never exported anything that was,or could be, produced locally in other countries.

I'll stop now since I am starting to scare myself with all of this redneck talk. Look I know that for electoral purposes Americans are all that matter because they are the votes. But let us not forget that people in other countries are part of humanity, too.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 04:57 PM
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15. I saw nothing in the OP's post
regarding anyone "stealing our jobs." :eyes:

However, I did read:
"Damn this country and damn these companies."
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:29 PM
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16. The "damn"ing thing is what got me started.
The blame was put on domestic sources "country" and "companies", but the ultimate beneficiaries are the multinational corporations and foreign workers. Is it legitimate to ask if there is an acceptable balance of policies that may benefit poor foreign workers, but at some cost to American workers?

I certainly do not want to leave such a policy balance up to Republicans or corporations, but is there a progressive view on this?
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:06 PM
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18.  I feel it was american companies who started this
All of the giant american corporations started this bleeding effect .

They have been outsourcing for years and this keeps accelerating and building momentum .

Japan took this idea on as well , they used to make sony and many other products in Japan now it is Taiwan and ROC where the labor is cheaper .

We as american workers are being sold out .

First there were the mergers where one company like black and decker bought out many other companies and then sorted through the product lines and kept the best and scraped the rest and have their own brand name as cheap imports . A well known brand name means nothing , hasn't for years . GE = garbage now unless it's weapons .

The entire thing is a massive un-stopable disaster now .

I suppose we could have stopped this when just a few american companies outsourced and we would have paid attention and not bough from outsourced american goods and paid a bit more for products still made in america , this would have sent a signal that the people are on to this and killed it , now it is done and far too late .

No one is stealing our jobs across the ocean , they were sent there through deals .
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:04 PM
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17. Food processing
Because of the government's promotion of agriculture in the United States, food processing is not going to go away. Not to say there might not be job cuts, as large companies buy larger plants and plants with ancient machinery buy less labor intense machinery.
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