David Frum on GOP: Now We Work for Fox

[kpete]

Source: ABC

David Frum on GOP: Now We Work for Fox

March 23, 2010 12:19 PM

Moran: "It sounds like you're saying that the Glenn Becks, the Rush Limbaughs, hijacked the Republican party and drove it to a defeat?"

Frum: "Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we're discovering we work for Fox. And this balance here has been completely reversed. The thing that sustains a strong Fox network is the thing that undermines a strong Republican party."

Our report posed the question: Will Democrats pay a price for pushing through health care at any cost? Or are Republicans the ones in trouble for the way they chose to fight?

We know where Frum stands.

Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/nightlinedailyline/2010/03/david-frum-on-gop-now-we-work-for-fox.html

[BrklynLiberal]

1. The repukes will not listen to Frum since he is not telling them what they want to hear.

On Edit. I did not realize that the "Moran" that was asking the question was a person's name. LOL I thought that was a subjective description of the type of person asking the question. :blush: :rofl:

[tridim]

3. I'd also like to know Frum's real agenda.

I don't think it has anything to do with Democrats suceeding or Republicans failing.

[protocol rv]

4. Fox fuels extremism in the Republican Party

Remember, the Republicans are becoming a marginalized party because they no longer call themselves Republican. Today they're Tea Partiers, or Conservatives. And this is a serious drawback, an extremist party is doomed to fail.

[Proletariatprincess]

6. I think you just answered tridim question.....

[gkhouston]

10. But an extremist party makes for great television, and extremist politicians

are more exciting to watch than ones who actually explain (ack, barf) policy.

[Winterblues]

34. Ratings...Pretty much sums up what the Republicans stand for now..

Everything is for show.. Nothing at all for America and it's citizens..

[malaise]

8. Jeb Bush

for 2016 - nothing more, nothing less.

[Arkana]

16. I think he's just another shellshocked Bushie who doesn't like the direction

his party has taken.

[davepc]

19. Frum is good at electoral math. He realizes the current track of the GOP is a dead-end.

He's been exiled and ostracized for speaking out against current GOP/conservative policy. It doesn't make him a friend of Democrats, but if Republicans start to listen to him it makes them a bit more viable then they would otherwise be.

I don't trust him any further then I can throw him, but he is anti-extremist...at least compared to the tea party types.

[No Elephants]

28. George W. Bush was an extremist.

[Ex Lurker]

5. oh, they've turned on him completely

they were tearing him apart on a right wing board I check periodically.

[Uncle Joe]

18. It's both, you can't lose on that one. n/t

[babylonsister]

2. Wow. That's brave of Frum. Someone had to tell the truth finally. I

bet there will now be more who speak out.

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. Yes, finally one of them admits to what everyone here knew. FAUX was meant to be

a tool of propaganda.

[No Elephants]

29. +1 (Probably an inadvertent revelation on his part)

[FarLeftFist]

7. Frum is a disaster capitalist but he has a point.

[No Elephants]

30. So does a knife. I don't trust him. nt

[Cha]

9. Hey, he could not be speaking out about

hateradio and fauxsn00ze propaganda. I'm glad he is.

The republicons chose the kristol method of '93 but it wasn't really much of a choice being who they are.

[ThomWV]

11. Frum can be quite lucid in his candid moments - problem is you can never tell if its an illusion

Frum is a real master of propaganda, he himself makes no qualms about it and the man is not blowing a bent horn. However over the years I've heard him make candid observations about his own Party that were revealing at least and just plain astounding at their best. He is worth listening to, but be careful - its like admiring a poisonous snake.

[No Elephants]

31. Bingo. I don't trust him!

[Dappleganger]

12. Republicans completely dismiss anything Frum says because he was just a staffer

and not elected. Even if he'd been elected he'd be dismissed. Nobody over there wants to listen to the truth about their party.

[Cass]

14. That was interesting commentary from Frum about Fox News.

Beck and the other extremists at Faux are driving the agenda of the republican party via the Tea Party movement. There is no room in the republican party anymore for moderates. I wouldn't care except I worry that it will lead to violence.

[elehhhhna]

15. AND WHO OWNS FOX? An Aussie Nazi & Saudi Prince Alawallawhatshisname.

Don't let them forget THAT.

[spanone]

17. how long till faux runs a candidate?

[No Elephants]

32. How long til the SCOTUS lets FOX run AS a candidate?

[Danger Mouse]

20. The GOP created a monster and thought they could control it, only to find...

the monster controls them.

[tom_paine]

21. 21st Century American Corporatists, meet the 1930s German Industrialists

n/t

[Danger Mouse]

22. but who is their hitler?

[NNN0LHI]

24. 'Fascism will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible.' ~ Sinclair Lewis, circa 1935

[tom_paine]

25. Pray they never find one, for the last 30 years of Bushification has totally denuded

our nation's defenses against Nazification, if we go in that direction.

Gleichschaltung across military, law enforcement, media, and intelligence lines is largely completed.

I think we still have some honest agents in the middle and lower echelons of the FBI, but beyond that, if Bushification leads to some form of Nazification (under a new brand name, of course, for if there's one thing the Bushies are good at, it's marketing and rebranding), as I believe it must, most if not all government institutions will fall into line.

[Scurrilous]

23. K & R

:thumbsup:

[TomCADem]

26. Frum Can Occasionally Be Candid Even If He Is Often Wrong

The fact that Rush and Beck are the ideological touch-stone of the Republican party with Fox News talking points substituting for policy shows where the GOP is. They are all about the craven pursuit of power.

[Fuzz]

27. The Republicans fed the beast and it's now turning on them.

[No Elephants]

33. Maybe Shrum's only trying to have it both ways. If you love Fox, fine. If you don't, it's not

really representing Republicans. It's off on its own now.