Do you think this is cruel?

[CatWoman]

[berni_mccoy]

1. Yes. PETA is continuously going over the top. They need new marketing people there.

[knitter4democracy]

2. Yes. Especially for her oldest.

Sure, they're cute now (though obviously crying and upset at not getting their needs met fast enough), but what about when they're teens? I teach at an alternative high school, and I seriously wonder how she'll be able to keep up with their teachers and homework and extra-curriculars, etc.

[BrklynLiberal]

3. She probably ok'd it as long as they were willing to pay her.

I agree..people should not be giving birth to litters...

[flvegan]

9. She got $5k to put a sign in her yard.

Nothing wrong with that.

[JuniperLea]

4. That poor pile of crying babies...

Yes, infants need and deserve more individual attention to thrive, physically and emotionally. To pose with a pile of crying infants is pretty damn sickening. Yes, cruel is a word I'd use for that pathetic action.

Doesn't she hold the copyright on that name? Did PETA pay her for its use?

[demwing]

21. and thats not any more a pile of crying babies than a pile of none crying babies

8 of them there - 4 crying, 4 just chilling...

Why did you let your bias choose your words?

[JuniperLea]

24. My maternal instincts chose my words...

Four crying babies is still too much. Piling them all up, crying or not, for a photo op, is disgusting. No wonder the child labor folk are after her.

[demwing]

26. I have to say that the boy between the two girls (look closely, he's there)

appears smoosh faced. Not comfy.

Still, I think you're over reacting. Disgusting is too strong for this, and you assume it's just for the pic - this may be the way they chill out.

It can't be easy ... one day she'll need 8 baby leashes, and she'll look like a professional dog walker.

Wait till PETA get a pic of that.

[JuniperLea]

27. I have three kids...

And I've helped raise at least a dozen more. I worked part-time in a home daycare situation when my kids were first starting school (half days in early elementary school). I'm the oldest of 20 grandchildren, and babysat most of my younger cousins and siblings. Had I ever piled up a bunch of babies like that, there would have been trouble... serious trouble.

I don't feel I was overreacting... in fact, I feel like I held back quite a bit. Those kids are getting seriously short-changed... they are more than likely going to be emotionally challenged (at best) and the older children being forced to care for little ones are going to miss out on their own childhood.

No, the more I think about it, the more I feel I held back... and still am.

How many kids have you had primary responsibility for? This may be a case wherein perspective is everything.

[demwing]

28. three boys, 1 grandchild

and I recently had a 9 year old son die of cancer during home hospice care. Before he died, he lost the use of his bladder and bowells. I had to drain him multiple times daily with a catheter, and give him daily enemas. I also had to keep his spirits up as his body failed him.

One day, he stopped breathing, and I brought him back with CPR. The second time it happened, three weeks later, he didn't come back.

I may not be superdad, but I think I've learned alot about caring for children.

[JuniperLea]

29. I'm so sorry for your loss...

Losing a child must be the worst thing in the world... I can't imagine... my mind quite literally will not let me go there.

Still, caring for one or three is very different than having a house of 10.

You are superdad... really... I'm having a hard time arguing with you:) What you did for your boy is a wonderful thing.

[Arctic Dave]

5. No.

[bigwillq]

6. No.

Her life. Her body. Her choice. I am against getting in vitro if you don't have any issues getting pregnant, which, I don't believe was the case for this woman. I don't think this was necessary for her, and I also have to blame the doctor. There's always a risk of multiple births if one goes the in vitro route.

On edit: No, I don't think the ad is cruel, either.

[branders seine]

7. not even.

They should do another one and turn it around. Show a responsibly neutered dog or spayed cat and this picture of the octomom freak, with a headline: "Someone should have spayed her."

[underpants]

8. Is he waterboarding one of them with the formula?

Thank YOU George W Bush

:grr:

[CatWoman]

11. you are such a fucking nut

:rofl:

[Electric Monk]

12. LOL, looks like, now that you mention it

As to the original question in the OP, I also say no.

[Ms. Toad]

33. I hadn't thought of waterboarding

but I did wonder why he was feeding the kid's forehead.

[Alamuti Lotus]

10. Yes, it is very cruel to society and the kids to have that many

particularly when she seems utterly incapable of dealing with herself.

Oh, you meant the ad.. no, that's just funny.

[polichick]

13. This can't be a real ad. (I feel sorry for ALL of her children.) nt

[CatWoman]

16. it is a real ad

[polichick]

17. Well, it definitely makes the point. nt

[Fleshdancer]

14. Cruel isn't the word I would use...

I think it's the wrong comparison. As much as I disagree with her choices, she's taking care of her kids and her situations was highly unique...unlike the issue with pets needing to be spayed or neutered. Unless I'm making the wrong assumption, I don't believe she thought she would end up with that many embryos when she started this process.

If I were to choose a family who is purposefully over producing, I would go after the Duggars. Isn't that more parallel with the message that PETA is attempting with this ad? Domestic animals who breed again and again? Not just one big litter?

[seabeyond]

15. yes. ooops. you meant peta. well, i just saw the picture of woman, all the babies and little boy

and yes, i think what this woman is doing to each adn every one of those children is.... cruel

[leeroysphitz]

18. That is AWESOME. n/t

[demwing]

19. Cruel? Nah Stupid? Sure

Peta...sheesh

[liberalmuse]

20. No. Not when it's about choice.

PETA can go overboard at times, but not this time.

[tonysam]

31. They go overboard ALL the time. They oppose animal domestication

and that's why they're big on spaying and neutering pets. They don't think they should exist.

[walldude]

22. Yeah to the children...

Those kids are going to be fucked up...

[Lone_Star_Dem]

23. Yes.

Especially to the little fellow smashed under her boobs and in-between the two baby girls in pink. He looks pretty miserable.

[Vattel]

25. I dunno about the human babies.

But I do feel that I was a bit cruel in having my cat neutered. Have you ever seen a mother cat with her kittens? The ones I've seen seem practically euphoric. I feel bad that I deprived my cat of the joys of kitty motherhood, but I also recognize that there are too many cats in the world.

[tonysam]

30. Tacky as shit, but that's PETA for you.

Once a dumbass organization, always a dumbass organization.

[demmiblue]

32. Although I do not like many of PETA's advertising stunts...

what is wrong with the message that people should spay or neuter their pet(s)?

:shrug:

[flvegan]

37. Considering who you're responding to?

PETA could feed the world and they'd still be worthy of hate.

[canetoad]

34. Reminds me of

my dogs brothers and sisters.

[RB TexLa]

35. I don't understand who it is supposed to be cruel toward.

[CatWoman]

36. the children

[tnlefty]

38. That a woman went out of her way to have so many infants

at one time with no way to be able to attend to their needs, nor hold them, nor much of anything else for any period of time, yes. She was paid for this ad campaign so if it's cruel, she inflicted it upon her kids.

However I firmly believe in spaying/neutering even though dogs and cats have more nipples and from what I've observed since childhood, have the ability to take care of litter from 4 up to 8 with less problems than multiple births in humans.:shrug:

I thought that she also had a set of twins, where are they?