Why I Hope J.D. Hayworth Defeats John McCain in the GOP Senatorial Primary

[WeDidIt]

1) It shows that ideological purity tests have become SOP in the GOP.

2) It doesn't matter what Republican gets sent D.C., they all vote the same (c.f. HCR)

3) Rejection of their own 2008 presidential candidate as "too liberal" demonstrates how far to the right the GOP has actually swung, and will have national consequences for years to com.

4) Hayworth would be more easily defeated in November than McCain.



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[The Northerner]

1. Are there any serious Dem challengers?

I agree it'll certainly cause a rift.

[JonLP24]

2. #4 is the only reason why I'd rather him win

If we were to be stuck with a Republican one way or the other give me McCain over that guy! :puke:

Because of this I have mixed feelings but I'm far more scared of Hayworth who happens to be my former Congressman.

[DesertFlower]

24. i agree. i'm in arizona too. nt

[saracat]

42. JD would likely win if he got the nomination and I would rather have McCain any day.

JD is certifiably crazy.

[grantcart]

32. too bad the Democrats aren't running anyone serious

[no_hypocrisy]

3. My prediction is if Hayworth beat McCain in the primaries,

Palin would be campaigning for him for November.

No loyalty except to herself.

[Hello_Kitty]

4. People thought Ev Mecham was too crazy to be elected here in 1986.

People were wrong.

I don't put anything past this stupid-ass state. I live here. :(

[HuckleB]

17. True. But the Dems were split with an independent candidate.

Still, it's hard to see the state going with a Dem for the Senate, unless enough people have also had enough of the GOP's shenanigan's in the state legislature.

[DesertFlower]

27. that was before i moved here, but

i was here on vacation when they impeached him.

it is a stupid ass state, but it's so beautiful here -- that's why i stay.

[Bobbieo]

33. Right on Kitty - so do I .This is a stupid ass state. Tucson is the most liberal area of the state.

and the Dems in my country are mostly conservatives. I'll bet most of them will vote for Hayworth.

[Cha]

5. I hear ya..plus mccain is parading that hatemonger

palin around.

mccain couldn't really be a bigger asshole, imv.

And, just maybe if they get a strong Dem to run in AZ..he could beat hayworth.

[azmouse]

6. I just don't think AZ has enough Democrats to defeat the Republican candidate.

We'll be stuck here with crap no matter which R wins the nom. :(

[NAO]

16. there are LOTS of Dems in AZ, they are just not in Maricopa County

AZ is NOT a "solid red" state. If you look at those graded/shaded maps you can see this very clearly.

Down in Tucson, it is predominately Democratic. And the same goes for the rest of Pima County, Santa Cruz county...just about everywhere except Phoenix & surrounding areas.

Not saying we could get a Democrat into the Senate, but we could try to oust McCain, to help eliminate the "apparently" moderate Repubs. They vote the same as the rabid nut-job ruthugs anyway.

[DesertFlower]

28. hubby was just saying earlier that tucson

is more democratic.

[JonLP24]

29. Yup

Without Maricopa County McCain wouldn't of even won his own state or it would be very close. I recall reading that but don't remember the exact details.

[HuckleB]

37. What percentage of the current AZ population lives in Maricopa County?

[JonLP24]

39. About 60%

As of July '08 for Maricopa:3,954,598 people
2009 estimate for the state:6,595,778

Though actual voting numbers may be different in comparison.

Alright take out the suburbs and leave Phoenix and McCain doesn't win. :) Phoenix is usually the Democratic part of the county.

[Bobbieo]

40. No - Not in Mormon territory!!!

[HuckleB]

19. Actually, you might be able to do it.

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/voter-registration-stats-for-az-include-third-party-figures/

I'm betting the Republican majority was greater back when DeConcini won the Senate race three times.

[DesertFlower]

26. sad, isn't it?

[grantcart]

36. McCain only won by 200,000 votes

Given that it was his home state that is very low number.



Republicans have only 100,000 more than Democrats

Republicans continue to dominate the voter rolls, with 1,137,262 voters, but the party posted the smallest percentage gain, up 1.7 percent.

Democrats were next, with 1,046,140 voters, up 2.3 percent.


http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/voter-registration-stats-for-az-include-third-party-figures/

[madmax]

7. Agreed

They both suck but, it's the Palin that pushes my button. :puke:

[spanone]

8. lose, lose situation

[MindandSoul]

9. Hayworth is even "worse" than McCain. . .so it should clarify

what poor choices of candidates the GOP consistantly makes!

Although I despise Hayworth. . .I'm with you!

[jaysunb]

10. Well, for me

I'd like to get his ass out of Washington and off the TV shows being treated like the "shadow" President. A defeat here should take care of that once and for all.
And, don't get me wrong, I loathe Hayworth. He is true scum. But it could be a double pleasure to see a Democrat whip his ass in the general election.

Talk about a triple play...WOW ! :evilgrin:

[Bobbieo]

31. I honesly do not believe there is a Democrat in this state -my state-

who can do it. I know Terry Goddard can't. And who is Rodney Glassman - the former vice-mayor of Tucson?

[jaysunb]

44. Understood...but

a guy can dream. :hi:

[Ineeda]

11. Same situation in Florida

Loony winger Rubio vs Charlie (still-in-the-closet) Crist, and not a very strong Dem in Red territory. <sigh>

[Dappleganger]

14. I try to not think about it. nt

[Swede]

12. J.D. Hayworth is a lot further rightwing than McCain.

Like someone above posted,lose lose situation.

[HuckleB]

21. And he's even dumber than the rest of the tea party nutjobs.

[MoonRiver]

13. I don't give a damn.

Just sayin'.

[Catshrink]

15. I'd love to see Palinism defeated.

Hayworth is an idiot - a talking manequin - but a McCain loss, when Palin has been campaigning for him, is a loss for her. Not that it matters with her $1 million/episode deal she got with Discovery Channel. Gramps can retire to one of Cindy's 7 houses.

As far as a Dem strong enough to defeat either of them in November - I don't think so. The only thing that might swing it our way is if a 3rd party candidate emerges that would Naderize the R nominee.

[Pharlo]

18. So, is it possible that if Hayworth gets the Republican primary,

that McCain might pull a Lieberman and run as an independent creating that '3rd party candidate'?

If so, Hayworth's win would be beneficial to the Democratic nominee.

[HuckleB]

20. Won't happen.

McCain would have to have the support of a lot of Dems in AZ. He does not.

[Catshrink]

22. Could be.

I don't know if McCain is as much of an egomaniac as Lieberman. Well, yes, I do -- he is. I could see that play out.

[LynneSin]

23. It'll make Palin looking like a fool supporting a losing candidate

She was better off not going to Arizona.

[pscot]

25. It would remove McCain from the public stage

He's become a really tiresome asshole and he gets far too much facetime on the networks.

[David__77]

30. Eh whatever...

I'd probably rather him win actually, for actuary reasons.

[grantcart]

34. Democrats aren't running anyone

some guy that used to be a mayor in California is running but he doesn't look strong at all.

5) It will teach the Democrats to always run a strong candidate.

6) It will be funny to see Palin's pick lose again.

[HuckleB]

38. It just doesn't make sense for them not to run a strong candidate.

I understand that they're pushing to regain state seats, but, still...

[saracat]

41. Rodney Glassman is a good candidate if he were supported but AZ Dems don't really support folks.

and it isn't as thought they even looked for an alternative.

[UTUSN]

35. K&R #4 for, AND then for J.D. to lose to a DemocratIC candidate!1 n/t

[K8-EEE]

43. And it would be such a burn on The Quitter!

And even if Hayworth wins the GOP goes down another notch in the eyes of the casually in-the-middle peeps, the guy is so fucking out there.

[rufus dog]

45. Isn't there a Udall kid, how about Babbitt's kids. If I recall he had sons

and they should be close to 35. The current Senators are just above Oklahoma and most of the Southern States. If you get JD you are neck and neck with the OK state.

In fact, where the hell is Babbitt? bring him out.

[saracat]

46. We ran Paul Babbitt a couple of years ago for Congress and a

worse candidate you couldn't imagine. He had the charisma of a small soap dish.And BTW, the Party thought the Babbitt name was golden, only to find out many folks in Flagstaff and the surrounding areas despised them. Go figure.