RW email needs a response

[Mz Pip]

I've done a search in the archives to see if this has been posted before and couldn't find anything. I checked snopes but the only comment was that it wasn't written by Pam Foster but by some columnist. I'm going to put together a response and want something as smart assed as this one. Thanks all.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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WOW . ?? is this laying it on the line or what?
>
> The lady who wrote this letter is Pam Foster of Pamela Foster and
Associates in Atlanta . She's been in business since 1980 doing interior design
and home planning. She recently wrote a letter to a family member serving in
Iraq . Read it!
>
> "Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not
started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?
>
> Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally
murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from our nation's
capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?
>
> Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible,
burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?
>
> And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated"
when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?
>
> Well, I don't. I don't care at all.
>
> I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents
for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.
>
> I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle Eaststart
caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia
>
> I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for
hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed
throat.
>
> I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraqcome out
and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in
mosques.
>
> I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search
of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide
bombs.
>
> I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First
Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the
United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.
>
> In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up
an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.
>
> When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have
been
humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured
that I don't care.
>
> When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told
not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank
that I don't care.
>
> When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat,
and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that
his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of
hearts that I don't care.
>
> And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran"
and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and ---- you guessed it - - I
don't care !

[oldtime dfl_er]

1. how about...

...and people ask why they hate us. Here's your answer.


http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/690908

[Wickerman]

2. Everyone needs to have Snopes.com bookmarked

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/foster.asp

[cynatnite]

3. I just lost 10% of my braincells...

Whoever wrote it sure does have their head pretty far up Rush's ass. :puke: Whoever had the audacity to email you that should be shamed for doing so at the very least. Blocking them is an option.

[FVZA_Colonel]

8. "When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have"

Considering that the author (who, according to Snopes, is not the person it is acredited to) seems to have bought this talking point hook-line-and sinker, they must have it up there pretty far.

[SheilaT]

4. Snopes is always your friend.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/foster.asp

I know this was discussed, or something very similar to it, some time back here on DU, but I don't want to take the time to try to find the earlier threads.

Crap like this is out there all the time. Do a blast back with a reply all to the email with the Snopes link, and anything else you care to add. I used to get garbage like this from people and it's quite astonishing how a few "reply alls" will stop them from including you in those mass emails.

[Mz Pip]

5. The snopes link

doesn't address the content of the email - it just says that it wasn't written by Pam Foster.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Warpy]

7. I do the same, but would add something

Whenever somebody has sent me some of this filth, I've replied with the Snopes link plus, "I prefer not to have my email inbox full of hate. If you send me any more of this hateful rubbish, I will put you on mail block."

Then do it.

Most people will delete your name from the list of self righteous assholes who think they're being educated by this stuff. The ones who don't take it seriously enough to delete your name aren't worth talking to.

[Mz Pip]

10. I get sent this

because I think he wants my opinion. I have made small gains with this person over the years. Small steps.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Parche]

6. right wing sludge

When the Republicans lose in November....well I dont care

When the Republicans whine about having to work more then 3days in Congress.....I really dont care


I will care when the great Democrats do more in 100hours then the Republicans have in 12years......

[baldguy]

9. A small group if fascists in America is directly responsible for the murder of 1 million Muslims.

and the torture of thousands more. They do it with your tax money and in your name, and are cheered on by some who claim to follow the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ.

If you wonder why "they" hate "us" it's because we murder their children.

If you don't care then you're not a Christian, not an American, and not a very good human being.

[rateyes]

11. Well, I don't really give a tinker's damn (don't care)

about whether the author of that piece of shit writing cares or not.

I CARE about whether the USA, known for its civil liberties and human rights, is now being seen as a rogue nation by our closest allies.

I CARE about the hundreds of thousands of innocent children who have died because the POTUS got a wild hair up his ass to lie us into a war that we cannot win, and has cost us our treasure in blood.

I CARE that people like this author seems to think that because America was attacked by BIN LADEN, that it was our duty to go into a sovereign nation and wage an illegal war of aggression against a country that wasn't involved in the attacks and that posed NO THREAT.

I CARE that my family members and friends are forced to put their lives on the line every day rebuilding a country that we tore apart.

I CARE about the dignity of humanity, and things like habeas corpus, due process and the rule of law as provided in the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES.

And, as far as what I don't care about...I DON'T GIVE A TINKER'S DAMN about anyone who would GIVE AWAY the liberties that NO TERRORIST COULD EVER TAKE AWAY FROM US, out of FEAR.

Patrick Henry said, "GIVE ME LIBERTY, OR GIVE ME DEATH!" He did NOT say, "HERE'S MY LIBERTY, NOW WILL YOU PLEASE KEEP ME SAFE?"

As far as I'm concerned, WHOEVER WROTE THAT...(and, I know it wasn't the woman from Atlanta, who nevertheless agrees with its sentiments)...can plant their rosy red lips on my rosy red ass!

[gratefultobelib]

12. Wow! Great response! May I copy and e-mail this? I'm not sure of the protocol here.

[rateyes]

13. Thanks, and yes,

of course.

[NanceGreggs]

14. Response:

"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not
started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?"

Are we fighting a war on terror? It seems more than apparent that we are fighting a war being waged on the Iraqi people - you know, the people we allegedly "liberated"? I guess because it was Islamic people who attacked on 9-11, we have to wage war on ALL Islamic people - just like we have to wage war on all Christians because some of them blow up abortion clinics. You can't be too careful these days.
>
> Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally
murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?

They sure were. Maybe that could have been avoided, had Bush and his administration buddies listened to the intelligence agents who warned them of the potential of such an event being imminent. I guess a briefing memo headed "Bin Laden Intent on An Attack in the United States" was just too vague to be taken seriously.
>
> Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible,
burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?
>
Yes, they did. Bin Laden should be made to pay for that -- oh, I forgot. Bush declared years ago that "he doesn't really think about him much anymore", and stopped looking for him. And I was SO SURE Bush wasn't lying for a change when he spouted all of that 'dead or alive' stuff.

> And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated"
when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?

Well, most people respect other people's religious beliefs -- unless, of course, they're pig-ignorant low-lifes.
>
Well, I don't. I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

Didn't you hear? Bush said he's NOT IMPORTANT ANY MORE.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle Eaststart
caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia

Yeah, you wouldn't want a bunch of religious fanatics having that kind of influence over government policy, would you now? That's why I am so glad Bush doesn't allow the Fundies to get anywhere near him.
>
I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for
hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

Did you enjoy the video? Sure sounds like you got REALLY INTO IT! You must have watched it over, and over, and over.
>
> I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraqcome out
and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.

I just don't understand how US troops can't find those insurgents and get 'em, being as they're all hiding in their mosques all the time. Oh, by the way, some of them prefer being called 'Iraqi citizens' who want their country back.
>
> I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search
of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide
bombs.

I hear ya! It's a blessing that not a single Iraqi child has been killed, maimed, wounded or orphaned by our own military.
>
> I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First
Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

Maybe the media just doesn't respect the Constitution any more -- they probably figure that since the president doesn't, they don't have to either.
>
> In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up
an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.

And if that same marine is 'roughed up' by an Iraqi, he's got it comin' because what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
>
> When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have
been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured
that I don't care.

You must have attended a VERY, VERY TOUGH college! No wonder you're thinking is so fuzzy - it's probably severe brain-damage as a result of a 'hazing incident'.
>
> When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told
not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank
that I don't care.

And if he's not a wounded terrorist, but an innocent man who gets shot in the head, that's okay, too. Shit happens.
>
> When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat,
and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care.

And that 'special' food can cost plenty, too. Have you seen what Halliburton charges the US taxpayers for the crap they feed our soldiers, not to mention the contaminated water they charged an arm and a leg for!
>
> And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran"
and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and ---- you guessed it - - I
don't care !

I am AMAZED you can spell anything -- you must be much smarter than you sound - God knows, you couldn't possibly be any dumber.

[Mz Pip]

15. Thanks!

This is perfect. :hi:

I sent off a link to a video of the Abu Ghriab photos - college hazing prank, indeed. I'll definitely use some of this and some of the others in repsonse.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[texastoast]

16. Just one more thing

To your damned near perfect response:

The Bible is illegal in Saudi, right where many of the Bush family's closest friends reside, some of whom are named Bin Laden.

[NanceGreggs]

17. GOOD ONE!

A perfect addition!