Some kinda big bust going on now near Adrian, MI - FBI, HSA, JATTF, heavy equipment involved

[Bozita]

Add helicopters.

WWW.wxyz.com

Is the Michigan Militia about to rear its ugly head?

Nothing appearing yet on any kind of media that I can find, yet this story led the newscast.

[bluestateguy]

1. Where is that town?

Is this just another wasteful drug bust?

[instantkarma]

88. check out Chang13A on youtube

(www.youtube.com/user/Chang13A)

"Check www.Militiaradio.com for details. This might be the Kickoff to the 2nd American Revolution. Due to Multi State Lightning Raids on Militias. The others HAVE Mobilized in Michigan and Ohio."

"Also http://libertytreeradio.4mg.com/ use the chatroom links or find us on the ircstorm network. This is NOT a fucking DRILL."

under "channel comments":

" 06:35(mark_Koernke_) He then told me that as hewas packing up his LBE and weapons into the armoredtruck he has that he asked his wife to bring thecongregation together to say a prayer for the militia that may be going to war this sunday." (posted this morning, 3/28)

don't know if this guy is just being melodramatic... after watching his video posted this morning he seems to me to be at least connected into the network.

[SharonRB]

2. Something's going on in Ann Arbor, too

Just saw it on WXYZ news. FBI is all over the Washtenaw County building.

On edit: Hubby just told me the Adrian bust is what was going on in Ann Arbor.

[Bozita]

5. Ann Arbor facility is being used as the command center

Cops are blocking off access to that bldg.

[vaberella]

75. Are you kidding?! What kind of command center?! Do you suspect FBI is called?! n/t

[hatesthegop]

3. breaking: they found the bullet

that was at Cantor's office on Thursday!

[babylonsister]

6. LOL! nt

[safeinOhio]

4. Good old Anyway Lenawee.

Hope everything is ok.

[upi402]

7. Joint Anti-Terrorism Task Force is involved

and Homeland Security

[kestrel91316]

8. Domestic terrorists goin' DOWNNNNNN???

[upi402]

9. Helicopters and 6 arrests -witnesses

I do feel safer with Obama in there than with the evildoers of BushCo.

[tmyers09]

10. Shit! Am I blind? I don't see anything on that site or on ClickOnDetroit!

Of course all the cable news channels are doing their stupid weekend programming.

[csziggy]

11. At the link in the OP, upper right hand corner video

Part I've listened to while writing this post, FBI and anti-terrorism task force involved.

[safeinOhio]

12. cant' find anything

Mlive.com, wwj or wxyz.
Anyone have any links?

[Bozita]

14. I'm trying WWJ 950am newsradio now

www.wwj.com

[movonne]

13. Keep us posted on this...sounds interesting...

[jwirr]

15. K&R

[safeinOhio]

16. Oh sh*t

I know lots of people in Sandcreek and Clayton. Some could be very dangerous. Clayton is one of those meth capitols of MI.

[glinda]

47. Meth? That means Palin and Bachmann are involved.

[CLANG]

67. You're mistaking meth for LSD.

[uberblonde]

17. Online police scanner.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3913

[951-Riverside]

18. Since its Michigan I'm placing all bets on Religious Perverts

The kind who beats and rapes women who don't cover themselves "properly" and kills their own children for being too "western".

[Bozita]

23. If we're talking the Adrian area, I'd book your bet.

I'd look more in a westerly direction.

[Initech]

44. That's a pretty safe bet actually

My mom is from that area, there's a lot of fundie nutjobs there.

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. It is the Adrian area

:-)

[Ikonoklast]

110. Really.

Hmmm.


Evil Mooslems, huh?


Hmmm.

[goclark]

112. I've been in that area many times

I'm African American and I don't remember seeing anyone that looked like me other than in my car mirror.

[blogslut]

19. There's this

Not too much info:

(WXYZ) - The FBI was conducting raids Saturday night at multiple locations in southeast Michigan.

Action News has learned Homeland Security and the Joint Anti-terrorism Task Force is also involved in a major operation.

Federal officials would not say who they were targeting or where, but the FBI has set up a command center at the Washtenaw County Sheriff's Department in Ann Arbor, where they have brought in two satellite trucks and a radio tower.

Agents have also obtained search warrants and multiple arrests have been made.

http://www.wxyz.com/news/story/FBI-Conducts-Raids/eE6ZljBWa0uFOMUdtOLzvw.cspx

[Roland99]

27. Related to the arrest of someone plotting to attack stadiums?

That was reported by WESH 2 news in Orlando. Not sure of the details on that.

[Bozita]

20. Anybody else noticed how *local* radio stations aren't really so local. And, they lack a news dept.

I recall an age in which damned near every radio station had its own news bureau and we heard from them every hour, on the half-hour.

Local radio stations are useless if you're looking for local news. ... How damning is that?

[kevinbgoode]

57. Yes, I noticed that a year ago, when we had a major ice storm

and ALL the power went out in my city. My neighborhood was out for 4-5 hours...some were out for DAYS. It was a bitterly cold day - I bundled up in my living room and took out the battery radio, searching for some kind of local news to see how widespread the outages were...and lo and behold...there was none on any local station at all. The only local information I could get was the local NPR station, which only mentioned the ice storm and damage to a transmitting tower.

I was extremely annoyed. . .an entire town out of power, some parts for days, and no information on any local radio.

[Touchdown]

21. Is this some kind of bust?

It's very impressive, but we're just investigating a crime.

[safeinOhio]

22. can you fix link?

[Touchdown]

24. Couldn't get it to work.

Sorry about the Dolphin Cheerleader... had to go with Dolly.:shrug:

[safeinOhio]

25. try this one

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=1272

[peacetalksforall]

33. You have to wait a little while for the ad to disapper and the video to start. It hasn't

been updated while I've looked at it. There is not much more than is in the text to the left. Two things to add - six people were arrested as they crossed the Ohio border. One piece of equipment is for a sateillite tower. Police are not saying anything.

[CLANG]

68. And that's AFTER her breat reduction!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

74. I fully support this bust

:applause:

[peacetalksforall]

26. Here is satellite map:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&num=50&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=images&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=%22705%20North%20Zeeb%20Road%20Ann%20arbor%22&sa=N&tab=wl

Not sure if you can get to it direct. Address 705 North Zeeb Road, Ann Arbor.

County Building - on a Saturday night?

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. This might not be good

[vaberella]

77. Hell no it's not good!! Now I'm a bit concerned about the KKK in Northern New York. n/t

[Roland99]

29. Or maybe follow-ups on threats against Stupak?

[Newsjock]

30. Locations in Ohio and Indiana, too (links)

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2010/03/27/breaking_news/doc4bae9ec40d713435821346.txt

Several police agencies, along with federal agents, descended on the Bayshore Estates mobile home park on Sandusky's east side Saturday evening. One man was led away in handcuffs from a trailer on Cedarwood Drive. Agents on the scene referred all questions to the Detroit and Cleveland FBI field offices, which said Saturday's incident was part of an ongoing investigation and refused to give any information.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/fbi-agents-raid-hammond-location.html

Hammond police assisted with an FBI raid Saturday evening in the Indiana city, but federal officials would not release any details.

Hammond officials did not know the circumstances surrounding the raid, which began at about 7 p.m. and lasted two hours, said a police dispatcher.

[Naturalist111]

31. Here she blows!

[peacetalksforall]

35. What do you mean?

[vaberella]

78. Could be referring the seemingly concerted planned attacks all over the US.

It's not just MI, we now have Indiana and Ohio.

[glinda]

39. LOL! I wish!

[NotThisTime]

32. WTH is going on???

[1776Forever]

34. They took down the Sandusky Ohio page! Wonder if this is connected to rest of the country?

Maybe they have finally had enough and are going to do something to stop the violence - but again it could be anything.

[Newsjock]

36. Updated Sandusky story

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2010/03/27/front/doc4bae9ec40d713435821346.txt

A battalion of local officers and federal agents flooded the Bayshore Estates neighborhood Saturday afternoon.

A second raid was conducted in Huron. An FBI agent at the scene of the Bayshore Estates raid said a second, related raid was taking place at “another location.” Huron police confirmed late Saturday a raid had taken place in that city, but would say nothing more.

Likewise, FBI agents at the scene and at the Cleveland field office are staying mum on the cause of the commotion.

“We did make some arrests,” said special agent Scott Wilson of the FBI’s Cleveland office.

He said the warrants were sealed in federal court and he could not release any information until after the suspects appear in court Monday.

[Bozita]

38. "the Sandusky Ohio page"? ... What page is that?

[CLANG]

69. "One man was led away in handcuffs from a trailer"

TEABAGGERS!

[proud2BlibKansan]

91. Freeper in trailer park arrested

Gotta love that visual.

[1776Forever]

37. Found this article from Sandusky Register....

Police, federal agents in raids in Sandusky, Huron
By SARAH WEBER Sunday, March 28, 2010

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2010/03/27/front/doc4bae9ec40d713435821346.txt

A battalion of local officers and federal agents flooded the Bayshore Estates neighborhood Saturday afternoon.

A second raid was conducted in Huron. An FBI agent at the scene of the Bayshore Estates raid said a second, related raid was taking place at “another location.” Huron police confirmed late Saturday a raid had taken place in that city, but would say nothing more.

Likewise, FBI agents at the scene and at the Cleveland field office are staying mum on the cause of the commotion.

“We did make some arrests,” said special agent Scott Wilson of the FBI’s Cleveland office.

He said the warrants were sealed in federal court and he could not release any information until after the suspects appear in court Monday.

Sandusky Police, Erie County Sheriff’s deputies, agents from Toledo Police Bomb Squad and Cleveland Regional Transit Authority’s K9 Unit assisted at the scene.

Capt. Paul Sigsworth of the Erie County Sheriff’s office said he could not talk about the investigation.

Agents at Bayshore Estates yelled at residents to stay back at least a block from where they conducted the arrest on East Cedarwood Drive. Agents placed a handcuffed white male wearing a black shirt into a silver car.

Some officers in green uniforms carried large automatic rifles.

(more at link)

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Ok looking at the geography of WHERE this is happening

I am almost willing to bet this is militia related.

So that comment of there she blows... you might be onto something.

OH SHIT that's all I can say.

[The Magistrate]

41. Indeed, Ma'am: At This Pont That Seems The Wat To Bet....

[1776Forever]

42. I am wondering if it has anything to do with the threats to Stupak? It is MI???

Guess we will know on Monday if not sooner.

:shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. Might

back in the day, oh way back in the day I did way too much readying onto the fire on the plains, the way the militia movement identified itself back in the '90s. I would not be shocked if this is not Stupak Related, but a far more wide spread shall we say problem? One of those investigations that take the Feds months, at times years, to do.

Regardless, if this is even distantly related to the militias, they are doing this in a strategic date... BEFORE the open carry rally, and with no much fuss or muss.

That is what the Feds call a signal being sent.

[glinda]

52. I hope you are right. Have worried about the rally and it becoming an army.

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. The rally actually is potentially dangerous

but also a GOOD place to get ahem records.

One good thing about the Militias, so far, they will learn. Operational Security is not just an acronym boys. And boy are they bad with that one.

[glinda]

93. be careful what you wish for

[nadinbrzezinski]

98. My wish is that they remain dumb as rocks

regarding things like OpSec

And rallies being a place to get ahem Intel, that is SOP for EVERY RALLY in the US... does not matter what the leaning is... see OpSec.

[glinda]

109. Middle Eastern Terrorism evolved to a place where more educated began to participate so

I absolutely agree with you. This advancement needs to be stopped right now. We have drug wars to the south and are in two fake wars as is, not counting anything else we have strained resources going out to. I would like to see us focus on our Country and our borders and relations with other Countries.

[Beetwasher]

94. Op Sec

Op sec is difficult when yr ranks consist of meth dealers/addicts and other assorted blowhard, wannabe scum.

[nadinbrzezinski]

99. And that is a huge misunderstanding of the militia movement

though I will give you one... for the most part they ARE wannabees.

[Beetwasher]

106. It's My Understanding

That they have close ties if not crossover with the skinhead/white power groups. They r notorious for funding activities via meth.

Perhaps I'm conflating tho.

[nadinbrzezinski]

107. You are, while there is some cross over

the militia types believe the skin heads to be lower than dirt. Why? You got it, METH... they see Meth and other drug use as something that is polluting the land and should be removed from the land.

Easy to conflate though... as there is some cross over

[Beetwasher]

108. Gotchya

n/t

[malaise]

83. Sounds like good news to me

:hi:

[peacetalksforall]

45. See the other thread Naturalist111 started. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8035688

Subject line: Something is going on, going down and you will know

[glinda]

46. Oh gosh darn it, now we are going around in circles.

[malaise]

73. LOL

I just looked at all the links I've opened and you're 100% correct - back to the start.
Should be another interesting week. :popcorn:

[havocmom]

51. Comment on that profile is amusing

in a 'I'm one of you, really' sorta way that we have seen over the years.

[vaberella]

79. Is that person mocking the dangerous situation at hand? n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. And here is who else is paying attention to this

http://conservativeamericannews.com/tag/michigan

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2481479/posts

Sorry for the links to those ahem "conservative" places, but this is important to know who is tracking what.

[cbdo2007]

49. Their comments are hilarious. Of course the narccisistic (sp?) Christians think it's

all about them. ha ha haha ha ha

[glinda]

50. Uggh! Hard to read that stuff. We will have to see what/who it is...

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. That's why I just gave you the links

as an FYI.

I don't have the stomach to read the predictable, they are bustin' them aryabs comments.

Given the geography and area of country, wrong place for that... but boy right place for some ahem militia activity.

[galileoreloaded]

56. Like I said awhile back, all my freep type

acquaintances have gone quiet. Silent. Nothing, no arguing, no speech, no bitching or grousing. Nada.

Burying guns in the back forty again I see.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. That is what is going on I suspect AGAIN mind you

and we'd better 'plain what the back forty is to them urban types.

I am one of them urban types, but I happen to know it. So for the rest of the crowd, the back forty is that area of the property furthest from the front of the property...

:-)

and it is usually in acres.

[vaberella]

80. Yeah but the freeper clowns say it's Muslim related. n/t

[safeinOhio]

89. very unlikely in that area of

Lenawee County. A long way from Dearborn and very few Middle Eastern people near Sand Creek/Clayton. Lots of drugs and Mexican transporting of drugs and people. Also a key area of past militias. They use to train in a park in Medina a few miles west. 3 or 4 Deputies that have been arrested or fired live in that area. Very high unemployment, around 15%, rural and wannabe cowboys with a small weekend rodeo along with auto junkyards. Hard to speculate, Arab terrorist would be about last on the list for that area.

[vaberella]

90. Freepers have wild imaginations. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

100. 'xactly

and I don't even live in OH... but did a fair readying into the movement in the 90s.

I am almost willing to bet Michigan Militia, or a few others... Michigan Militia IS the big one though.

[bluestateguy]

59. I'm sorry, so far this just sounds like a lot of heavy breathing

It's probably just a meth lab bust.

[FedUpWithIt All]

60. It happened simultaneously in three states. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. and the anti terrorism task force usually does not

get involved in drug busts...

[JoeyT]

63. That was my thought as well.

You'd see a ridiculous amount of DEA/FBI/SWAT/etc around, but I've never heard of the anti-terrorism task force or Homeland Security being involved, even for the scariest of traffickers and drug gangs. Either some bad shit happened, some bad shit was going to happen, or someone thought some bad shit might happen.

My guess would be that they got a tip that a liberal had painted a snarky sign and had to shut it down. ;)

[peacetalksforall]

92. Supposedly, Homeland Security doesn't to meth labs, if it's true that they are there..

[1776Forever]

62. Wow has anyone used this site yet? Take a look - I put FBI in search box.......

It gives you everything that has been listed on Facebook and Twitter in the last (I think) 5 days.

http://www.ubervu.com/fbi/social-media-conversations/

[peacetalksforall]

64. The link froze my computer. Can you give us a summary? Samples?

[1776Forever]

95. Try this home page it should work...

http://www.ubervu.com/

[nadinbrzezinski]

102. Lord I am good

I did guess the Michigan Militia was involved.

And I am sure glad these guys don't know the first thing about Federal Seals, or OpSec

[salin]

65. Find the initial bits and pieces of the story interesting... but

won't speculate til there is a little more information. Will keep following the thread - I used to live on the Ann Arbor/Ypsi border. As such, interested in reading more details as they become available.

[maddezmom]

66. FBI Conducts Raids In SE Michigan, At Least One Person Arrested

FBI Conducts Raids In SE Michigan
At Least One Person Arrested

POSTED: Sunday, March 28, 2010

ADRIAN, Mich. -- The FBI confirmed to Local 4 that there were several law enforcement activities in the Lenawee/Washtenaw County area late Saturday night.

"The federal warrants are sealed and we can not comment at this time," said Sandra Berchtold, Media/Applicant Coordinater FBI Detroit.

Local 4 crews could see FBI helicopters flying over the area.

Michigan State Police said the raids are not terror related, but would not comment further.

Police said, one person driving up from Toledo was taken into custody and then taken in for questioning.

more:http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/22978954/detail.html

[RagAss]

72. Wow...sounds like a 5 million+ dollar operation and one arrest? They could have sent Barney.

[Roland99]

82. If it wasn't terror-related then why was the JATF involved??

[annabanana]

70. kicking for the East Coast

(those of us that sleep at night)

[PCIntern]

71. At WXYZ there a comment: "I faught for true americans..."

I had not seen that one before...

[vaberella]

81. Can you provide a link? n/t

[mmonk]

86. Yes, I saw that one myself.

[vaberella]

76. Good Lord...this is terrifying. n/t

[Edweird]

84. Why would this be terrifying? It should be reassuring.

It's not National Guard troops imposing martial law, it's not a massive first responder call up to some kind of attack. It's some dickwads getting taken down BEFORE they actually did anything. It's a good sign in my book.

[vaberella]

85. It's terrifying because I read post# 30.

Yes, it's reassuring that the FBI is doing their jobs. But each State has their own militia groups, if this is militia. And if it is militia they seem to be working together. That means they'll be more cropping up. I know New York has the KKK and I don't want to know what they've been planning upstate. That's what freaks me out. That there will be more and what if one of them is missed by the FBI.

[Edweird]

87. Yes, there are idiots all over. This will help remind them of reality.

Waco, Ruby Ridge and McVeigh all ended badly. These law enforcement actions will shut down some of the biggest actors and send a message to the others. Notice how there weren't any shots fired, nor was there any general uprising. Why? Because they will be killed. If your upstate KKK gets too far outta line there will be guys from the government willing to assist them in dying for their cause (if they prefer that over going to prison) kicking in their doors. People's fears over these 'militias' are way overblown.

[olegramps]

97. I agree with you. These idiots don't pose any credible threat.

The FBI monitors these nitwits and has them infiltrated. I am not saying the FBI is infallably, but you won't want them on your ass.

[nadinbrzezinski]

103. Actually expect more of this

but this also means some of the Militias will become ahem interesting.

[1776Forever]

96. Just posted report from Ann Arbor.com Militia group involved in raids.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8037591

[Initech]

101. WTF is going on here? What are they selling pipe bombs for?

[Bozita]

104. Only Faux News is reporting anything to do with pipe bombs. Credibility is a problem.

[Initech]

105. True, it is the Fux propaganda network.

[metapunditedgy]

111. Looks like a smaller militia called "Hutaree" is the focus.

Other militias are denying any association with Hutaree, as they were "too radical."

(I hope I can scrub out of my cache the web sites I've been visiting to follow up on this story... yuk.)

Is this true? Are the raids just focused on a small group of people, or are they larger-scope and the bigger militias are just in official-denial mode?