Obama: "I will continue to reach out to Republicans... & incorporate their ideas" Kill the Mandate!

[grahamhgreen]

Could he be open to killing the mandate?

After all, it's what the right is really angry about (or so they say).

This is a great opportunity for Obama to reach out to them and kill the horrible mandate to give insurance companies trillions.

After all, insurers are already failing to quietly abide by the new laws to provide health care to children with pre-existing conditions, soon, as they get their trillions, they will lobby and lawsuit away all of the reforms in the bill.

Maybe the DLC/pro-corporate Dems will play it smart.

They can let the Rebubs push the idea of repealing the mandate (and only the mandate) - this will drive the insurance money into the Dem's coffers.

In the end, a couple of Dems peel away and vote with the Repubs on repealing the mandate - big insurance loses out and we can get single-payer passed, or at least a real public option.

Maybe it's 3d chess after all...

[lonestarnot]

1. Wouldn't that be sumpin!

:D

[Fumesucker]

2. No, the mandate is the one thing The Powers That Be truly want..

I think the chances of the mandate going away vary all the way from zero to absolutely none.

[grahamhgreen]

3. As did Obama's election....

remember - we elected him - not the big boys

[Fumesucker]

7. Do you honestly think he would have gotten anywhere near the nomination let alone the election?

If he were not acceptable to the big wheels?

[grahamhgreen]

9. I don't know, but I love your avatar!

I know for a fact he could not have gotten elected without us.

Was he a corporate plant from the get go?

I don't know....

[Mojambo]

4. I have no problem with a mandate, fundamentally

Frankly, I'm not sure how things work without one.

I just don't want the mandate to force me to buy from a private, for profit health insurance company.

[grahamhgreen]

5. Agreed - A tax for Medicare is fine, a mandate for crapsurance, is a tragedy.

[Edweird]

6. Um, do some research on the history of the 'individual mandate'.

It's far right policy. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

[grahamhgreen]

10. I know

But I'm still hoping we can get the tea-hadist movement to go after it with vigor!

And, in so doing, force the rebubs to move against it as well.....

[usregimechange]

8. Let's hope so

[Individualist]

11. Pro-corporate dems kill the mandate?

No way. DLC gives corporations precedence over the people.

[grahamhgreen]

12. But they should want to lead the Rebubs on... make the Repubs go after the mandate

makes them look good to big insurance....

[sabrina 1]

13. The mandate IS a Republican idea. They never

criticized that. They don't dare or their corporate masters will continue to hire Democrats to do their dirty work for them.

This is pure BS. Did we work to get a Democratic majority so that they could then turn around and incorporate the ideas the public REJECTED?

What other ideas of theirs does he intend to incorporate? It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to answer that question. Privatizing Social Security is next! And he needs the cover of pretending to 'need the votes of Republicans' to get 'anything done'.

They really do think the public is stupid. And we are in a way. What we need is money. Enough to buy the corrupt Congress since we can't stop them any other way.

[Marr]

14. I'll say we are.

After November, I suspect they're going to really pounce on "entitlement reform", and I also suspect there will be a cheer squad for the idea right here on DU. If you can get people who are moderately informed to clap for their own destruction, I don't see how the majority of the country would ever be more than a speedbump.

[sabrina 1]

15. Then they deserve what happens to them. But the elderly

who have worked all their lives, do not. I don't know who this person is in the WH, but although he looks like the guy who campaigned for the presidency, it's hard to believe this is the same person.

I see he was sounding like George Bush today threatening Iran with sanctions also. What happened to the diplomacy he talked about? He sounded just like an American bully, 'warning' European nations who are 'not on board' for the sanctions, that HE, The US President, 'doesn't want to wait months, he wants this done in weeks'! I thought ti was a replay of Bush in the run-up to the Iraq war. I'd say it won't be long before the Europeans realize that no matter who is president here, the Empire's interests will take precedence over the rest of the world and start taking care of their own people. The sheer arrogance was stunning.