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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:19 AM
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Gallup Poll on vandalism and threats = 138%
:shrug: Am I reading this wrong?:shrug:

And what about those incidents of vandalism and verbal threats that followed the bill's passage?

Those surveyed are slightly more likely to blame Democratic political maneuvers than harsh rhetoric by opponents. In the poll, 49% say Democratic tactics are "a major reason" for the incidents. Meanwhile, 46% blame harsh criticism by conservative commentators on TV and radio; 43% say criticism by Republican leaders played a major role.


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/03/poll-half-say-passage-of-health-care-law-a-bad-thing-/1
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:23 AM
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1. All the more reason to stop paying attention to these stupid polls
The math is usually screwed up. Plus look at the number they polled. If it's less than 1000, it's not a valid sampling.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:25 AM
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2. MOE +/- 4%
Yes it is not a good poll
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:38 AM
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3. pretty stupid, huh
We used to be polled here but one day I didn't like the way I was being pushed, an either/ or when in actuality it was neither so I voiced my displeasure with that and viola all I heard was a click and we haven't been called since. Funny how that works where when I was willing to take their push poll I was an alright guy but the moment I showed any sign of individual thought I was no longer important.

I'm not sure there is any good polling companies that can be trusted
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:49 AM
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4. I got polled awhile back.
Smething like, "Do you think homosexuals should get married in West Virginia?" I said yes. It's funny how many one question polls I get asked to participate in.

Speaking of polls, I'm going to share something that protocol rv posted yesterday:

    My Favorite Poll Questions:

    Which political leader do you trust the most:

    a) Kim Jong Il
    b) Mahmoud Amahdinejad
    c) Hugo Chavez
    d) Sarah Palin

    Pick your solution to the deficit crisis:

    a) raise taxes, which will cut your paycheck
    b) cut Social Security payments
    c) sell Hawaii to the Chinese
    d) Vote for Sarah Palin, she'll know what to do

    Pick your solution to the Iraq Occupation

    a) Become a surrender monkey and run away
    b) Draft all 18 year olds and send them to Iraq
    c) Pay Osama bin Laden $1 billion to leave Iraq with all his WMDs
    d) Vote for Sarah Palin, she'll know what to do

    Who is the best looking government chick

    a) Janet Reno
    b) Hillary Clinton
    c) Nancy Pelosi
    d) Sarah Palin

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8048859&mesg_id=8049141
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:56 AM
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5. I guess I was the one who was pretty stupid . . .
when I was screening calls and a Gallup call came in, and I didn't take it. I wish I had, because when I thought about it, I realized they might have reached a freeper or a teabagger next, and their input, instead of mine, would influence a national poll. Trust polls or not, Gallup doesn't do push polls, and I missed a chancece to represent a more liberal viewpoint than they might have gotten from someone else.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:57 AM
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6. I had a good laugh
You're correct.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 06:03 AM
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7. I saw it on Morning Joe
No one (out of what 5 people?) pointed out that it was more than 100%

The Washington Post guy, of course, had to sound considerate that yes everyone is a little guilty

Um even at 138% the right takes up 89% of the blame--no one dared mention that
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 07:38 AM
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8. Same here
:hi:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 07:51 AM
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9. one of my favorite stats of the RW bias in the "liberal media" ...
"The dems had 60 senators, why didn't they pass it?"

So ...

60 Democrats

40 Republicans

2 Independents who caucus with the Democrats

Joe Lieberman ("Independent" Democrat)

by the logic of the "reporting", there's 103 Senators ...
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 07:52 AM
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10. Pretty simple. The choices are independent. You can say Yes to multiple choices
Something like

Are Democrats a major reason for the incidents of violent? Yes or No.
49% Yes

Is harsh criticism of conservative commentators a major reason for the incidents of violent? Yes or No.
46% Yes

Are Republicans a major reason for the incidents of violent? Yes or No.
43% Yes

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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 08:00 AM
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11. It's a multiple response question and you can't interpret the democratic answer without
drilling down on the others. How many of that 49% are also blaming republicans and the media. It's clear that the violence is in response to the vote so depending on how the question was worded many of us would be in that 49% that say it is a "major reason" for the violence, because common sense would require us to answer that way if we were being honest.

If they asked them to rank whose to blame then I would be worried about democrats. But the pollster knew better than to phrase it that way.
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