Wow. An email a friend of mine recently received (shout warning - posted as received)

[av8rdave]

Check out this gem:

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY,
YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU GET:

A JOB,
A DRIVERS LICENSE,
SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
WELFARE,
FOOD STAMPS,
CREDIT CARDS,
SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
FREE EDUCATION,
FREE HEALTH CARE,
A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON,
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE,
THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT

AND, IN
MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION.


I can only assume the author wants us to be more like North Korea, Iran, Cuba, etc., etc.

What a moran.

[wtmusic]

1. Yay! The US is better than all those places!

:patriot:

[Posteritatis]

18. My reaction too, really. (nt)

[Hello_Kitty]

2. Gosh, I want to cross the border illegally if I get all that! eom

[Wickerman]

3. First of all, that is no friend

Second, they are wrong:

A JOB, perhaps
A DRIVERS LICENSE, nope, not legally
SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, nope, not legally
WELFARE, nope, not legally
FOOD STAMPS, nope, not legally
CREDIT CARDS, uh, that would be the fault of capitalism
SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE, nope, not legally
FREE EDUCATION, only for children
FREE HEALTH CARE, only for children
A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON, doesn't even make sense
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE, they are also printed for naturalized citizens
THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT
uh, yeah, whatever
AND, IN
MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE. in online polls?

pointless hate.

[av8rdave]

7. FWIW, the friend I refer to received this - didn't compose it

In fact, I replied with a lot of the same debunking you did.

[Lance_Boyle]

10. "nope, not legally"

Do you think any of your "nope, not legally" matters a bit to the people who already crossed the border (you guessed it) "nope, not legally?"

Free health care can be (and is) had by illegal aliens at emergency rooms throughout the US. This is not limited to children. The rest of us pay for it in increased costs.

I, for one, can't wait for the amnesty wars to break out in DU. And we thought primaries, elections, and health care reform were fun...

It ain't "hate" to want to put a stop to illegal immigration.

[KansDem]

20. Talk to the business owners who employ illegal immigrates.

I would wager that if these employers were held accountable with fines and jail terms, "illegal immigration" would become a thing of the past...

[unpossibles]

21. and how do you propose to stop it?

I'm genuinely curious.

The point is that it's not like we hand people any of those things, and in fact even the jobs (which is a big part of the draw for them) still provide risk for them to get.

As for health care, Americans go to Mexico and Canada for health care also.

[Lance_Boyle]

27. There is only one way to stop (or at least tame) the problem.

Fine employers of illegal aliens an amount sufficient to cover the cost of deporting the illegal alien, plus an additional amount intended as a punitive fine that would be put into a fund to help defray the cost of deporting those illegal aliens who are not employed.

[Robyn66]

17. I hope you don't mind

I have some RW friends who will probably be sending this to me shortly *gag* so I am copying your response down to send back to them. YOU ROCK

[kestrel91316]

26. Correction: the very large population of illegal immigrants in SoCal

(and probably everywhere else in the US) is a large part of the reason hospital emergency rooms are overcrowded. Because they MUST be seen and treated when they present to the ER regardless of ability to pay, and because they usually have no assets to chase after if the bill goes unpaid, the hospital doesn't collect (or perhaps they get reimbursal from the state or feds in order to stay afloat because it's a HORRIBLE drain). MILLIONS of people in the US illegally get free medical care evey year, and in the end it's the taxpayer and/or people WITH medical insurance who absorb the cost.

Mind you, I'm all for sending their home countries the bill, but the situation IS the way it is. Broken.

[veganlush]

4. wow. hugh moran..n/t

[Robyn66]

5. I wonder if I will be seeing that one later today

I have friends who like to send e-mails like that too. It really pisses me off because I don't send them anti rethuglican e-mails because I respect their feelings even though I don't agree with them.

[pinboy3niner]

11. If you do see it again, you might respond a la Wickerman

in post # 3, above. He does a nice job puncturing that balloon.

[Robyn66]

15. Absolutely

I have already copied and pasted his response!

[av8rdave]

16. I already did!

Their logic only holds water as long as one doesn't stop and think about it.

[Mugweed]

6. Hurray for the USA!

Boooo to the "I got mine, so fuck you" crowd. If they think those countries have better rules, they are free to move there any time. I'll even take some vacation days to help them pack.

I once tried to explain to a rightie that illegal immigrants aren't really all voting for Democrats. It got nowhere.

[av8rdave]

8. My sentiments exactly

As near as I can tell, all a screed like that says is that the right wingers want us to be like all those countries mentioned in the message!

[NJmaverick]

9. REPLY ALL- Who are the people giving the illegals jobs and why?

[av8rdave]

14. What you said. I would add....

These people seem have no problem enjoying the fruits of the immigrants' cheap, abused, underpaid labor.

[NJmaverick]

22. That's the heart of the issue. The illegal immigration problem could be easily fixed

if they went after the people exploiting the immigrants.

[av8rdave]

23. +1 That has always been my feeling on the issue

I have always told those I know that complain about "the immigrant problem" that these are people who are only doing EXACTLY what we would be doing if we were in the same circumstances. I would call going anywhere I had to and doing any job I could get to support my loved ones "family values."

This is another case of blaming victims instead of addressing the issue.

[librechik]

12. ooh, that undocumented worker cleaning your toilet is really a billionaire! (I think)

ohh. Scary?

What a heap o lies

[monmouth]

13. This "gem" has been around a while. I deleted my "friend" that sent it...n/t

[krispos42]

19. All the cases except ours incudes the assumption that you get caught.

Interesting false comparasion there.

Of course, if the freepers want to pay for increasing the US prison system six-fold or more, I'm sure they're willing to pay the taxes for the costs so the rich and powerful don't.

[pinboy3niner]

24. NICE catch!

Instead of the laundry list of freebies in the original screed, substitute: YOU GET DEPORTED TO YOUR HOME COUNTRY.

Way.To.Go. :yourock:

[krispos42]

25. Of course, in those other countries the # of people trying to get in...

...is fairly low and entirely jailable. :-)

[DefenseLawyer]

28. Printing government documents in Spanish costs Billions! No Trillions!

It's actually the source of 3/4 of the national debt.

[Rex]

29. Oh wow, the author picked all the places his daddy told him

'evil doers' come from, then refuted his daddy's statements with a great argument as to why everyone wants to come live in America!

God, I love stupid people.




"Illegals KNOW we are a country in a sea of stupid, ignorant, racists and can play us off like all-day-suckers." - Rex

[Fresh_Start]

30. respond with if you are legally in those countries

you get an average annual income of $xxxx
it would be a wonderful comparison