ROEDER SENTENCING -- THREAD #2

[Hepburn]

The other one is getting rather long. Court is on break. Thought it a good time to start a new thread.

:hi:

[slackmaster]

1. I wish they'd take him out to the back of the courthouse and shoot him

I can't take the suspense.

[demtenjeep]

2. Thank you NOLA is AWESOME

I wish that scum could get the death penalty, but I will live with the hard 50 but want them to make it so he can't speak to the media ever!

[Hepburn]

3. Interesting comment from his ex wife on a TRU TV interview.

She said that she wanted the hard 50 because if he got out on the 25 years on, he would only be 79 years old and she thought he would go out and do it again.

[Hepburn]

4. Article on Dr. Hough's testimony:

http://www.kansas.com/2010/03/31/1249310/roeder-to-be-sentenced-thursday.html


"Scott Roeder sentencing update: Psychologist says Roeder is mentally competent"

[SusanaMontana41]

105. I'm glad he won't get the death penalty.

The anti-choice wingnuts don't need a martyr. May Roeder live a long life as someone's bitch and die in prison.

[POAS]

5. Just got back from an errand

can I get an update on what is happening now?

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Still on recess 2 more minutes

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T2

[POAS]

9. Thanks...n/t

[kestrel91316]

8. They were cross-examining his psychologist, now on break....

[POAS]

10. Thanks...n/t

[kestrel91316]

6. Is there to be any consideration of the likelihood of reoffending? Because

IMHO he has a 110% chance of doing the same or worse if they don't lock him up 'til he's too decrepit to do harm.......

[Hepburn]

11. That is about what the ex wife said about him. If he got out, he would do it again.

And...his son was glad he was convicted.

[immoderate]

14. Yep, IMO his argument that he's justified is the argument to put him away.

--imm

[Hepburn]

15. Ya know....it seems that simple to me, too.

I cannot see him changing his attitude. On top of that, he feels -0- remorse for what he did. Justified to save the unborn.

He is a danger and he needs to be locked up and kept away from the rest of us.

[Hepburn]

12. Back live...

...Dr. Hough still on the stand and DA is on X exam with him.

[Hepburn]

13. CNN Link to live stream:

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T2

[malaise]

16. He hasn't been sentenced yet?

I've been peeping in and out all day.

[Hepburn]

18. No...

...but the judge did find the ag circum on the hard 50 rule.

So now the defense is trying to mitigate.

[Hepburn]

17. DA....statement of "abortionist must be stopped."

Dr. admits that this is part of the motivation. Speaking on terrorism -- falls within the def of "American terrorism."

Wow...and this is the DEFENSE witness?!?!?!?!?!?! :wow:

[demtenjeep]

19. what a fucking piece of shit

I wish they had taken care of him at the time

He still thinks he is justified and has rights

piece of mother fucking shit

[Hepburn]

23. Too bad Roeder did not opt for "suicide by cop."

Would have saved the State of Kansas a lot of money and time that could be better used elsewhere.

JMHO

[MiniMe]

24. What did Roeder say?

[Hepburn]

20. Judge just reamed Roeder for an outburst.

I missed it...phone. Anyone get what happened?

[demtenjeep]

22. he wanted the doc to use the term "unborn babies"

and got highly agitated

[Hepburn]

26. OMG....

...what a total asshole.

They have rights, but people in being like Dr. Tiller do not! :puke:

[Missy Vixen]

46. Roeder's up

Pooor murderer. Can't speak at his own trial.

More BS from a man I hope never sees the light of day again.

[MiniMe]

21. Sorry, I was out. What was the outburst?

[Hepburn]

27. I missed it, too...

...about the unborn babies.

[MiniMe]

36. At least he didn't use pre-born like that 1st guy did

I still don't know what the heck they are talking about there.

[malaise]

51. Is Roeder mad?

WTF is this going on here? You murdered Dr. Tiller - you will now be punished. You do not decide the fucking law murderer.

[kestrel91316]

25. Judge just bit Roeder's head off for spouting crap about "the babies!1!!1!!" in court

during the psychologist's testimony. SWEET.

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. He shut up pretty fast

LOL

[demtenjeep]

29. doc said he may be a "one act drama"

and saying he would not harm the regular man on the street

[Hepburn]

33. It's just anyone about whom he feels justified in killing...

...that seems to be the problem. So, I say he does present a real danger.

[kestrel91316]

34. No, just other "abortionists".........well, then, all is well. Give him 5 years

probation and apologize for inconveniencing the poor dear.

[Hepburn]

30. Dr. Hough -- Roeder has had his one outburst...

...people in general would not be at risk. However, Hough says he could not say the same about aqn abortion provider.

[demtenjeep]

32. dude is a piece of shit

I wish someone would just say that!

[kestrel91316]

31. His psychologist is ensuring that he will get hard 50, lol.

Saying he's basically a terrorist, and abortionists at risk from him still.

[Hepburn]

35. Defense up on re-direct

Asking about Roeder's ability to conform. Ans: It was compromised.

Dr. Hough is off the stand now.

[demtenjeep]

37. Fucker

piece of shit can't stand?

[Hepburn]

38. Next witness: Roeder will read a statement to the court.

Speaking now.

[proud2BlibKansan]

39. ROEDER READY TO READ STATEMENT

This oughta be good.

[demtenjeep]

40. shut that fucker down

he is not doing himself any favors?

who wrote that shit rodent is reading?

[Hepburn]

41. This is total bullshit...

...he is asking questions to the court and they are argumentative and put down to the judge.

Terminal stupidity.

[demtenjeep]

47. why isn't the judge telling him to shut the fuck up

what a dumb ass

[MiniMe]

42. Did the sound just cut out?

[kestrel91316]

43. POS. Somebody get me a gun.

[proud2BlibKansan]

44. Roeder:

Calling unborn children 'victims'

Complaining he wasn't allowed to speak openly at his trial

[Hepburn]

48. Yeah, 50 million victims....

...:puke:

[Hepburn]

45. Oh, fuck...he is reaming out the judge!!!!

:wow:

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. What a dumb shit

Admitting he contacted Phill Kline

:wow:

[Hepburn]

55. Holy fucking shit...

...I knew it would be off the wall...but here we are talking Great Wall of China!!!!!!

:wow:

[demtenjeep]

53. he is a lying sack of shit

Tiller would have NEVER done anything like that and no one would have been there to see it

[proud2BlibKansan]

54. Explaining horrible things a witness saw at Dr Tiller's clinic

[Hepburn]

60. And I am sure that whoever the POS Roeder is relying on has to be telling the truth.

Unbelievable...he is describing abortions.

Baby...did he just say "a union of love???" Oh, please, I had to have not heard this correctly.

[proud2BlibKansan]

64. He's reading from a prolife pamphlet

[Hepburn]

75. They truly are dishonest, lying, evil asshole shitheads.

Fuck this shit.

Man, this should be played to anyone who thinks that abortion will always be safe and legal.

These people are a threat to EVERYONE.

[proud2BlibKansan]

125. Thank You Mr Roeder for exposing the insanity of the anti choice movement

[Missy Vixen]

220. IIRC, there was some controversy when Melodee Green released

her pamphlet at the time. I believe the photos of the "aborted babies" were taken out of the USA, and obtained in a less-than-legal fashion as well.

Melodee Green's husband, Keith, was a major Christian recording artist, fundie to the 10th power, and humorless. He perished in a plane crash (again, IIRC) in 1981 as the result of a significantly overloaded small plane with two of his children.

[kestrel91316]

50. Way to go, Roeder, chew out the judge who is deciding your fate.

[Hepburn]

52. I am stunned...

...even from a POS like Roeder...unbelievable flow of shit from his mouth.

[demtenjeep]

56. Murder is wrong so abortion is worng

so if murder is wrong....then mother fucker you did wrong

[demtenjeep]

59. why is he allowed to be saying this

this is NOT part of allocution or impact

[Hepburn]

63. Because he is at his own sentencing and trying to tell the judge why...

...it is OK to have done what he did.

Great statement: If he could have shown the pictures of the dead babies to the jury...he thinks they would not have convicted him.

Where the fuck is this dumbshit getting this supposed "info???"

[malaise]

67. L

He's going to be locked up for the rest of his life for murder. He does not decide what is law and what is not law. Fuck this murderer
It's almost hilarious that he does not think he committed murder.

[Missy Vixen]

57. Shorter Roeder: I'm a hero.

I'm only sorry he's getting just fifty years.

:mad:

[Hepburn]

70. Eternity in hell...

...assuming there is a hell.

Asshole...I want to curettage and dilate his fucking mouth! :grr:

[proud2BlibKansan]

58. "George Tiller was not innocent"

People in Kansas are in denial

Wants to display pictures of aborted babies

[proud2BlibKansan]

61. Judge needs to shut Roeder up

This is repulsive. Like everyone there doesn't know what happens during an abortion.

What a disgusting cheap shot.

[Missy Vixen]

66. BTW, if you want to read more of the crap he's currently spouting

he's referencing Melodee Green, an anti-abortion zealot.

The article he's currently referencing was written over 20 years ago.

-MV
former fundie

[proud2BlibKansan]

88. Now he is reading from Paul Hill's writings

[kestrel91316]

62. Can't even pronounce "curettage" or "uterus" properly. Dumbfuck.

[demtenjeep]

65. wish his mother had aborted him

dumb fuck

[demtenjeep]

69. and he compared abortions to Nazi killing jews

what a dumb fuck

[kestrel91316]

68. Why are these blatant medical lies permitted?

[demtenjeep]

71. he must be so wanting to wack off right now

this is his porn

[Hepburn]

72. Ya think he is trying to convince the court that he is insane???

This could do it.

I have not heard so much bullshit EVER!!!!!

[demtenjeep]

76. hey fucker, your son and daughter do NOT want to see you ever again

either

[Missy Vixen]

74. My favorite part so far has been the "babies who survived abortions

and were adopted" shtick.

There's a woman in the Seattle area who made the mistake of insisting to me she knew someone who smuggled "an aborted baby" who was "born alive" out of a local hospital.

I wish they'd all find a hobby.

[Hepburn]

78. They do have a hobby...

...religious wack jobbery!

These assholes are dangerous...!!! And we need to remember this ALWAYS!

[Sheepshank]

221. that was induced labor of a surrogate...more likely than their crap n/t

[kestrel91316]

73. Get me a gun. I can't reach Roeder, being in SoCal. So I think the best

thing is to SHOOT MYSELF so I don't have to keep listening to his descriptions of procedures he knows nothinig about.

[malaise]

80. LOL

Kansas State killed George Tiller - get it. Roeder didn't do it. It's their fault.
He's batshit crazy.

[MiniMe]

84. He had to do it because Kansas didn't find him guilty

Ugh.

[Missy Vixen]

86. IIRC, but it takes a second opinion and some kind of hearing

to get a late-term abortion in this state.

Less than seven hundred late-term abortions a year are performed in the United States yearly. It's interesting to listen to this guy fetishize an experience he is never going to grapple with -- the decision whether or not to continue a pregnancy that guarantees your death or the death of the fetus, the decision to continue a pregnancy with an already dead fetus or one so compromised there is no hope of any kind of quality of life.

It's unfortunate that he also seems to believe that every sperm is sacred, but won't pay child support, according to his ex-wife.

[proud2BlibKansan]

222. Can't get a late term abortion here anymore

Not since May 31, 2010.

[kestrel91316]

77. I am laughing at this illiterate fuck screwing up reading the statement HE wrote.

[demtenjeep]

79. HE didn't write this shit

probably someone like Randall Terry

[demtenjeep]

82. now quoting Paul Hill

dude is one fucked up ignorant piece of crap

[Gin]

83. shut this jerk up already

[Hepburn]

81. He is reading from PAUL HILL....

...:wow:

This is his hero????? OMFG.......!!!!!

[Lyric]

85. In essence: "I'm allowed to kill people who break my religion's laws and offend my God"

I wonder if Roeder realizes that he's justifying shit like 9/11 right now?

[MiniMe]

89. Who is Roeder to say what offends his God

You're right, he is talking like this is a jihad.

[Hepburn]

101. Yep...an American terrorist. n/t

[malaise]

90. Yep it's all about his laws

Secular laws are irrelevant to these morons.
Ah STFU Roeder and get into you cell.

[Hepburn]

91. GMTA...

...9/11 and Hitler did come to mind.

[Hepburn]

87. If I had not known better...I would have bet that I was listening to SNL.

This is the most idiocy I have EVER seen in one place in one statement. Sara Paline and Virginia Fox be damned proud of this performance!

[uppityperson]

92. This is wild. Real life imitates The Onion

[Hepburn]

94. No fucking shit...!!!!

:wow:

Words escape me.

[malaise]

103. Is he allowed to go on forever?

This is madness.

[Hepburn]

107. I think the judge is letting it go on because there can be no claim...

...later that the POS did not get to speak his mind to the court and this is error. Not that Roeder has a mind...

[proud2BlibKansan]

122. Son just walked in and listened for a minute and said

"He really believes he was justified in killing Tiller?"

[Dogtown]

93. Reccied. I'd like to see both your threads on the Greatest.

Thanks for your effort, Hepburn.

[Hepburn]

96. Thank for the rec...and you are welcome.

This is an unbelievable statement.

IMO, it sure makes me think about how much I need to protect women for people like Roeder. He is one of the most hateful people I have ever heard speak.

[uppityperson]

95. Is he really saying "god told me to do this" for his defense?

[Lyric]

98. No--he's saying that God demands that ALL people who disagree with abortion do this.

He's justifying his own action as a larger action of Christian Jihad. Sick.

I'm so fucking tired of religious douchebaggery in America.

[demtenjeep]

99. and he couldn't stand up for this?

dude is twisted

[Gin]

109. why cant he stand? his attorney is getting jittery...and bored

[Missy Vixen]

97. He's now advocating for government overthrow in his little "statement"

Keep it up, Roeder.

:eyes:

[Iggo]

100. This dude's gonna get his last fucking hurrah, huh.

Keep talking, fuckstick.

Then go away...forever.

[Missy Vixen]

102. Proud to be #5 K&R

I am ASTONISHED his attorney hasn't told him to STFU yet.

This is incredible.

[MiniMe]

104. He doesn't realize that HE denied Tiller to life

A total hypocrite

[Lyric]

Oh, he realizes it. He thinks he's justified.

He obviously considers himself to be some kind of martyr. What a twisted ego this asshole has.

[demtenjeep]

108. My BIL works at the prison this piece of shit will be living

will be interesting to see what stories he will have

[MiniMe]

130. I would have a hard time with that

But I'm sure that Roeder will expect the guards to protect him, even though he is a murderer of an already born person.

[uppityperson]

106. There is a Right to be Born? A Right to Exist? huh

[Hepburn]

110. Well, Roeder did convince me of one thing...

...cads always wear brown suits.

[MiniMe]

111. This anti-government rant should just about do it for him

Throw away the key

[Hepburn]

115. Yeah...

...I am waiting for the defense counsel to ask if there was some way to get Roeder the DP after all.

Man, I so feel for public defenders. Can you imagine having to do your duty to your oath to defend the state and US Const and THIS asshole is your client???

:puke:

[kestrel91316]

112. Duct tape, that's what we need. Shut this bible beater UP.

[Hepburn]

113. "Give me liberty to defend the unborn...or give me death..." Scott Roeder.

If that does not say it all. :puke:

[uppityperson]

114. OK. zap nt

[Lyric]

116. Just remember--this is his last hurrah.

He knows that this is THE LAST time he will EVER be anything but a sack of limp meat in a cell. Let him ramble. In the end, he's still going to prison until he's dead.

[Hepburn]

119. Thank God...

...what karma.

[demtenjeep]

117. I think he wanted to die

and be a martyr

[Hepburn]

120. Too bad they could not give him his last wish...

...can you imagine the impact on Dr. Tiller's family -- sitting there in the courtroom and having to listen to this verbal vomit?

:cry:

[Lyric]

123. Here's hoping that Jeanne brought her iPod.

I know *I* would have, lol.

[MiniMe]

118. Roeder's lawyer looks like he wants to tell him to STFU

He should

[Hepburn]

He looks like he wants the earth to open and swallow either him or Roeder whole!

Oh, what a load of shit...

[Lyric]

121. A murderer lecturing us all about the evils of murder.

Puh-fucking-leeze. Enjoy your cold showers, utter lack of toilet privacy, strip searches, beanie weenies, and bologna sandwiches for the rest of your life, asshole.

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[kestrel91316]

127. T-shirt: "I went to cnn.com and all I got was this fucking SERMON."

[MiniMe]

131. +1

Is he going to read the entire bible to put the sentencing off?

[Iggo]

132. Yeah, I had to turn it off.

I could only take so much.

[uppityperson]

128. Teachers are responsible? w.t.f?

[Lyric]

129. I bet he'd be fine with mass-murder every day so long as the victims are either gay or non-Christian

Psycho.

[Lebam in LA]

133. Have the Officers been standing around like that all day?

It looks like they are responding to something

[MiniMe]

136. Roeder had an outburst earlier

And the judge reprimanded him on it. I think it has to do with that. Add to that, it would be tempting to knock him off right now just to get him to shut up

[Lebam in LA]

151. Thank you

I missed most of it today and it looks very strange seeing the officers standing around like that.

[The Doctor.]

134. "heinious"?

Jesus H. Christ.

These people are idiots.

[Subdivisions]

135. Well, I had to go out while the court was in recess for lunch and missed

seeing the family's VIS and whatever Roeder had to say. Maybe there will be video available on YT. I'm guessing they gave him the Hard 50? Just got back home so haven't heard yet.

[MiniMe]

138. It is still going on

Roeder is speaking, and speaking, and speaking....

[malaise]

142. Judge interrupts

I've allowed your statement of beliefs and now you're heading into politics - it isnot a forum fo ryou to get on a soapbox with your entire political beliefs. I've allowed you great latitude...about 40 minutes. I'm going to stop you.

Thank you Judge.

[Hepburn]

147. Still going on...

...judge just reamed him.

Roeder has spoken or about 30 mins..maybe more...and it was all that anti-choice bullshit of the WORST ilk possible.

[Lyric]

152. It was worse than just anti-choice. It was Christian Jihadi Dominionist propaganda.

:puke:

[The Doctor.]

137. OMG... this idiot is trying to justify murder.

[Lyric]

139. ROFL. Give him hell, Judge!

[Hepburn]

140. Judge cut Roeder off...

...not a soap box...opportunity to speak on the sentence.

Yay, Judge...:applause:

[MiniMe]

150. Looks like Roeder is finishing his "testimony" to his lawyers off mic

[MiniMe]

141. Good for the judge, interrupted him

[blondeatlast]

145. Where is the broadcast? I'm on Tru but only seeing commentary. nt

[MiniMe]

154. CNN webcast

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T2

[blondeatlast]

167. Thanks--watching now. nt

[malaise]

157. I didn't kill him

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaah he chose to obey god not man - well man's law is about to lock your ass up in prison. STFU.

[MiniMe]

160. He'll face his maker someday too

Doubt he will make heaven

[proud2BlibKansan]

143. Judge is chasting him now

Good

[kestrel91316]

144. Judge bites Roeder's head off for making political statements not

relevant to sentencing. Hahahahahahaha!!!!

[The Doctor.]

146. Wow....

The Judge smacks him down.

[Bluerthanblue]

153. his attny. in the light colored suit clearly wishes this would end-nt

[Lyric]

148. I think they've cut the sound because he's conferring with his attorneys

Gotta maintain that privacy, I think.

[The Doctor.]

149. who else can lip-read?

[demtenjeep]

156. dude, you are a MURDER

you defended NO ONE

[Hepburn]

165. I can....but my phone rang so I did not see what went on. n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

155. wow, the judge good- nt

[malaise]

169. Please acquit me judge

listen to Gawd's laws and not the laws of the United States.
Ah put on your fucking orange jump suit and STFU.
Judge has torn him a new one. The fucker is now begging - too late murderer

[Bluerthanblue]

191. he's pitiful-

too bad he didn't display the kind of mercy to Dr.Tiller that he thinks he should be given- IMPORTANT note: -I do NOT think Dr.Tiller did anything that required mercy, but Roeder says he believes he did, and appointed himself 'unmerciful judge, jury and executioner.

If he really believes what Jesus said, then his own actions have condemned him.

[The Doctor.]

158. Does this fucking idiot not understand he's hanging himself?

[The Doctor.]

159. I'm calling it; Maximum Sentence.

[The Doctor.]

161. He's worked very hard at convincing the judge that he has no respect for the law,

and that nothing will stop him from killing again if he gets the chance.

[Lyric]

168. Hell, he's argued that people should ignore the law and obey "God's law"

And that's fine with me--just as soon as those people move to "God's Country", wherever that is. This is AMERICA. We don't have an official religion here.

[Lyric]

162. I agree. I think he'll get the 50-years-before-parole sentence.

Which is basically a life sentence, at his age.

[demtenjeep]

166. oh god. he wants the judge to acquit him and listen to God

dude is clearly a piece of shit

[Hepburn]

173. Yep....hard 50...

...wish he could get more.

Asshole...:mad:

[Bluerthanblue]

163. it should be life in prison-

he knew the price when he broke the law. He just said that.

[MiniMe]

164. Yup, so much for not doing it again

He has obviously said that he would do it again

[demtenjeep]

176. Just give him the sentence

back to back would be best

[malaise]

180. Don't you love that massive guard perched behind

Roeder.

[blondeatlast]

170. Waht a fucking asshole--any remorse in that self-pity, jerkface? nt

[uppityperson]

171. Judge should stand down, only be judged by God? whew. I am glad that

this extremism is coming out in public

[blondeatlast]

174. The judge is impressive--this could be a nightmare with a

poor judge.

[uppityperson]

182. Yup, the only thing should have comments of is sentencing, how long, etc

not whether is guilty or not. Only thing can do to change judge's mind is show ANY reason why should not get max sentence.

Good judge

[Lyric]

172. And of course, he's usurping the Holocaust now.

:eyes:

My Jewish ancestors SPIT on you, you self-righteous, egomaniacal bastard.

[Hepburn]

175. I have a Jewish background...

...and, I hear you totally. Same sentiments here.

[demtenjeep]

178. oh man, don't cut the mike

stuff is just getting good

[Lyric]

183. They always cut the mike when he's conferring with his attorneys.

Maintaining attorney-client privacy, etc. It's normal for any publicized court event.

[The Doctor.]

177. Yes, by all mean, if you want to lighten the sentence, argue with the Judge,

Slam public officials, argue your beliefs trump the law...

Brilliant!

[Lyric]

181. He knows he's going on to appeal. The judge knows it too.

So this is just for show. Just egotistical grandstanding from a self-righteous Dominionist Jihadi maniac.

[blondeatlast]

188. Yup. nt

[blondeatlast]

179. That defense attorney's getting pissed; watch his body language. nt

[demtenjeep]

186. Nola is awesome

she is so calm

[Bluerthanblue]

195. yes, she is- calm and very respectful

and smart.

[demtenjeep]

209. which is why she gets re-elected

much to roedents dismay

[blondeatlast]

184. Please, judge, don't allow this to be a political spectacle. So far. I'm impressed with him. nt

[The Doctor.]

185. I hope the judge gives him the 11 months...

then, after a pause, gives him the 13 months...

then, after a pause, gives him 50 years without parole...

such sentences to be served consecutively.

[Missy Vixen]

187. That place is CRAWLING with LEO's

I can't imagine how scared some of the court personnel are to even be in that building today. Has anyone else noticed the officer sitting directly in front of one guy in the crowd, turned to face him, and watching only him?

Thinking of all of them.

[blondeatlast]

192. As it should be. Let's see who REALLY cares about life when the sentence is handed down.

I don't think it will be Roeder's fanboys. I saw his ex-wife on Tru TV--she's fearful of him and wants to see the hard 50, as does Roeder's son.

[Missy Vixen]

202. If I worked in that courtroom, an escort to my car

and surveillance around our house would be the least of what I'd ask for.

Anyone who listened to the crap Roeder was spewing would have the hair standing up on the back of their necks at least.

[demtenjeep]

200. what is LEO?

I would love to be there in SUPPORT of the Tiller family

[Hepburn]

206. I think LEO is: Law Enforcement Officer. n/t

[Missy Vixen]

213. Law Enforcement Officers

It's not like I watch trials on TV all day long, but there seems to be at least one officer for every two people currently in that courtroom.

[kestrel91316]

189. Apparently Mr. Roeder wishes to introduce new evidence.

[Gin]

190. pictures of abortions I bet...doesnt proffer mean to put into the

record? if so...what he was reading would be added to the record..it was about the procedures and the bible

[Hepburn]

211. Proffer means...

to offer as proof.

[uppityperson]

193. Is that why they are conferring?

[Gin]

194. I think so

[MiniMe]

196. He just wants to get on his soapbox and continue his lecture er... sermon

[Missy Vixen]

197. Let him talk till Hell freezes over

The prosecuting attorney was attempting to prevent reversible error, IMHO, by just letting him go on.

The judge has already made his decision, IMHO.

I'm wondering if we'll see an actual sentencing tomorrow.

[Stephanie]

198. Where are you watching this? nt

[blondeatlast]

199. CNN websitte, Minime has the link above.

It took me forever to find out--props to Minime.

[MiniMe]

205. Actually, somebody else found it in the 1st thread

I am just passing the info along :hi:

[Bluerthanblue]

201. cnn link from first op- here is the link

(i hope)

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T2

[Stephanie]

216. thanks!

[uppityperson]

203. here is a link to cnn livestream

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T2

[MiniMe]

204. Here

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T2

No commercials :hi:

[Jkid]

207. I watching the stream just in time

[Hepburn]

208. Do we need an new thread?

If so, I can start it unless someone else wants to.

[uppityperson]

210. yes, please start one

[Hepburn]

212. Doing now....n/t

[demtenjeep]

214. yea, please start one

you rock

[blondeatlast]

215. OVERRULED (the docs). WTG, Judge! nt

[demtenjeep]

217. you killed a man in COLD blood mother fucker

you deserve WORSE

[Hepburn]

218. Link to new thread -- 3rd thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8070977

[The Doctor.]

219. Roeder is going to drag this out as long as he can.

He's a pathetic worm.