ROEDER SENTENCING -- THREAD #3

[Hepburn]

Hi, all...looks like this is gonna go on for a while longer.

[blondeatlast]

1. OVERRULED (the docs). WTG, Judge! nt

[Solly Mack]

2. K&R Thank you for keeping everyone posted!!!!

[Hepburn]

4. I have never seen a sentencing quite like it and you are welcome. n/t

[blondeatlast]

3. The victim "doesn't need to know he's being stalked"? WTF? nt

[uppityperson]

8. He thinks it's ok to stalk someone, so long as they don't know they are

being stalked? "mental anguish is no longer a requirement". Good.

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. Like Dr Tiller is better off now since he didn't know he was being stalked???

[Hepburn]

21. True...

...because it is the mind set of the defendant that is the ag circum at issue.

[Bluerthanblue]

5. wow, he's really squirming to avoid paying for what he did-

:shrug:

[blondeatlast]

6. Like a barrel of rattlesnakes. nt

[MiniMe]

9. He is trying

But I don't think it will work

[Bluerthanblue]

16. it shouldn't

I sure hope it doesn't.

[Jkid]

7. Judge is now getting to the aggrivated circumstances...

[demtenjeep]

13. I think everyone is getting a little pissed by this point

younger lawyer for roedent looks like he wants to shut him up

[uppityperson]

15. Going to finish tonight, crystalize what we are doing in these proceedings

[uppityperson]

17. mitigating factors must outweigh aggravated factors or I SHALL

impose severe sentence.

[blondeatlast]

25. "Shall" means "must" in the law. Roeder is fucked. nt

[Hepburn]

31. Yep...

...shall = mandatory. May = discretionary.

[kestrel91316]

19. Actually, Judge is now getting aggravated. Period.

[malaise]

10. He's fucking begging now

I'm lovin' this. Isn't it hilarious that he doesn't accept the law but thinks he knows it better than the fucking judge. Read him the law Judge then give him his fucking orange suit.

Don't you love all 'them there' security men waiting for the outburst.

[blondeatlast]

12. I hope they are the cream of Overland Park's crop; it's going to be a nightmare

when the gavel comes down.

[MiniMe]

14. He has stated many times that the courts are wrong

regarding their rulings on Roeder. He did himself in with his statement

[demtenjeep]

18. I hope someone captures this. I have to leave in a little while

I want to see the fuckers face when he gets the hard 50

[Gin]

23. please give him the hard 50...please

[malaise]

33. Should be a screen saver somewhere

:evilgrin:

[blondeatlast]

20. "My life is on the line here." BOO-fucking-HOO. What about Dr. tiller's life?

FUGGING ASSHOLE.

[Hepburn]

28. Let's see...

...I count, the unborn count, but Dr. Tiller doesn't. Way to go, Roeder...show the judge all the remorse you can.

:puke:

[Lyric]

22. "My life is on the line"

Did that statement enrage anyone else here? GOD, what a selfish bastard.

[uppityperson]

29. "I wasn't told I had limited time" sniff, boohoo. "refocuse your comments back to

mitigating...not limiting...have had over an hour"

[uppityperson]

39. The church I killed him in "wasn't a true church" because they didn't stop him and

tiller invaded the church of a woman's womb on a daily basis


Well, that certainly convinced me. Let him off.

If the church didn't "hold him accountable" it wasn't a true church.

[Bluerthanblue]

30. his life isn't on the line, unless the death penalty is in play-

it isn't is it?

[Bluerthanblue]

24. can Roeder just keep talking forever?

I mean can he fillibuster this endlessly??

[Lyric]

27. No, the judge will shut him down if he doesn't keep his comments relevant.

[omega minimo]

26. "It's the state of Kansas fault more than mine... He was their hit man."

Will he ever wake up from his insanity.

[kestrel91316]

32. This judge is PISSED. He's getting hard 50. He may as well sit down and shut up.

Judge will impose DP for the hell of it if he continues with this crap.

[malaise]

36. Tiller's church was not the true church

WTF??????

[Gin]

41. how can you defend this slug? now all the chruch members

are responsible............god....shut the F Up

[blondeatlast]

46. My bet is that the defense team is being funded by anti-choice operatives. nt

[demtenjeep]

34. what an arrogant piece of SHIT

what a douche

[Hepburn]

35. WTF???????

The Lutheran Church is NOT a true church????

But a female uterus is?????? :wow:

[blondeatlast]

40. I guess that means my lover attends church a few days a week... nt

[malaise]

44. The judge has shut him up again

going for political diatribe re character assassination of the Lutheran Church - not mitigating you fucker.

Now he wants to speak to expectant mothers.
Judge say no - no forum for your views on abortion.

add

[Bluerthanblue]

37. omg.... I wish he'd just shut up.

...

[The Doctor.]

38. OMG!

'His was the church of Satan'.


:crazy:

[demtenjeep]

45. now wants to speak to expectant mothers

SHUT THIS FUCKER UP

[Bluerthanblue]

42. such incredible patience being shown by the judge.

[MiniMe]

43. I think I love this judge

He is doing a good job cutting through the shit and cutting Roeder off

[uppityperson]

51. and again "all you expectant mothers..." stopped him again.

won't let him talk all night on political views. How does this show you couldn't conform to requirements of the law?

[malaise]

52. Man this is bullshit

Sentence this fucking paranoid murderer judge - enough patience.

[Missy Vixen]

47. "I'd like to speak to all you expectant mothers"...

Oh, yeah.

I'm only sorry the judge cut him off.

[MiniMe]

48. Roeder: "I want to speak to the expectant mothers out there.." and the judge cuts him off

He is doing a great job

[Hepburn]

54. Speaking to children who were not aborted after 2009...

...hoooooooo-weeeeeeeeee!!!!

Talk about arrogant...like HE is responsible for making sure they got to live cuz he killed Dr. Tiller?????

:puke:

[The Doctor.]

49. Wow... thinks this is a platform.

Please judge, hold him in contempt.

[Hepburn]

50. Now, he's talking to the Mothers????

GMAFB...!!!

[malaise]

58. 50 years for protecting life

25years for protecting life - that's uncalled for.

STFU Roeder - you murdered Dr Tiller.

[kestrel91316]

53. Nominate this judge for sainthood for REFRAINING FROM GETTING DOWN OFF THE BENCH

AND STRANGLING ROEDER PERSONALLY.

[Bluerthanblue]

57. incredible self restraint- I could never have dealt with this

as patiently and professionally- not in my dreams.

[Jkid]

55. Time for that Judge to shut Roeder up.

[uppityperson]

56. That's why you feel relief, feel no guilt of remorse. OMG, women that couldn't get

an abortion since they weren't available, so talk with those children in 20 yrs? WTf?

[Gin]

61. why so many police in the courtroom? do they think he has supporters

in there to cause problems or is it him?

[Stephanie]

63. I like the one chewing gum.

[malaise]

67. I don't know but I'm sure watching to see his reaction

Fuck him.

[uppityperson]

59. I like how judge cuts him off "character assasination again"

[Hepburn]

60. Atty Rudy addressing the court...

...finally, Roeder STFU!

[uppityperson]

62. Wants prosecution to say mitigating factors. Judge says no, defense goes first

[uppityperson]

64. Mitigating factor is defendant was unable to control himself according to law.

huh

[uppityperson]

66. Take his age into account, won't be out until mid 70's, won't be a threat.

as if

[uppityperson]

68. State: has significant history of criminal activity, more incidents of willing to

kill Dr. Tiller. Several times ready, willing, able to kill.. Many. Bunch of them. Significant history

[uppityperson]

70. Defendant knew this was criminal but decided it needed to be done.

Guilty of a heinous murder. He chose to kill. He has capacity to not kill but chose to kill.

(judge shuts up roeder)

[uppityperson]

71. He has none of that (impaired severe mental illness) but simply wants to do what he wants to do

re aggravating factors, mitigating factors are insignificant by weight. Stalking, plan, cruelty (decided yrs back that the church was place to murder) and today talks bad about that church. Continued acts of terror.

[Hepburn]

65. I am thinking from this that it is the burden of proof that switches once...

...there is a determination of ag factors. Since def has the mit factors, that is why they have not only the burden of proof, but the burden of producing evidence.

[malaise]

78. He's interrupting the judge

This is going to get ugly.

Cops getting closer to Roeder by the moment.

add

[Bluerthanblue]

69. Nola Rocks- Roeder usurped the God he claims to serve-

good on her!!!

[Hepburn]

74. That was outstanding! n/t

[Missy Vixen]

72. Wooo! The DA uses the T word!

Go get 'em!

Damn right it's terrorism!

[kestrel91316]

73. Prosecutor speaking the truth: TERRORISM!!!!!

[The Doctor.]

75. Al-Qaeda kills for the same reasons Roeder did.

'Their God commands them.'

[uppityperson]

76. "Developed strongly held beliefs, taken him to fringe of society"

Conduct, ability to conform with law was only partially taken away.

[MiniMe]

77. Roeder is so fried

The judge is slapping him down, and Roeder talks back to him again

[Hepburn]

79. That cuz Roeder thinks GOD speaks through him.

What an arrogant POS.

[Bluerthanblue]

80. Roeder is displaying that he doesn't feel the need to obey the rules-

by continually interrupting the Judge.

[uppityperson]

81. Trying to interrupt judge "but babies were dying". Judge: motivated by beliefs, knew was wrong

[malaise]

85. hard fucking 50

GO to jail.

[uppityperson]

87. NO MITIGATING FACTORS TO OUTWEIGH, 50 yrs!

[kestrel91316]

82. Keeps interrupting the judge, trying to shout him down

[Dinger]

83. HARD 50!!!!!!!!!

Fuck you roeder!

[NYC_SKP]

84. Fifty to Life. (Live sentence, no parole hearings until after 50 years)

:applause:

Life with parole eligibility AFTER 50 years.

If he lives to 102 years old, he'll have to pay an additional $100 fee.

He has the right to appeal, of course, with appellate attorney provided.

:patriot:

[malaise]

Is that the Tiller family? n/t

[NYC_SKP]

114. It wasn't specified, but...

...I assumed it was some court processing cost or similar.

:shrug:

[Jkid]

106. An additional $100 fine?

Why?

[MiniMe]

86. Hard 50

Woo Hoo.

[Solly Mack]

88. Good!

[Bluerthanblue]

89. the court officers are circling, is this usual?

[blondeatlast]

90. 6 LEO's IN the courtroom--wonder how many are outside?

[mrs_p]

91. it just doesn't seem enough to me

i pray for peace for dr. tiller's wife and family

[The Doctor.]

92. Oh no! He lost his 2nd Amendment rights!

The freepers are going to be PISSED!

[kestrel91316]

93. Fucker better not be permitted to have a fan club and keep promoting his damned JIHAD from prison.

[blondeatlast]

94. Amen (well, maybe not the best choice of words, but yeah.) nt

[Maru Kitteh]

95. What was that wretched a-hole yelling when they hauled him away?

[kestrel91316]

96. Some "baby killer" crap directed toward the judge.......

[uppityperson]

97. the babies

[blondeatlast]

99. "you have the blood of babies on your hands" naming the judge, the prosecutors, etc.

We aren't dealing with an Einstein here.

[Missy Vixen]

102. Doesn't give a shit about his own "babies"

but it's all about the fetii.

:eyes:

[Bluerthanblue]

101. "blood on your hands Nola,"... and someone elses name...

what a sorry, pitiful twisted fool.

[Maru Kitteh]

103. Well now he can "counsel" a few thousand male inmates not to have abortions

for the next 50+ years.

[Hepburn]

108. He can be a PRISON sidewalk counselor...

...Go to Jail, Straight to Jail...do not pass go... and STFU for the next 50 years!

Yes!!!!!!!

[Missy Vixen]

98. Law enforcement had him out of there in seconds

They also escorted the Tiller family out before anyone else was allowed to leave.

I've never seen anything like this.

I'm glad we won't see Roeder for the next 50 years.

[blondeatlast]

100. That was impressive. Kudos to them. nt

[Bluerthanblue]

104. yes, they were very ready for his antics, and very aware for

the Tiller family.

This must have been hellish for them, even with the verdict.

[UTUSN]

105. This is one of those times that even JUSTICE is not enough. n/t

[Hepburn]

107. Thanks for all the up dates...

...just as this was coming down, I got a business phone call.

Hard 50...:applause:

[Hepburn]

109. "The blood of babies is on your hands," Roeder yelled before being led out of the Wichita courtroom.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/04/roeder-gets-life-in-prison-for-murdering-abortion-doctor/1

Roeder, Tiller's blood is on YOUR hands. Get it yet??

[Iggo]

110. Nice play-by-play, Folks.

I had some work to finish up (Pacific time here). But reading throught the posts, I feel like I was there.

Thanks everyone for the updates!
Have a drink on me.


:toast: :beer:

[Hepburn]

112. You are welcome...it was quite the day in that courtroom.

Poor judge and, oh, I felt so sorry for the Tiller family having to listen to Roeder vomit all that bullshit on and on.

[Iggo]

113. Yeah.

I was watching them earlier in the day and I felt so bad for them as I was watching them try to hold it together and not always succeeding. Just heartbreaking.

[Hekate]

111. You guys rock! I wasn't able to get a live stream, but your comments were better!

"Better" because I would not have been able to watch or listen to that SOB's antics without throwing things.

Hekate


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