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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:10 PM Original message |
ROEDER SENTENCING -- THREAD #3 |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. OVERRULED (the docs). WTG, Judge! nt |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R Thank you for keeping everyone posted!!!! |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I have never seen a sentencing quite like it and you are welcome. n/t |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. The victim "doesn't need to know he's being stalked"? WTF? nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. He thinks it's ok to stalk someone, so long as they don't know they are |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Like Dr Tiller is better off now since he didn't know he was being stalked??? |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. True... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. wow, he's really squirming to avoid paying for what he did- |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Like a barrel of rattlesnakes. nt |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. He is trying |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. it shouldn't |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Judge is now getting to the aggrivated circumstances... |
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demtenjeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I think everyone is getting a little pissed by this point |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Going to finish tonight, crystalize what we are doing in these proceedings |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. mitigating factors must outweigh aggravated factors or I SHALL |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. "Shall" means "must" in the law. Roeder is fucked. nt |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Yep... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Actually, Judge is now getting aggravated. Period. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. He's fucking begging now |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I hope they are the cream of Overland Park's crop; it's going to be a nightmare |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. He has stated many times that the courts are wrong |
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demtenjeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I hope someone captures this. I have to leave in a little while |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. please give him the hard 50...please |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Should be a screen saver somewhere |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. "My life is on the line here." BOO-fucking-HOO. What about Dr. tiller's life? |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Let's see... |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
22. "My life is on the line" |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. "I wasn't told I had limited time" sniff, boohoo. "refocuse your comments back to |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. The church I killed him in "wasn't a true church" because they didn't stop him and |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. his life isn't on the line, unless the death penalty is in play- |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
24. can Roeder just keep talking forever? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. No, the judge will shut him down if he doesn't keep his comments relevant. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
26. "It's the state of Kansas fault more than mine... He was their hit man." |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
32. This judge is PISSED. He's getting hard 50. He may as well sit down and shut up. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Tiller's church was not the true church |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. how can you defend this slug? now all the chruch members |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. My bet is that the defense team is being funded by anti-choice operatives. nt |
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demtenjeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. what an arrogant piece of SHIT |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
35. WTF??????? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I guess that means my lover attends church a few days a week... nt |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. The judge has shut him up again |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
37. omg.... I wish he'd just shut up. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
38. OMG! |
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demtenjeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. now wants to speak to expectant mothers |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
42. such incredible patience being shown by the judge. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
43. I think I love this judge |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. and again "all you expectant mothers..." stopped him again. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Man this is bullshit |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. "I'd like to speak to all you expectant mothers"... |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
48. Roeder: "I want to speak to the expectant mothers out there.." and the judge cuts him off |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Speaking to children who were not aborted after 2009... |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
49. Wow... thinks this is a platform. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
50. Now, he's talking to the Mothers???? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. 50 years for protecting life |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
53. Nominate this judge for sainthood for REFRAINING FROM GETTING DOWN OFF THE BENCH |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. incredible self restraint- I could never have dealt with this |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
55. Time for that Judge to shut Roeder up. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
56. That's why you feel relief, feel no guilt of remorse. OMG, women that couldn't get |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. why so many police in the courtroom? do they think he has supporters |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I like the one chewing gum. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I don't know but I'm sure watching to see his reaction |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
59. I like how judge cuts him off "character assasination again" |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
60. Atty Rudy addressing the court... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Wants prosecution to say mitigating factors. Judge says no, defense goes first |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Mitigating factor is defendant was unable to control himself according to law. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Take his age into account, won't be out until mid 70's, won't be a threat. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. State: has significant history of criminal activity, more incidents of willing to |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Defendant knew this was criminal but decided it needed to be done. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. He has none of that (impaired severe mental illness) but simply wants to do what he wants to do |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I am thinking from this that it is the burden of proof that switches once... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. He's interrupting the judge |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
69. Nola Rocks- Roeder usurped the God he claims to serve- |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. That was outstanding! n/t |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
72. Wooo! The DA uses the T word! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
73. Prosecutor speaking the truth: TERRORISM!!!!! |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
75. Al-Qaeda kills for the same reasons Roeder did. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
76. "Developed strongly held beliefs, taken him to fringe of society" |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
77. Roeder is so fried |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. That cuz Roeder thinks GOD speaks through him. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
80. Roeder is displaying that he doesn't feel the need to obey the rules- |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
81. Trying to interrupt judge "but babies were dying". Judge: motivated by beliefs, knew was wrong |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. hard fucking 50 |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. NO MITIGATING FACTORS TO OUTWEIGH, 50 yrs! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
82. Keeps interrupting the judge, trying to shout him down |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
83. HARD 50!!!!!!!!! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
84. Fifty to Life. (Live sentence, no parole hearings until after 50 years) |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:51 PM Original message |
Is that the Tiller family? n/t |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
114. It wasn't specified, but... |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
106. An additional $100 fine? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
86. Hard 50 |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
88. Good! |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
89. the court officers are circling, is this usual? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
90. 6 LEO's IN the courtroom--wonder how many are outside? |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
91. it just doesn't seem enough to me |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
92. Oh no! He lost his 2nd Amendment rights! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
93. Fucker better not be permitted to have a fan club and keep promoting his damned JIHAD from prison. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Amen (well, maybe not the best choice of words, but yeah.) nt |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
95. What was that wretched a-hole yelling when they hauled him away? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Some "baby killer" crap directed toward the judge....... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. the babies |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. "you have the blood of babies on your hands" naming the judge, the prosecutors, etc. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Doesn't give a shit about his own "babies" |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. "blood on your hands Nola,"... and someone elses name... |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Well now he can "counsel" a few thousand male inmates not to have abortions |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. He can be a PRISON sidewalk counselor... |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
98. Law enforcement had him out of there in seconds |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. That was impressive. Kudos to them. nt |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. yes, they were very ready for his antics, and very aware for |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
105. This is one of those times that even JUSTICE is not enough. n/t |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
107. Thanks for all the up dates... |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
109. "The blood of babies is on your hands," Roeder yelled before being led out of the Wichita courtroom. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
110. Nice play-by-play, Folks. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. You are welcome...it was quite the day in that courtroom. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Yeah. |
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111. You guys rock! I wasn't able to get a live stream, but your comments were better! |
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