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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:37 AM
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Bush signs executive order that increases his sway over government regulations
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/washington/30rules.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&or

WASHINGTON, Jan. 29 — President Bush has signed a directive that gives the White House much greater control over the rules and policy statements that the government develops to protect public health, safety, the environment, civil rights and privacy.

In an executive order published last week in the Federal Register, Mr. Bush said that each agency must have a regulatory policy office run by a political appointee, to supervise the development of rules and documents providing guidance to regulated industries. The White House will thus have a gatekeeper in each agency to analyze the costs and the benefits of new rules and to make sure the agencies carry out the president’s priorities.

This strengthens the hand of the White House in shaping rules that have, in the past, often been generated by civil servants and scientific experts. It suggests that the administration still has ways to exert its power after the takeover of Congress by the Democrats.

The White House said the executive order was not meant to rein in any one agency. But business executives and consumer advocates said the administration was particularly concerned about rules and guidance issued by the Environmental Protection Agency and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.


In an interview on Monday, Jeffrey A. Rosen, general counsel at the White House Office of Management and Budget, said, “This is a classic good-government measure that will make federal agencies more open and accountable.”

Business groups welcomed the executive order, saying it had the potential to reduce what they saw as the burden of federal regulations. This burden is of great concern to many groups, including small businesses, that have given strong political and financial backing to Mr. Bush.

Consumer, labor and environmental groups denounced the executive order, saying it gave too much control to the White House and would hinder agencies’ efforts to protect the public.

Typically, agencies issue regulations under authority granted to them in laws enacted by Congress. In many cases, the statute does not say precisely what agencies should do, giving them considerable latitude in interpreting the law and developing regulations.

The directive issued by Mr. Bush says that, in deciding whether to issue regulations, federal agencies must identify “the specific market failure” or problem that justifies government intervention.

Besides placing political appointees in charge of rule making, Mr. Bush said agencies must give the White House an opportunity to review “any significant guidance documents” before they are issued.

The Office of Management and Budget already has an elaborate process for the review of proposed rules. But in recent years, many agencies have circumvented this process by issuing guidance documents, which explain how they will enforce federal laws and contractual requirements.

Peter L. Strauss, a professor at Columbia Law School, said the executive order “achieves a major increase in White House control over domestic government.”

“Having lost control of Congress,” Mr. Strauss said, “the president is doing what he can to increase his control of the executive branch.”

Representative Henry A. Waxman, Democrat of California and chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said: “The executive order allows the political staff at the White House to dictate decisions on health and safety issues, even if the government’s own impartial experts disagree. This is a terrible way to govern, but great news for special interests.”

Business groups hailed the initiative.

“This is the most serious attempt by any chief executive to get control over the regulatory process, which spews out thousands of regulations a year,” said William L. Kovacs, a vice president of the United States Chamber of Commerce. “Because of the executive order, regulations will be less onerous and more reasonable. Federal officials will have to pay more attention to the costs imposed on business, state and local governments, and society.”

Under the executive order, each federal agency must estimate “the combined aggregate costs and benefits of all its regulations” each year. Until now, agencies often tallied the costs and the benefits of major rules one by one, without measuring the cumulative effects.


Gary D. Bass, executive director of O.M.B. Watch, a liberal-leaning consumer group that monitors the Office of Management and Budget, criticized Mr. Bush’s order, saying, “It will result in more delay and more White House control over the day-to-day work of federal agencies.”

“By requiring agencies to show a ‘market failure,’ ” Dr. Bass said, “President Bush has created another hurdle for agencies to clear before they can issue rules protecting public health and safety.”
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:44 AM
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1. I clicked on this thread to see if it was the MSM version
or the Onion version.

Because just by the headlines you can't tell anymore.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:50 AM
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5. True.nt
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:44 AM
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2. jeez you would think they are trying to set up a corporate facist state
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:00 PM
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33. This is going above ..
and beyond...just out of control corruption...there must be someone or some people out there who will one day snap and "had enough" of their crap and assassinate them all...it seems like America's only hope to stop these criminal thugs in our government....time to put pressure on our Congress to reign in these criminals...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:45 AM
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3. I thought we could stop this but now I'm not so sure:
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:05 PM
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45. Sure we can
We can stop anything. The question is, how much are you and other people willing to pay?

It's just that now, the cost has gone beyond monetary terms into personal sacrifice, so people are naturally even more hesitant to consider what all that entails.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:00 PM
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48. Action required by Duer's. Here is a list of people to email:

Please write your representatives to stop action on this order.

It is their job to contain presidential power to the confines of the Constitution. Most are lawyers so they should know how to put a hold on this power grab until the laws can be studied. Demand that they halt any illegal or seemingly illegal maneuvers that the Executive branch has usurped to consolidate federal power. We are who they must protect from tyrannical unchecked rule. Insist they do their job.

Duers, I ask you to write or use what sounds appropriate from my letter to let them know they will answer to us unless they listen to us.


Dear Senator or House Rep,

It has come the the attention of many that the Bush administration has been gathering unchecked power through any avenue that is open. We insist that as controllers of Congressional power you act to stop the George Bush executive order described in the following article presented by the New York times.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/washington/30rules.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&or


It is your duty to protect your constituents from unexplained and unneeded overreach by this inept or misleading administration. Please act on this immediately before it is used to weaken our democracy or silence our voice.
Thank you for the outstanding job your are responsible to do. That is why I chose you to do it.

Here are the sites that contain your reps contacts:


http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Senate and House contacts

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml


POWER TO THE PEOPLE!........ THAT'S YOU!
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:28 PM
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49. Thanks!NT
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:42 PM
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54. Good idea- That should be a separate post.
Its lost in this "hugh" thread...
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 11:00 AM
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64. Thanks.
I will write this afternoon.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:47 AM
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4. Screw the Bush - Hitler comparisons. Bush - Stalin would be more appropriate.
Honestly, this administration is getting away with things that would have made Stalin envious.
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Verde Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:01 PM
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6. Great. Add that to new laws restricting awards in liability cases
and you have profit driven safety programs.

Welcome back, asbestos and lead base paint!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:16 PM
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7. can't we reign in this runaway president?
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:36 PM
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11. Only if Congress has the cojones...
I'm thinking that the point is coming where even Republicans in Congress are going to revolt against this president.

...but that me just wishful thinking
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:17 PM
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8. It is not meant to rein in any one agency . . .
. . . it is meant to rein in ALL agencies.

:grr:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:20 PM
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9. Bush*/Cheney will NOT be swayed by public or democratic congress.
They flatly don't give a shit what the people or Congress thinks. PERIOD.

Cheney said as much last week.

IMPEACH
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:21 PM
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26. yea, they don't give a shit about laws or us, they don't care
what Congress says, but hopefully, the Congress isn't going to sit back on this either, am I hoping to much.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:31 PM
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30. He also implied
that we'd be engaged in foreign wars for many years to come. They are abusing their power to effect military confrontations for the future. This is how they intend to continue treasury looting long after they're out of office.
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:00 PM
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32. This is what it's all about--absolute power.
IMPEACH NO-W!!!!!

These bastards have to be stopped before it's too late!!

:mad: :mad: F***ing :mad:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:05 PM
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35. Nor will they be "swayed" by the constitution, habeus corpus, voters rights,
our democratic model of government ... It seems he's just made himself King?

Mr. Bush said that each agency must have a regulatory policy office run by a political appointee, to supervise the development of rules and documents providing guidance to regulated industries. The White House will thus have a gatekeeper in each agency to analyze the costs and the benefits of new rules and to make sure the agencies carry out the president’s priorities.
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:21 PM
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10. This can't be constitutional, can it?
I just got another huge knot in my stomach reading this. I thought I was jaded to the point where they couldn't shock me with their audacity but they've done it again. Oh, what a world.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:37 PM
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12. Thats never bothered him before :-/
"Its just a piece of paper" :sarcasm:

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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:38 PM
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14. Technically, I think it is....
Constitutional Law experts may feel free to wade it, but as I understand it, Congress passes the laws and the Executive Branch administers them. While it's always been a President's perogative to determine just how these laws are implented, for the past 100 years the implementation has been left to experts and civil servants. Bush appears to be politicizing the federal government is ways that haven't been seen in more than a century.
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NegSpin Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:38 PM
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13. Contradictory?
It seems kind of odd that Bush can't do anything right, yet he wants the power to do it all.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:39 PM
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15. Just think of all the work required to reverse this Admin's power grab.
In addition to depleting the treasury and sacrificing America's young in Iraq this evil cabal has created a quasi-fascist regime that will take years and years to reverse. Instead of advancing Democracy this Administration has moved it back in time - thanks to Repugs everywhere that voted them in.

:sarcasm:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:58 PM
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24. You are so correct.
Laws are one thing but implementing your agenda through policy is quite another. Purging the EPA & Forest Service of people who actually cared about air, water & our national treasures was the beginning. Once those people were forced out or marginalized, the huge bureaucratic machine started reversing those policies. By the time the destroyer of all worlds leaves office, if indeed he does, it will take a monumental effort to reverse his destructive policies which will hang on for years. We will be dealing w/ the policy failures of this administration for the next 80 years.
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amb123 Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:43 PM
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16. K & R! Impeach "El Commandante" Bush!
This order means that big-bother corporations can rewrite government regulations to their liking through the White House directly and all but destroys the power of the Congress to regulate anything. This is another attempt by "El Commandante" Bush to destroy the Constitutional balance of power and concentrate all power in his hands and rendering Congress and the Courts impotent.

TREASON! TREASON! TREASON!

IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY NOW!

EACH DAY THEY REMAIN IN POWER, THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS DIES!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:48 PM
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17. Why can't the courts step up and stop this fascist?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:49 PM
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18. K&R
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:50 PM
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19. We now have Zampolits - Political Commissars
Edited on Tue Jan-30-07 12:51 PM by Xipe Totec
Red States,

Loyalty oaths,

Gulags in Gitmo,

Closed Borders,

and now, political officers...

Our Transformation into the New Soviet Union Continues.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:55 PM
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20. IMPEACH!!!!!!
IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH ........before they destroy us completely.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:56 PM
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21. Agreed.nt
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:57 PM
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22. Political appointee? WTF?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:23 PM
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29. Yeah buddy...
get a yes-man in there to make sure that all agencies back up the bushista version of 'truth'.

No more bothersome people with alternative views or anything... bushistas get to do whatever they want with even less resistance.

Doesn't it sound great?!
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:32 PM
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51. Yep. Let's return to the Spoils Ssytem
and make believe the Pendleton Act, the Hatch Act, and the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 never existed.:sarcasm:
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:57 PM
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23. K&R
:mad:
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:18 PM
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25. k&r
:cry:
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:21 PM
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27. In other words, consolidate his Un-Constitutional and Un-American power grab as "unitary. . .
. . .authoritarian executive")

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:21 PM
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28. This is huge...
Write letters to the editor (LTTEs).

Contact your representative and senators.

Talk to your friends, family, anyone who will listen.

We don't want a King George!
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ftr23532 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:55 PM
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31. K&R!
:kick:
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:05 PM
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34. In other words: "Just go ahead and have your little bothersome
mid-term elections. See if I give a damn."

Heh
Heh
Heh
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:27 PM
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36. "Marketplace" report from Friday
This month President Bush changed how regulations are written in Washington. Now agencies can't impose new rules until they've specifically shown how the free market has failed. Rick Melberth, the director of regulatory policy at OMB Watch — a non-profit advocacy group — says the new rule is bizarre.

RICK MELBERTH: It seems to me that the purpose of regulation is to establish the role of government in protecting people. If you are going to rely on the markets, my problem with that would be that you've got to wait until someone gets sick or dies before you recognize the market failure.

Melberth worries these changes could make it tough for the feds to take action to keep E-coli out of your spinach salad or chemical waste out of your coffee.

Full transcript and audio: http://marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2007/01/26/PM200701267.html
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heinz Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:44 PM
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37. Bush is as bad as Chavez
I think Bush believes he can rule by decree just like Chavez in Venezuela.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:05 PM
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39. Welcome to DU...I think...
Edited on Tue Jan-30-07 03:11 PM by nam78_two
:yoiks:...
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:30 PM
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42. He is a lot worse than Chavez
Get back to us when Chavez has caused the death of 700,000+ people and the destruction of an entire country...

Heinz eh...? Real subtle choice of nick there btw..."Ho ho"...:eyes:
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:52 PM
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38. Has Repug BizzaroWorld actually started spinning faster?
The AG firing and appointing w/o Senate hearings - Agencies to be 'guided' by political appointees - ordering an escalation of troop levels w/o Congress - all this within 90 days of an unbelievable mandate from the American public - what are the balance of our days with this madman at the helm going to bring us?
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ManWroteTheBible Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:13 PM
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40. I believe...
it's time to put impeachment back on the table!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:36 PM
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43. Even if it just slows them down a little bit.
It is already staggering to think of the clean-up job ahead. Please don't let Caligula Bush take this country further down. :cry:
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:25 PM
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41. Sounds like a firewall
between the Democratic Congress and his favorite special interest groups, which is all of them.
It also protects his contributors from the EPA and OSHA within his own admin.

Don't his supporters know these privileges will be passed on to future administrations?
Will the Repubs be happy if Pres Rodham has a choke hold on American Govt?

That's a question I like to ask my few Buxhbot friends at times like this.
At first I get a puzzled look, then sheer horror.
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Bob Loblaw Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:42 PM
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44. AKA Political Officers...
in the old Soviet Union.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:47 PM
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46. Confirming what we already knew...
What a complete bastard. I am aware that few (if any) of us here thought Bush meant it when he pledged to be bi-partisan, but here's the proof.

I am a Health and Safety Officer, regulations CAN be cumbersome and difficult to understand (you get to do a lot of cross referencing) but in no way does this move seek to address that. For example there is a lot of overlap between OSHA, fire and building codes, EPA and DOT etc. This is just a ploy to make it easier to sandbag what everybody knows are good ideas.

For examples google "ergonomics standard" and "revised PELs." PELs are permissible exposure limits (to airborne contamination) and that standard was promulgated more than 30 years and the state of knowledge has certainly advanced since then. The effort to update the standard was sandbagged in court and is effectively dead. The ergonomics standard never was adopted. This just makes it less expensive to kill ideas like these in court. :mad:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:48 PM
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47. What Midterm Elections?
Where is the change? Where are the guts? IMPEACH these Fascists!
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:31 PM
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50. Only a person who has major mental
and emotional problems would sign such an order in a DEMOCRACY.

When are we going to see that the 25th Amendment is our way out of this mess? Even Pelosi has referred to him as 'dangerous.'

He is at the minimum a dry drunk...and maybe not as 'dry' as we think.

The 25th Amendment is the clean, easy way out of this!
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:06 PM
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52. And the proof would be obtained how?
I'm not against your idea, just consider it implausible.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 10:44 PM
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59. I think the idea simply needs to gain
momentum...the Press could be encouraged to get on board with some articles about his being a dry dunk. How many times have you read the word, MADMAN, about *? I don't believe it is a hard sell. In fact, I think the Repugnants would be the ones most interested in selling it.

I do believe the man is a sadistic psychopath, as well as a dry drunk. And there have been reports that he has been drinking as well as on anti-depressants....especially around the time of Katrina. Remember his jaw tics at the time?

Even if it were spun as his drinking problem resurfacing because of the stress of the war....anything that would place doubt on his mental competentcy could give us the 25th Amendment. Hell, I would be happy with a down-home, old-fashioned Intervention....and just send him to Rehab along with Mel Gibson and Mark Foley. To me, it's a very clean way to get rid of him....and I think the repugnants would love to go along with it.

And the international community would accept it...and be ever so happy to be rid of this dictator. Could be much easier and quicker than impeachment....
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:27 AM
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63. Another sign that his mental state is deteriorating:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_has_near_tractor_accident_in_0131.html

After all we have 58% of the American people who just want his 'reign' over..using the 25th Amendment is an easy way to get rid of him....people 'get' that he's 'nuts.'

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:07 PM
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53. The Congress must challenge him and put him in his place.
This is unacceptable!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:49 PM
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55. He's taking over this country Heres the next step
He can now fire and change rules and regulations by not enforcing
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:13 PM
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56. "May you live in interesting times."
Damn!
I mean... Damn!



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H2O Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:35 AM
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61. Where are
Ghenghis Cohen and his Silver Horde when we need them? LOL! :evilgrin:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:55 PM
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57. WHEN WILL CONGRESS STOP THIS EVIL BASTARD?
:mad: :argh: :grr: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :banghead:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 10:00 PM
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58. I pray soon
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:42 AM
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60. In 2008 I want to elect a Democratic President who'll take all these rules that Bush wrote and *use*
them in ways that big businesses and their Republican lackeys will despise.

And use the power that Cheney/Bush gave the executive office to undo and redo everything they did. Including, eventually, these pro-create-a-dictator rules.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:59 AM
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62. This smacks of Nazi & Communist Party Tactics......
to appoint political officers to inform and make policy of what rules & regulations are to be followed according to that political party.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:15 PM
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65. Stovepiping the EPA?
And everyone else.....
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deadcenter Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:31 AM
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66. Anything
done by one executive order can be undone by another executive order. If the next occupant of the White House has the will, he or she can undue this with the stroke of a pen.

If not completely undone, simply rewrite the powers given to these SES personnel, redefine their job description and turn them into extremely well paid figureheads.
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