Aspartane is now "AminoSweet".

[trof]

If you're steering clear of this artificial sweetener, beware the name change.
http://www.foodbev.com/news/ajinomoto-brands-aspartame-aminosweet

[dixiegrrrrl]

1. Good catch !!!

[Codeine]

7. Dumb catch.

His post was nonsense.

[arcadian]

2. I hate aspertame but love aminosweet -the American consumer

[Name removed]

3. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[tammywammy]

9. What????

Nutrasweet is aspartame!?!?!?!?








;)

[northernlights]

4. thanks for the reminder

think I'll just stay safe and stick to stevia.

[jmowreader]

5. It's just one brand of aspartame, not the chemical itself

It'll still be listed as Aspartame on the ingredients statement of anything it's in.

[Codeine]

6. Thank you.

I weep for these people some days, I really fucking do.

[peacebird]

10. good grief Codeine - not everyone knows aspartame is sold under multiple names

Why are you so *b1tchy* about it? :wtf: There are some topics I follow closely, some I don't - I appreciate a heads up to avoid the more "kind and gentle" sounding AminoSweet (it is really aspartame with a new name).

[Codeine]

26. I hate stupidity.

I hate lack of basic common sense. I hate easily debunk email spam that anybody with two brain cells to rub together can see is nonsense.

Mostly I hate seeing this stuff on DU because I'd like to believe we're a slightly smarter-than-average bunch of folks.

And you didn't need a "heads-up" to a "more kind and gentle-sounding name" because it'll still say aspartame on the friggin' box just like it says on Equal and on NutraSweet boxes.

[omega minimo]

37. You hate

... and it's okay for "slightly smarter-than-average bunch of folks" to be concerned about the impacts and un/intended consequences of something like this on public health.

Use your brain.

[Codeine]

39. Does it bother you when it is sold as NutraSweet?

It still says aspartame on the friggin box.

[trof]

60. I hate people who call people dumb and stupid.

Even my 7 year old grandson has better manners than that.
A tactful explanation would have been appropriate, not ranting and name calling.
Buh-bye.

[Statistical]

63. Hating is not good for the soul and you seem to hate a lot. n/t

[Codeine]

66. If I believed in souls I'd be worried.

:evilgrin: But I take your point, sir.

[jmowreader]

29. Reading labels is good, 'kay?

If the product has this brand of aspartame--and in the US that's not too likely; NutraSweet seems to have our market locked up--it will still say "aspartame" in the ingredients statement, and it'll still have the warning to people with PKU not to eat the stuff. So...if it's in there, you'd know what it was.

[peacebird]

41. agreed - what I objected to was Codeines nasty slapdown of the OP.

[SidDithers]

42. This isn't the first time the story about the "name change" has been posted...

and clarified.

Sid

[bobbolink]

46. ......

b-r-e-a-t-h-e

[SidDithers]

48. I actually thought I was calm and reasoned in my reply...

unlike the posters who believe Donald Rumsfeld is trying to sap their precious bodily fluids.

Sid

Edit: link to DU thread from February discussing this exact issue.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7650339

[bobbolink]

49. Ah, yes, calmly superior.

How do you think that adds to the well-being of DU?

[SidDithers]

50. I'm not particularly concerned about whether I add to the "well-being" of DU...

I was trying to explain why I thought Codeine may have been feeling a sense of frustration over this particular topic.

This "name change" is a non-issue. BFD if another brand name of aspartame is introduced. Nutrasweet, Equal or Aminosweet? It'll still say aspartame. It's not a nebulous conspiracy to hide the ingredient, it's another company trying to sell a product under their own brand name.

Coke or Pepsi? It's still cola.
Kleenex or Puffs? It's still facial tissue.
Advil or Motrin? It's still ibuprofen.

Sid

[bobbolink]

52. Thank you for being honest about your lack of caring, and your hardness.

It helps to clarify for others reading where you are coming from, and what response they are likely to get from you. We are now forewarned.

Thank you.

[TheWatcher]

55. Well, bobo, at least he's admitting his uselessness.

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I'd call that progress and a step in the right direction. :)

Now, if he'll learn the gift of silence, we'll be getting somewhere. :rofl:

[bobbolink]

68. .

:applause:

:yourock:

[arikara]

75. I see "ignored" is stirring the pot again

:eyes:

There is a simple way to achieve the gift of silence...

[SidDithers]

65. You're welcome...

sorry I'm not all puppies and daisies, like you.

Sid

[TheWatcher]

70. No problem, Sid.

Always willing help out when it comes to painting you in the proper light. :hi:

[UTUSN]

8. & should be named: AsPer-RUMSFELD. n/t

[wildbilln864]

11. HA! Thanks. good one. nt

[Lex]

12. And Kentucky Fried Chicken is now KFC.

It's still fried chicken. Brand names change.

[virgogal]

15. And Blackwater is now Xe--------go figure.

[omega minimo]

17. Not the same thing. What they call "chicken" has changed, too.

[Lex]

19. Wrong. That was debunked 10+ years ago.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/kfc.asp

[omega minimo]

20. What was debunked? Factory farming? Wrong.

[Lex]

22. LOL.

Nice try for a save.

[omega minimo]

24. That's what I'm talking about.

It ain't "chicken." Even you can't argue it's what used to be called chicken.

[jmowreader]

30. I found out the REAL reason KFC uses that name now.

It's not because they're trying to downplay the word fried, or because the animals they serve don't meet the legal definition of chickens...it's because the Commonwealth of Kentucky, in its infinite wisdom, decided to make money by trademarking the name of the state and charging anyone who used it in their brand name a royalty. In response, Kentucky Fried Chicken became KFC and the Kentucky Derby was rebranded the Run for the Roses. Check Snopes, it's on there.

[Lex]

31. Link?

Nothing on snopes. I seriously doubt Kentucky can trademark the name Kentucky.

[jmowreader]

32. They actually tried it in 1990

http://www.snopes.com/lost/kfc.asp

[CBGLuthier]

61. Uhhm, that is the made up bullshit section of snopes

Or do you think Mr.Ed really was a a zebra.

http://www.snopes.com/lost/mistered.asp

Or that there is a silent version of the film "Poseidon Adventure?"

http://www.snopes.com/lost/poseidon.asp

This is where snopes has a little fun with its readers.

http://www.snopes.com/lost/lost.asp#kfc

[TorchTheWitch]

13. this is nothing but a NAME brand change

The chemical name of "aspertame" is the same and will still be listed in the ingredients as it is required to be. Aspertame products have always used different BRAND names... Equal, NutraSweet, etc. It's all still aspertame.

And this same discussion took place here already months ago.

[omega minimo]

18. to fool people

[Codeine]

25. Not to fool anybody.

It's a new brand, not a change. If I start selling a new brand of coffee it's not to fool people into thinking they aren't buying coffee, right.

Use your head.

[omega minimo]

34. Use your manners

I do "use my head" which is why I don't ingest that poison.

[Codeine]

40. I don't either. It's nasty and tastes like shit.

That said, this new brand name is not an issue. It's still gonna be labeled as aspartame.

[SidDithers]

43. only people who can't read a label...nt

Sid

[safeinOhio]

23. Small amount of aspertame can

be listed in the ingredients as "other sugars". Avoid anything that says "and other sugars".

[Codeine]

28. Just look for

"Phenylketonurics: Contains Phenylalanine" on the label. That's required by the FDA if the product has aspartame in it.

[omega minimo]

36. so they change the brand name and people get fooled

[omega minimo]

35. yes that would fool people

they are required to place a warning for aspertame, right?

[Codeine]

38. IT'S STILL CALLED ASPARTAME!

Aspartame is the generic name for the substance, AminoSweet is a brand of that substance.


Think of it as cola; the drink is cola, but it is sold as Coca Cola, Pepsi, RC, etc. Is that to fool people?

And of course they have to put the warning -- it's fucking aspartame! :banghead:

[DainBramaged]

14. Sugar

Works for me. No arguments.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

16. Yep. Or when I need it...

[shanti]

74. :(

doesn't work for me and a lot of diabetic others too.

[Obamanaut]

21. Several months old piece of "news", dated Nov 2009

from the link in OP


"News Published on 17 Nov, 2009"

[Name removed]

27. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[mkultra]

33. Aspartame

[HughMoran]

44. News Published on 17 Nov, 2009

Been posted here several times, though it appears many didn't see this previously.

[conscious evolution]

76. I didn't see it.

[SidDithers]

45. Aspartame is still aspartame...

Aminosweet is a brand name, like Nutrasweet or Equal.

ETA: link to February DU thread discussing this exact issue.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7650339

Sid

[bobbolink]

47. thank you so much for this! This stuff is deadly to me!

Noted and recommended! :yourock:

[grahamhgreen]

51. AminoSweet byproducts include methanol (wood alchohol) which causes degenerative diseases.

http://www.wnho.net/formaldehyde_methanol_aspartame.htm

FDA Docket 02P-0317 Recall Aspartame as a Neurotoxic Drug

Dec 9 2002

The work of Jack D. Thrasher, PhD, provides an adequate scientific model and specific biochemical assays for the chronic symptoms of long-term, low-level exposure to formaldehyde, which is well reported in the scientific literature to inevitably be in intimate association with aspartame-methanol-formaldehyde-formic acid metabolism in monkeys.

Confirming evidence and a general theory are given by Pall (2002):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/909
Testable theory of MCS type diseases, vicious cycle of nitric oxide & peroxynitrite: MSG: Formaldehyde-methanol-aspartame: Martin L. Pall: Murray: 12.9.2

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/872
Immune system reactions due to formaldehyde from the 11% methanol in aspartame: Thrasher: Tephly: Monte: Murray 9.27.2

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/867
Murray: Thrasher:
Simple tests for immune system reactions due to formaldehyde from the 11% methanol in aspartame: Tholen 9.17.2

http://www.drthrasher.org/formaldehyde_1990.html

[jmowreader]

53. This guy's numbers are deliberately distorted to "ptove a point"

Who drinks two liters of soda at a sitting?

Let's play with this a little more.

The most popular size of convenience store soda is 44 ounces. Most of the people who drink a pop this large fill the cup with ice before putting the drink in it, so you might be looking at 24 ounces of icy goodness in there, or 720ml of soda in the cup. A little math says there are 0.56 mg of aspartame in a milliliter of diet soft drink, so you'll have 403 mg of aspartame in one drink, which is going to take you a few hours to consume. I can buy one of those sodas in Knoxville, TN, and drive to Oak Grove, KY, without finishing it--and that's a four-hour drive in the truck I had.

We are therefore looking at 100mg of aspartame per hour, which metabolizes to about 10mg of methanol--which metabolizes down to its various reaction products almost immediately.

It sounds really scary to go "if you drink two liters of diet pop at one sitting you're going to have all this methanol in you," but who does that?

[TorchTheWitch]

56. if aspertame was only in "diet" soda you might have a point

But it's also in pretty much all "diet" food and drink products.

[GoCubsGo]

72. Actually, it isn't.

Most diet foods, and several of the drink products have switched over to Splenda, which is not aspartame.

[jmowreader]

73. There's a reason for that, too

Aspartame-sweetened products aren't really shelf-stable. You have to encapsulate the aspartame in something else to keep it from splitting into its constituents with heat or pH of the product. While aspartame itself is sweet, neither aspartic acid nor phenylalanine are--which creates a problem for the manufacturer.

Sucralose? You throw the shit in the product and it sits there for a long time.

[grahamhgreen]

57. MSDS - "PERMISSIBLE EXPOSURE LIMIT (PEL): 260 MG/M3"

Try an alternative, perhaps...

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/alcohol/alcohol_data_sheet.shtml

[jmowreader]

59. PEL of methanol is for airborne exposure

260 milligrams per cubic meter of air.

For consumption the LD50 numbers are slightly more applicable, but that's the dose that will kill you, not the numbers that will make you sick.

[grahamhgreen]

67. Oops - thanks!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

54. This claim was posted and debunked months ago.

Old woo is old.

[Lorien]

58. if you want healthy alternatives to sugar try Stevia or agave nectar

stevia has almost no calories and agave is low glycemic and low calorie. Both are completely natural and safer for diabetics and others who must limit sweets than other sweeteners on the market.

[Statistical]

62. Not to get off topic but anyone have any opinions on Truvia?

I like it (and I hate all other artificial sweeteners).

Instead of high fructose coffee sweeter I have switched to 2 packets of Truvia and dash of half & half.
I am hoping it is better than other artificial junk.


Aminosweet by any other name is still foul tasting toxic trash.

[GoCubsGo]

71. Yuk!

I found it bitter and more artificial-tasting than any of the artificial sweeteners.

[Overseas]

64. K&R . //nt

[amborin]

69. thanks for posting