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Better Believe It
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:30 PM Original message |
The American empire is over. Our descent into a totalitarian capitalism in going to be horrifying |
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kgnu_fan
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. It did happened in Germany -- bringing in Nazi era |
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glinda
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. You are right about the whole layout of this. That is why Republicans are doing nothing to stop hate |
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cali
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Wed Apr-07-10 03:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
60. What do you think, specifically, are the similarities between the Weimar |
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
108. You know, Cali, I respect you, but now you see, look at how many people are saying the same thing? |
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. no, I really don't ignore the ugliness of today's political process |
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
95. IN A RELATED STORY fangs pulled from teabaggers... only 2 teeth left, dog has no real bite |
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. I hit "rec." and it stays at zero. |
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Amen n/t |
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paulsby
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. ah, more chicken little'ism |
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Better Believe It
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. You're dead wrong. Are you blind to what is now happening in our nation? |
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paulsby
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. no, i'm not |
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Better Believe It
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. So you don't think this is different and is a real economic crisis. I'd like to know why. |
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paulsby
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. EVERY recession/depression is "different" |
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Better Believe It
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. So when was the last economic crisis before the current "Great Recession"? |
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paulsby
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Tue Apr-06-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. depends on how you define "crisis" |
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JDPriestly
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. You know when I knew for sure that the market would crash in |
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paulsby
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Tue Apr-06-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. that's actually a very intelligent way to look at it. |
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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BonnieJW
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
71. What I find different |
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JDPriestly
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. And some of those chicken littles are very pleased with themselves |
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Swede
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Wed Apr-07-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #34 |
90. You should be buying,when everone else is selling. |
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rhett o rick
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #90 |
119. you are talking about buying and selling when many people around me cant |
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laughingliberal
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Wed Apr-07-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. +1 nt |
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JDPriestly
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Thu Apr-08-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #119 |
146. Good point. Lot's of us never had anything to buy or sell but got |
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Thu Apr-08-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #146 |
152. The stock market is the biggest con game ever. |
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JDPriestly
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Thu Apr-08-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #152 |
157. Agreed. 100%. The stock market is just a big gamble. |
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rhett o rick
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Thu Apr-08-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. Yes, where the house manipulates the game. nm |
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Better Believe It
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Fri Apr-09-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #90 |
159. Got any good bets working people can place at the Wall Street casino? |
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patrick t. cakes
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
41. the op wasnt about the "death of capitalism" |
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Fire1
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #41 |
82. Bingo!! n/t |
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girl gone mad
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Tue Apr-06-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Do yourself a favor, put this one on ignore. |
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BrklynLiberal
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. LOL. Whoever that is is ALREADY on my ignore list!!!! |
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Occulus
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:00 AM Response to Reply #36 |
53. I had to log out to make sure it was who I thought it was. |
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glitch
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #53 |
92. handy tip - printer friendly view shows the ignored nt |
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
109. yup. |
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cali
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Wed Apr-07-10 04:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
61. bullshit. a heaping pile of hysteria |
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JTFrog
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Wed Apr-07-10 07:13 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. +1 |
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Wed Apr-07-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. because the subtext is that Obama and the Ds offer nothing but the garbage from the plates |
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cali
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. no, because it's hysterical end-timer crap |
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femrap
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
102. We are just one drought |
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kenfrequed
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #75 |
118. There you go again |
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laughingliberal
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Wed Apr-07-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #75 |
126. I think by the time it's all said and done many of us will wish it had been the end |
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Better Believe It
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #61 |
73. HUAC and the red-baiting hysteria of McCarthyism rose during the early days of the post-World War II |
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Wed Apr-07-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #61 |
86. i agree- although he touches on some reality, his negative hyperbole is way over the top |
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Better Believe It
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Wed Apr-07-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #86 |
96. Suggesting we had fascism for 8 years and than ended it with an election in 2008 is pure fantasy. |
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BREMPRO
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
120. of course it is- you didn't read my post clearly- i mentioned "roots with Reagan admin" |
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Better Believe It
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #120 |
134. "corporate influece- at least the dems try to fight it publically and privately." Which Dems are? |
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Wed Apr-07-10 07:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
66. You are 100 % right. But the reason some people can't see it |
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:14 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. So of course you do understand that 1946 might have been |
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. "Pat Boone?" Right. "...halcyon days?" Right..... "Can diagram |
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laughingliberal
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Wed Apr-07-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #66 |
127. Your post brings up an excellent point |
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #127 |
135. That's the point I was trying to make. Back in the old days, despite |
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Hestia
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
84. This is not new - in the 1930s, FDR was elected to assauge the populous |
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
94. How can it be 'new' if it's the "first fascist movement in the US *since the Great Depression*? |
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Dogtown
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. ad hominem? |
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Deep13
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Um, usually their warnings go unheeded as "chicken little'isms"... |
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Odin2005
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Tue Apr-06-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Ah, more head-in-the-sand-ism |
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JDPriestly
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. I hope you are joking. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:35 AM Response to Reply #32 |
79. Simply excellent.... |
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BREMPRO
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Wed Apr-07-10 09:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
89. brilliant insights- bravo! it is a moral crisis- selfishness is endemic |
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Better Believe It
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Wed Apr-07-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
98. Good points, however, you somehow managed to leave out of your history .... |
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femrap
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
103. Don't forget |
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Deleted message |
L0oniX
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Tue Apr-06-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Welcome to my ignore dungeon. |
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kenfrequed
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
107. right... |
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
112. Says the man that made his career making everything worse. |
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rhett o rick
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Thu Apr-08-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
153. Libertarians shouldnt even be allowed in DU unless they promise to at least |
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. The 'empire' is going strong, and will continue. American Dream R Dead |
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Wed Apr-07-10 09:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
88. Is that the american dream of the rich white racists ruling over the poor? |
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Echo In Light
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Mon Apr-12-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #88 |
164. +1 |
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laughingliberal
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. Democrats have failed to marshal the populist angst to their benefit |
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Better Believe It
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. And probably won't because they don't want Republicans to attack them for promoting "class war" |
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. because Democrats are just as culpable as Republicans in bringing this disaster about. |
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. ...... |
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dkofos
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. Is Totalitarian Capitalism the new term for Fascist?? |
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Better Believe It
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Since the term "fascist" is frequently mis-used to describe anything right-wing you might be right. |
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Deep13
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Guess so since they are the same thing. nt |
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
12. Not having to really prove any of the conclusions in that first paragraph |
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ProSense
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. "The American empire is over." OK |
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Tue Apr-06-10 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
22. Article is a month old. Why is it being posted now? |
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I didn't know there was a statue of limitations regarding publication dates for links in this site |
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Tue Apr-06-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. I just read it and didn't see it posted earlier. Was it posted before on DU? |
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cali
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Wed Apr-07-10 04:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
62. 4 other times that I know of. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. And you had to read it again? |
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fascisthunter
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Wed Apr-07-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
99. so what? |
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
24. blah blah blah, people have been pushing this crap forever |
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
27. this column is WAY too optimistic |
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troubledamerican
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Here's one. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
97. The Balkanization of the US is inevitable. |
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troubledamerican
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. Chile 1973 is more likely. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I see the whole thing splitting into rival neo-feudal such states though. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #106 |
122. ...each with nuclear weapons & state-of-the-art military hardware? |
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Thu Apr-08-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #122 |
144. some with more than others |
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Odin2005
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Tue Apr-06-10 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
29. We are SOOO fucked. |
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. K&R |
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cali
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Wed Apr-07-10 04:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
63. uh, no sorry. that is flawed logic of the first order. |
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dionysus
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
80. you might be confused. it's called ridiculing hedges hysterical BS... |
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Echo In Light
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Sun Apr-11-10 08:14 AM Response to Reply #80 |
163. Says you |
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BrklynLiberal
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
37. They Thought They were Free.... |
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Tue Apr-06-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. I have that book, have read it, along with recounts |
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truedelphi
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Wed Apr-07-10 03:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. One of the smartest people I ever knew turned me on to that book |
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BrklynLiberal
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
130. Mayer was a fascinating man in many, many ways... |
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truedelphi
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Thu Apr-08-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #130 |
151. I did not know of his Chicago background. |
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Echo In Light
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
81. Thanks for sourcing that! |
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glinda
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. K&R n/t |
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Skittles
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Tue Apr-06-10 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
46. "Liberal apologists" |
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Tue Apr-06-10 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
47. Welp, Oprah is starting a TV network. |
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Angry Dragon
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
48. K&R |
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
49. what, me worry? |
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SpankMe
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
50. Great piece. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 07:49 AM Response to Reply #50 |
67. I put it at 70%. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
51. I, too, am extremely disappointed, but mostly in the liberal leadership, like the Progressive Caucus |
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truedelphi
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Wed Apr-07-10 03:10 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Yes I too am disappointed in the way they allowed the DLC |
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Better Believe It
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:41 AM Response to Reply #58 |
83. This Democratic congressman didn't fold. |
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truedelphi
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Wed Apr-07-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
124. Good to know. Let me know when he runs for office - |
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
52. move out! |
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:36 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. That's very articulate. |
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Hestia
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Wed Apr-07-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #52 |
87. Great article |
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cali
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
55. Not this piece of shit again. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 03:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. +1, It is rather naive |
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Wed Apr-07-10 07:26 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Yeah it's kind of just a writers sort of narcicism (sp?) thinking they're |
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
132. How's your war going, cali? |
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Echo In Light
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Sat Apr-10-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #132 |
161. +1 |
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cali
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Sat Apr-10-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #132 |
162. Why call it my war, genius if you know I"m staunchly against both of them? |
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my2sense
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
56. K&R |
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newtothegame
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
70. Well you should get your recs. nt |
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Echo In Light
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
74. k/r - this angers the Right people for accurate reasons |
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dionysus
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
76. more fail porn, eh BBI? |
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
77. The author is doing it wrong.... |
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
117. The Republicans are where they want to be |
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
85. I initially thought this was going to be another gloom-and-doom screed |
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Wed Apr-07-10 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
91. Oh no it's all OVAR!!!! |
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
93. Ask any weatherman how accurate forecasts usually are. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
100. It will be swift and brutal if we go this direction |
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fascisthunter
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Wed Apr-07-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
101. notice how many recs this gets |
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h9socialist
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
104. Isn't "CAPITALIST TOTALITARIANISM" here already? |
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Better Believe It
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. We don't live under a political or fascist dictatorship yet. If we did, you wouldn't be posting. |
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h9socialist
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Have you ever read "1984"???? |
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truedelphi
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Thu Apr-08-10 01:42 AM Response to Reply #114 |
140. I am reminded of "1984" almost every day I participate in the "outer reality" |
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Thu Apr-08-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. You are hereby entitled to . . . |
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Thu Apr-08-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #142 |
149. Oh thank you! Serve it up soon please |
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Thu Apr-08-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #140 |
154. I liked your post until you started up with the chemtrail insanity. |
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Thu Apr-08-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. Okay Odin2005 - I am TOTALLY open to anyone who can explain this |
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Sat Apr-10-10 06:04 AM Response to Reply #140 |
160. . |
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Besides, mine isn't the biggest overdramatization we've heard lately! |
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
110. Spot on |
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
111. Predictions of the future |
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Wed Apr-07-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #111 |
128. The specifics.. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. I have to agree |
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
121. Quite Feasible |
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Wed Apr-07-10 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
123. Bump |
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
131. I gotta take issue with one thing... |
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Thu Apr-08-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #131 |
145. +1 |
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Thu Apr-08-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #131 |
150. You should re-post this. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
133. Quasimodo predicted this ! |
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
136. Isn't there an End Of Days website or something that people like you would be happier at? |
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Just waiting around for the Democrats to fight the Republicans. |
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Thu Apr-08-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #137 |
143. Yes- we all were/are waiting for Democrats to stand for something on their left platform |
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Thu Apr-08-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #137 |
147. +1000 (don't hold your breath, though) |
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Thu Apr-08-10 05:38 AM Response to Reply #136 |
141. I don't think anyone is begging for it |
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
138. Really? I think it will be fun. |
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Wed Apr-07-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
139. Hey...didn't I see you ranting wildly on public access cable the other night? |
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Thu Apr-08-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #139 |
148. Who do you mean? The author or me? |
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Thu Apr-08-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #148 |
155. Goddamn liberals |
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