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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:38 AM Original message |
'Priests Commit No More Abuse Than Other Males' - Newsweek.com |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. it's the cover-up |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. ...and the smarmy sanctimony |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. Even if true, does the average male have the trust level of a priest, |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Fathers, uncles, ministers of other religions, big brothers. Hell yeah' |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Exactly right. Except I do think it is clear why society is mad at this Pope. nt |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. THey chose him because he was old, not because he was good. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. When a priest talks with a child he is speaking for "god" . . . !!!! |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. Uh, |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. You're right. But that's not the point of the article. nt |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. What do you think |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Most organized religions are criminal organizations...money, sex and |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Right . . . imagine if this said, "priests don't steal anymore than anyone else" . . .!!! |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. I am sorry, but in most other organizations they do NOT cover it up like the Church has been doing |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I have no doubt that they did the biggest covering up, but you can't say that all others report it. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. I do not believe other organizations in the western world go to the lengths that the |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
55. It's not even the cover-up,... |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. The reason the Catholic priests made such a big story |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
7. The title is very misleading...says they don't commit more, then in the body |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Good catch . . . |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
11. Those "Other males" are in prison |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Not all of them. Not a fraction of them. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. The Vatican KNOWS who the sexual abusing priests are . . . |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
42. Yes, I should have qualified that |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. Absolutely . . . when caught, child abusers go to prison -- not to Rome! |
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Sanity Claws (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
13. Good reason why the Church should allow women to be priests |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I do believe they should. And let priests have relationships. |
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Sanity Claws (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I agree |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Whatever the reason, it would help greatly if they did away with this. nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. Amen. They should just let married people, men and women |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. It's good reason why our spiritual leaders should probably be women . .. |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
16. Wha?! One in 10 to one in FIVE males are pedophiles? |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Given the number of children each pedophile typically abuses.... |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Good pt. I just think they misread "# of sexually abus_ed_" as # of sexual abusers |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Those numbers apply to general sex abuse by males. |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I can believe the 1 in 10 commit general sexual abuse. . . that's plausible |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Hetereosexual Males are 100X more likely to sexually abuse children . . . |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Thank you. Very enlightening. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
19. I wonder about the comparative percentages |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
60. Look to Ireland for an answer to that. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
22. Ignoring the fact that priests are NOT LIKE any other males - they are |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
25. It's like reading a study |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
27. "almost all child sexual abuse is committed by men."--- |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. and this is where rigid distinctions between het/gay break down |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #34 |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
41. Difference is the assumed and unquestioned POWER of Church |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
43. Deep pockets |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
45. There's a difference between individual pedophiles and institutionalized pedophilia |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. And it carries over as . . . |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. +1.... |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
46. One in ten or one in five males are pedophiles? |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
47. This makes me want to vomit. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Here's some more info on it . . . including from the rw "Family Research Council" . . .!! |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
51. could be attributed to just the massive business the RC church is... |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. What's the big hoopla about pederasts in the Church? It happens everywhere. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
57. celibacy is unnatural. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. That's actually one of the best reasons to let Priests have relationships. nt |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
59. That's not the fucking point |
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