TEA BAGGERS versus RONALD REAGAN

[AnArmyVeteran]

All the conservative tea baggers are up in arms because President Obama is trying to limit the number of nuclear weapons in the world. It doesn't matter to them that we have enough arms to annihilate the planet many times over. They don't want to reduce our nuclear weapons by even one. These conservatives say they fiscal conservatives, but they want to continue to pay to maintain weapons we will never use and will never need. But the tea bagging leaders like Palin get huge ovations from their mostly illiterate and ignorant audiences. They cheered on the Bush Administration's decision to leave the option open to bomb entire towns in Iraq or Afghanistan, presumably just to get one bad guy. It's madness, but during Bush's reign right wingers often filled up the internet with their desires to turn parts of the Middle East sand into glass using nuclear weapons. They didn't care about the consequences or the numbers of innocent people which would be killed.

Right wingers don't even have a clue that their god, Ronald Reagan, often spoke out against nuclear weapons and specifically Reagan wrote in his memoirs, "For the eight years I was president, I never let my dream of a nuclear-free world fade from my mind".

Reagan almost succeeded in getting an agreement with Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev to destroy all nuclear weapons within ten years. But tea bagging conservatives don't even know anything about Ronald Reagan. All they know are the sound bites they are fed by opportunistic manipulators in the conservative movement.

President Reagan also made the following anti-nukes speech in Changhai, China: "We live in a troubled world, and the United States and China, as two great nations, share a special responsibility to help reduce the risks of war. We both agree that there can be only one sane policy to preserve our precious civilization in this modern age: A nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. And no matter how great the obstacles may seem, we must never stop our efforts to reduce the weapons of war. We must never stop at all until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished from the face of this Earth."

Is there even one tea bagger who isn't ignorant? They seem to constantly worship Reagan as their conservative god, but seem to know nothing about any of the things Reagan did.

[RandomThoughts]

1. yup.

But remember everything we hear about what tea baggers are, also comes through that same filter.

All they know are the sound bites they are fed by opportunistic manipulators in the conservative movement.


It is possible the teabaggers started as a 'no bank bailout' mainstreet not wallstreet concept, then corporate groups moved in to derail that message.

Also much of Democratic policy comes through some of those filters also.




Although the libertarian movement wants to get rid of government, when there has to be some rules, what they don't think about is that removing government by the people, makes things worse. I think they are upset because government is not for the people in many areas. And they go after government not the entities that are pushing government that way.

I think people need to put people back in government, and go after the forces trying to make it just a wing of corporate establishment.

Less government became more government, with the less part being taking care of the people, and the more part being hand outs to those that could afford lobbiest and big donations.


Might as well play a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Vp1EGCYlQ

Makin' a living the old hard way
Takin' and giving by day by day
I dig snow and rain and bright sunshine
Draggin' the line (draggin' the line)

My dog Sam eats purple flowers
We ain't got much but what we got's ours
We dig snow and rain and bright sunshine
Draggin' the line (draggin' the line)
Draggin' the line (draggin' the line)

I feel fine I'm talkin' bout peace of mind
I'm gonna take my time I'm gettin' the good sign
Draggin' the line (draggin' the line)
Draggin' the line (draggin' the line)

Loving the free and feelin' spirit
Of huggin' a tree when you get near it
Diggin' the snow and rain and bright sunshine
Draggin' the line (draggin' the line)

I feel fine I'm talkin' bout peace of mind
I'm gonna take my time I'm gettin' the good sign
Draggin' the line (draggin' the line)
Draggin' the line (draggin' the line)
Draggin' the line (draggin' the line).....

[AnArmyVeteran]

2. RandomThoughts, very true, but I have tea baggers in my family...

I have tea baggers in my family and they agree with everything they hear on Fox News and right wing radio. They also never look at other sources for their information. They believe Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh are 'journalists'.

Regardless of any 'filters', when you see a conference full of tea baggers cheering at violence-enticing language (like threatening to poison Pelosi or shoot a member of congress), laughing at racist statements or mindlessly applauding blatant lies and distortions it doesn't look like they are a very balanced, or even sane, group of people.

I agree with you though. Everything we see and hear must be verified for its accuracy...

Have a great weekend.

[RandomThoughts]

4. And you are correct, I too have spoken to tea baggers.

And you do make a good point, thanks for pointing that out.

I do agree there is a bad streak in the tea baggers, but I think that is stoked by the forces you mentioned. They want energy, even if it comes from the worser motives like the ones you mention.

Yoda quote - “Remember, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Luke... Luke... do not... do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor or suffer your father's fate you will. Luke, when gone am I... the last of the Jedi will you be. Luke, the Force runs strong in your family. Pass on what you have learned
...

[AnArmyVeteran]

6. Is that the GREAT Burgess Meredith in your post? He was a great character actor. Fantastic!

[AnArmyVeteran]

3. When I think of a purely libertarian country, I think of Somalia...

In Somalia there is no truly functioning government and it seems everyone is carrying around an automatic assault rifle. And piracy seems to be the biggest business and leads all over revenue in their gross national product. Ahhh, libertarianism... I had a libertarian friend who was a big Green Bay Packers fan, but driving on government roads never stopped him from going to games, or anywhere else. Another friend wrote an excellent speech about how libertarianism is a cult. It was brilliant and I wish I had a copy to share here. He left my libertarian friend speechless after he was 'outed'.

[RandomThoughts]

5. Anarchy and chaos, the dark side are they. And Libertarian in its pure form is anarchy

In a bit of a yoda mood.

So regarding the astroturfing.
"Blind we are, if creation of this clone army we could not see."



But regarding other things.

“Good relations with the Wookiees, I have.”

“May the Force be with you.”

[tabasco]

7. Most of the tea cult want to bring on armageddon.

They will be severely disappointed when they are vaporized with the rest of us and not whisked away to rapture land.

[AnArmyVeteran]

9. During the Bush years right wing churches actually prayed for Armageddon...

It seemed those same Christian extremists wanted Bush to start a major, world wide war which would bring an end to the world. I heard so many stories of right wingers talking about wanting the 'end times' to come. The more fundamentalist people are the more they tend to want everything to end so they can be raptured up. I just hope I go in the opposite direction they are going. I would consider to be complete hell if I had to spend an eternity with Pat Roberton, GW Bush, Sarah Palin and other manipulators of others. But I have a strong feeling when people are being beamed up off the planet, they will all be left with all their guns so they can heaven on earth shooting each other. That sounds like a paradise to them.

[madmax]

8. Thanks for calling the what they are

Teabaggers! I'm not switching to this new Tea Party tile bullshit. They started calling themselves Teabaggers and that's, that. ;)

[AnArmyVeteran]

10. I borrowed a picture from a fellow DUer and changed it up, but here it is for your amusement...

Spread it around. The other DUer thought it would make a good logo. Maybe we should make flags of it and walk among their ranks. But we'd better wear bullet proof vests if we did that. Or maybe wear one of those bomb protecting suits seen in the movie the Hurt Locker.

Even the guy's face doing the 'tea bagging' is red! It goes well with his red neck...

[madmax]

11. ROFL!! Priceless

Yes, signs!! Sending it to everyone in my address book.

And btw, Thanks for your service Soldier. :hug:

:patriot:

[speedcat]

12. lol

love that pic! thanks

[AnArmyVeteran]

14. Thanks Speedcat, I went to the link and joined. Thank you...

[AnArmyVeteran]

16. I hope I see plenty of these signs at the next tea bagger protest!

[mrfocus]

13. Cognitive Dissonance Avoidance - a tea baggers highest priority

Reagan - good
Obama - bad
Reagan and Obama wanting the same thing -

[John Q. Citizen]

15. I'm not so sure Reagan wrote this himself;

"For the eight years I was president, I never let my dream of a nuclear-free world fade from my mind".

His Alzheimer's had already let a whole of of things fade from his mind before he was out of office.

However, I do agree with your premise that keeping around Nukes is costly and useless and that anybody who isn't a complete idiot would welcome the reduction of the number that we and the Russians stockpile.

[AnArmyVeteran]

17. I doubt if Reagan wrote much of anything during or after his presidency.

While conservatives attack President Obama for using a teleprompter they dismiss the fact that Reagan almost couldn't speak or remember things without using 3 x 5" cards he carried around with him everywhere. Obama's intelligence is much greater than Reagan's and Obama has done more good things in his short time as president than Reagan did in eight years. I'd say Reagan's IQ was average at best.

And even though he probably didn't write the line you mentioned he did say it aloud and was recorded, but conservative extremists will never hear it or read it. They seem to be addicted to ignorance.