Police: NJ teen told blacks to leave Whole Foods

[proud2BlibKansan]

Police in northern New Jersey say a 14-year-old girl grabbed a supermarket microphone and announced, "All blacks leave the store."

The case is nearly identical to what happened on two occasions at a southern New Jersey Walmart.

Edgewater police say the new case is being investigated as a possible "copycat" situation. They say they were called after the girl made the announcement over the Whole Foods Market's public-address system Saturday afternoon.

The girl, whose name was not released because of her age, is charged with bias intimidation and harassment.

In the Walmart case, a 16-year-old boy faces the same charges after police said he twice ordered all blacks to leave the store.

http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/04/13/1017825/police-nj-teen-told-blacks-to.html

[CBGLuthier]

1. One of these "fine" young white kids

is going to get their ass kicked for this shit. I hope they don't suffer any permanent damage when it happens.

[Zywiec]

9. Who would be kicking the ass of a 14 year old girl? n/t

[elleng]

11. I would, if I could.

I hope my daughter, and her friends or her friends friends, would. (They're in Jersey.)

[Rebubula]

14. SO....

...you support beating up a 14 year old girl for being an asshole?

Good to know....

[Zywiec]

16. Wow, there are all kinds on DU

Who knew progressives supported beating up a 14 year old girl.

:crazy:

[Raineyb]

30. I for one wouldn't waste any tears over some fucking bigot.

Why are you?

[elleng]

37. Thats KIND of my point, but not exactly.

Actually, I'd like the people in the store to recognize that We the People agree that such behavior is not acceptable. No tears, but a BIG LESSON if everyone in the store BOOOOOOed the 'kids,' or somesuch.

[Marr]

78. Because she's a kid.

If we were talking about a grown person, I'd have a different opinion.

[snooper2]

48. not really a beating per say...

maybe just lift her up and shake her real hard :P

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[WorseBeforeBetter]

74. It's rather silly to think that everyone on DU is progressive...

in spite of that below. And who knows what really motivates some members.

[WI_DEM]

52. I prefer to let the courts deal with her

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[AmandaRuth]

68. i have to say

that my teenage daughter might get riled up enough over stuff like this to get into a physical alteration. She is pretty liberal, and definitely not the sit back and take it type.

I would not encourage it if anyone is wondering.

"use you words, Olivia, words!" :)

[elleng]

72. I don't encourage physical altercation, either

(contrary to some impressions around here), but there are many more than one way to skin this cat, as we all should know!

[Hawkeye-X]

40. I'd hire Skittles.

[elleng]

19. I agree, no permanent damage.

Who would think that this so-called progressive crowd here

First, would not understand a dramatization without 'sarcasm' smilie, and

Second, would not understand the need for this SOCIETY TO SAY NO, to these 'fine white kids,' and reflect that need by making a clear statement to that effect, IN PUBLIC?

CBGL, I'm not speaking directly to you, but to posters who 'flamed' me for suggesting I would have wanted to kick their asses for this shit, and were surprised that such would be said here. (No permanent damage, of course.)

[burning rain]

51. You are surely smart enough to "get it."

A mother appearing to fantasize about violence against minor children elicits all sorts of thoughts, none of them pleasant.

[elleng]

62. I'm smart enough to know

that NO ONE HERE 'fantasizes about violence against minor children.'

'By saying nothing and avoiding confrontation you let these people think that what they said is fine. And they continue knowing that while they may have to act respectable in public they don't have to actually change their attitudes in private.'

{Thanks due to Raineyb for this.}

[burning rain]

63. Yeah, I know.

Ha, ha, it was just a joke/sarcasm/whatever, I can say anything I want and wriggle out of it. I know the drill.

It doesn't help your position to quote Raineyb, who also writes: "I for one wouldn't waste any tears over some fucking bigot." Now maybe it's fine by you and Raineyb if revenge violence comes to this minor child who did something very foul, in addition to the just but humane chastisement she stands to endure under the legal system; but violence in society is not something you can confine to people you don't like. If you favor brutalizing people you don't like, that is your choice, but know that you and your children will have to walk the same streets as them after they are hardened and brutalized. Same for all the characters here who chortle over prison rape.

[Raineyb]

66. Excuse you? If you want to know what Raineyb means, you might want to ask

her. That would be me.

I'll skip the more likely than not erroneous assumption that she will be at all chastised for what she did. More likely than not she'll end up with some pathetic community service bullshit which won't teach her a damn thing. (Something an ass kicking probably would if it were something I were to endorse.) That backwards B bitch didn't get anything stronger than community service for her bit of foolishness. There doesn't seem to be all that much stomach for actually punishing these racist fuckwits but I digress.

I don't recall saying that I condone or endorse violence falling upon this rather foul excuse for a spawn. However, considering the multitude of things going on in the world and personally I damn sure am not inclined to waste any time contemplating it in any detail. Why the hell should I?

Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of people thinking that this kind of foolishness is no big deal. It is a big deal. At least for those of us who don't need reminders that we are considered second class citizens in the country we were born in.

[provis99]

75. well DU is filling up with DLC Debbie Downer types.

Makes me sick to my stomach, but what can you do?

[BoneDaddy]

71. Get over yourself, she was stupid

but I see stupid shit from kids from all backgrounds, every day.

[Orrex]

2. I suspect that she'll be made a keynote speaker at the next TeaBagger riot. I mean rally.

[Sanity Claws]

3. Edgewater?

That's on the Hudson, directly across from Manhattan. From what I've seen of it, it is relatively affluent.

I am amazed at this sort of thing, particularly in this part of the country.

[elleng]

12. dupe

[elleng]

13. 'This part of the country' contains a lot of people, Santa!

[tXr]

36. 'This part of the country '= code for 'I can't believe this didn't happen in De Souff!!1!'

[elleng]

39. I don't write in 'code,'

I KNOW it happens in the northeast.and the midwest, and the 'heartland,' and the west. I also know that IT STILL HAPPENS in De Souff. Thats the way it is.

[Javaman]

21. Not me. I will just say that I have "relatives" that live in that area...

they are EXTREMELY right wing and have show at times their true racist nature.

their neighborhood creeps me out. very scared white people, peeking out their windows afraid of anything and everything different from them.

They are producing little brown shirts by the dozen daily in their private schools.

[Raineyb]

29. Why? There are plenty of "fine upstanding citizens" who are racist as hell.

Especially when they think the people around them will put up with it.

Which is exactly why more white people need to speak up. All those times when you have some people who are loathe to say anything and confront someone who says something that's clearly racist in front of them. By saying nothing and avoiding confrontation you let these people think that what they said is fine. And they continue knowing that while they may have to act respectable in public they don't have to actually change their attitudes in private.

[elleng]

60. Yes Yes Yes, Raineyb.

'By saying nothing and avoiding confrontation you let these people think that what they said is fine. And they continue knowing that while they may have to act respectable in public they don't have to actually change their attitudes in private.'

You've described a major element of the 'social contract.' Civilization DEMANDS its members to TAKE A PUBLIC STAND!

[elleng]

61. dupe

[Odin2005]

4. Ugh, what an asshole!

[HughMoran]

5. What a stupid stunt

:wtf:

[slackmaster]

24. I see what you did there...

[HughMoran]

33. Que?

:wtf:

[petronius]

43. Cunning...

:)

[ecstatic]

53. your mind is in the gutter

and you're forcing everyone else's mind to be there too!

[ixion]

6. *sigh*

There is no shortage of stupid people in the world, unfortunately. :(

[Selatius]

7. Imagine someone like that becoming president of the US in about 30 to 40 years. Scary, huh?

Yeah, that could be the America we're going to end up with.

[KittyWampus]

8. maybe it's some kind of Teabagger Youth gang initiation.

[LynneSin]

15. Here they are at their last youth group meeting

[KittyWampus]

17. Like that, only different. These teens are no doubt better dressed.

[Ikonoklast]

31. Is that the future pope and the college of cardinals?

Where's the kiddie porn?

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. LOL!!

[Javaman]

23. Funny that you say that. The one thing I haven't heard yet is...

a tea bagging youth movement.

[handmade34]

10. I watched "Class Divided" again last night

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/divided/etc/view.html

it's time to be more pro-active

[SocialistLez]

18. Blacks shop at Whole Foods?

I kid, I kid.

I'm black and OCCASIONALLY shop there and my gf (who is also black) likes blowing her money and gas on trips there.

In any case, WTF is going on in Jersey?

[TorchTheWitch]

20. same crap that's always been going on in Jersey

There's a reason why they don't charge a toll to get in, but you have to pay double to get out!

[elleng]

25. THAT's good!

And yer FORBIDDEN TO PUMP YOUR OWN GAS!

[Dorian Gray]

41. Yet it's still cheaper than NYC

(Native New Jerseyite who now resides in Brooklyn. I admit, I sometimes drive to Jersey to fill up!)

[elleng]

44. I don't think it relates to price, but instituted a long time ago, right?

I haven't bought gas in the city. Bad in Brooklyn, eh? but we can't figure out the reason for variations in price, from place to place, can we?

Intended to insure jobs for service station employees, right?

FUNNY: Daughter went to college in Philly; many friends were from Jersey. They all asked Amy to pump their gas (in PA) because they DIDN'T KNOW HOW! LOVE that story!

[Dorian Gray]

64. Jersey is cheaper

because they have fewer taxes on gas there. (Considering how craptacular the financial situation of the state is at the moment, I expect them to increase soon.) Many a NYer will relish the chances to fill 'em up if they have to cross one of the tunnels into Jersey. My family all live there, so I make it down quite often.

[elleng]

65. 'Relish' and 'cross one of the tunnels' don't exactly go together, do they!

Thanks for the info!

I'm a new yawka (Been a long time!) and daughter living in Jersey.

[Dorian Gray]

70. LOL...

it depends on the reason for crossing, actually! :) (To go to Newark Airport for a trip is something I relish! Though to get gas in Jersey City? Yeah... not so much! LOL)

[NM_hemilover]

22. Nobody else thought THAT was funny ????

I got a laugh out of it , thanks. I loaded up a salad from the bar once, without realizing that they charge by weight, not content. I about yarked up a lung at the regester over my 14 dollar salad.

Some of the stuff is awesome, most over priced.

[elleng]

26. But its only 4.99 per pound!

[NM_hemilover]

34. One of the best salads I'll never have again.

Never read the sign, just grabbed the container and started piling on.

[elleng]

35. MUST HAVE BEEN GREAT!

And a HUGE container! (I do the same, that is, grab and go, but I don't think I'd like to compete with you!)

Something special about Whole Foods?

[elleng]

27. Its the U S of A, dontcha know?

And the ancestors of lots of the people there went there 'cause they could see it from the ship! (Not relevant, but I do like the image!)

[kwassa]

28. You mean Whole Paycheck?

as the store is commonly called ....

fortunately, we also have Trader Joes to shop at.

[Hawkeye-X]

42. I'm still waiting for Traders Joes to open up here.

TJ doesn't like one of the Colorado blue laws (can't remember which one) - but we repealed pretty much all of it.

Wonder what's left of the blue law we still have that TJ doesn't like.

Wife absolutely loves TJ, and wants to see one here. In the meantime, we do have two alternatives to Whole Paycheck - Sunflower Market and Sprouts - which are pretty nice.

Hawkeye-X

[Warren DeMontague]

77. Trader Joe's kicks ass on a select bunch of items.

Their produce & meat can be hit or miss (but has gotten better IMHO) but on a bunch of stuff, they're the best- and great prices too.

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[SocialistLez]

59. I try to shop at Kroger's

My GF works there and is part of the union.
They tend to have SOME of the same items as Whole Foods but it's cheaper.

[vaberella]

47. Why?! Their shit is way too expensive. n/t

[ecstatic]

54. lol

[tammywammy]

38. She must have been there on vacation n/t

[political_Dem]

45. These Young'ins are getting bold, aren't they?

I wonder what would have happened if she tried that in a traditionally Black neighborhood? Does she have enough guts for that?

Otherwise, they'll probably give this little hussy a slap on the wrists and put her in some thirty-minute racial sensitivity counseling. And then, she'll be back at it again. After all, she probably "doesn't see" what's wrong with what she did.

And her clueless parents will help her "not see" as well.

[vaberella]

46. It's times like this that I'm reminded how tough it is to be Black in America.

Me: Why God?! Why?! What did I do to be born Black that I am hated so...?!

Pat Robertson: And you're Haitian too...It's all that voodoo, you turned your backs on God. If you didn't, you'd be White and happy.

Me: Oh...But I'm Catholic.

:rofl: Black people have it hard man. And that's putting it mildly.

[political_Dem]

50. +1000

It's a crying shame. ;)

[Cha]

49. Poor little insecure thing

..has to try and make herself feel better about something..even if it's only because she thinks her skin color does it and not her intelligence.

Sad, really.

[geardaddy]

58. This just in. A photo was released.

Here are her friends.

[BlooInBloo]

67. Good thing it's not about race.

[crazyjoe]

69. 14 ? just a stupid kid.

[Bluebear]

73. It was good advice.

That store is outrageous.

[Mimosa]

76. It was a copycat prank

14 year olds often lack judgment and do dumb things. She may not be a genuine bigot. None of us know. She may regret this little escapade the rest of her life. She won't forget it.

But only a very mean ugly person would advocate violence against a kid.