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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:12 AM Original message |
Putting teeth in the fight against rape |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. This device (or an earlier version) has been around for at least a few years. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. Awesome. |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. A BIG K&R |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. Great. And with the adrenaline explosion to follow . . . |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. "Insane enough to rape"? |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. But doesn't that go a bit beyond garden-variety sociopathy? |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. So your solution |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. I think she is saying that if the device does not incapacitate the male.... |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
61. I don't know... |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
62. and she'd still be raped |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. college studies on males, 50-60% would commit rape if they could get away with it |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Do you have a link or citation to that study? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. i read a study |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Yes, I certainly understand that. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. IIRC the thing about that study is that the word "rape" was intentionally not used... |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. +1 to everything you just said. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. you are right and that was interesting. didnt use rape, but sheeeit |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I agree! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. There have been many studies... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. "· 42% of the victims told no one." |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. In another survey 90% said they never reported it. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. i know three women, four rapes, none reported. how do you put a number on unreported? |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. In a survey of male college students, 51% reported they might rape a woman if assured they would not |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #41 |
64. God, how awful. But thanks for providing a link to that study. nt |
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Riftaxe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
51. college studies on males, 50-60% would drink beer all day if they could get away with it |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. excellent dismissing move. you equate sexual violence to drinking beer? nt |
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Riftaxe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #52 |
66. I just think it is as likely as your statement (nt) |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. how many rape interviews have you done? |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. That is my impression |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. exactly |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Such crimes are committed very regularly |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Sorry, rape doesn't even require "garden-variety sociopathy", much less full-fledged sociopathy. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. A-fricking-men. nt |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. No, being capable of committing a horrible crime does not make a person insane. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. just like fighting back can enrage to extent of murder. i say, give women, and girls |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Hopefully it will also discourage more rape |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. not to mention the inevitable being caught in rape, contraption hooked on penis. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. In areas with high incidence of rape |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Hmmm.... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
10. k/r |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. my favorite part |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. i know.... |
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justanaverageguy (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
18. Having never had to live in fear of rape myself I feel just |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. I predict this causing the deaths of many women. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
25. If they're serial numbered and the victim has the number at home... |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. I'd like to think they'd need a hacksaw .......... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. They need prevention including a working justice system. |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Yeah, but so do we (need a working justice system). |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Yes. We have a "rape shield" law here... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. That is exactly what happened to my friend with cerebral palsy who was raped. |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. As far as I'm aware, they're not hooks so much as barbs. |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
27. All this will do is cause rapists to anally violate their victims, |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Nothing stopping the buyer from "doubling up", so to speak. n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
35. K&R |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
36. K&R |
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tango-tee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
38. K&R! Definitely! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
50. This does nothing until the woman is actually penetrated |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. +1 |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
54. "rape capital of the world" The World Cup should be ashamed. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. And a rapist as a president. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Really? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. He got off because of his political connections not too long before he was elected. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
57. Devil's advocate |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. good question. nt |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
60. I think this is a better solution: |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. A damn good close range weapon, but illegal in some states ... |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
63. How horrifying that we live in a world in which things like this are necessary. |
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