American Family Association proposes that all children born out of wedlock receive no gov services

[ck4829]

The rate at which bastard children were born in 1963, when Lyndon Johnson launched the war on poverty, was seven percent. Meanwhile, we continue to maintain actual marriage penalties in our tax code, including the newly hatched monstrosity of health care reform. So we subsidize illegitimacy and penalize marriage, and we wonder why things get worse rather than better.

And President Obama intends to zero out the one budget item devoted to strengthening marriage in low-income communities.

The place to begin? By reforming state and federal budgets so that we no longer subsidize immorality. It's time to communicate in policy and not just in words that in America, we expect you to save sex for marriage, to have children only within the marriage relationship, and that we will no longer force American taxpayers to fund the expenses of children they did not conceive and with whom they have no relationship and for whom they have no responsibility.

If you conceive children out of wedlock, we will expect you and your families to find a way to take care of the expenses involved in raising that child. In America, that child is your responsibility and no one else's. You may look for help to charities funded by private, voluntary, compassion-driven donations, but you may not look to government to force other Americans at gunpoint to take money out of their wallets and fork it over to you. We are no longer going to treat you as helpless little children; we are going to treat you as the responsible adults you can become. It's time to grow up.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/afas-fischer-were-done-supporting-your-bastard-children

Why don't we just brand all children board out of wedlock with a giant mark on their face for life, right? I bet that would make them happy.

"Do you know why Lil' Timmy can't get SCHIP or go to public school?" We better make sure, AFA.

[Ishoutandscream2]

1. Are we sure this isn't the Onion?

My God, these people are just so frickin' sick!

[MajorChode]

40. It's right on the dum bastids' web site

http://action.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147493408

The OP only included the last 4 paragraphs, but the rest of it is just as comical.

[ejpoeta]

2. i recommend that these assholes no longer get to avoid taxes

this is bs. they call themselves christian!! they are no christians

[RKP5637]

21. +1,000, +++ n/t

[Liberal_in_LA]

3. OMG!!!! n/t

[Echo In Light]

4. G.Carlin re 'pro-lifers;' "If you're pre-natal, you're okay. If you're preschool, you're fucked."

[Quantess]

5. More...

I've always argued that one of the fixed rules of human nature is that you get more of what you subsidize,and we are going broke subsidizing the births of bastard children. This year, taxpayers will cough up $300 billion to provide welfare to single moms, with the average single mother getting three dollars back in benefits for every dollar she pays in taxes.

What lesson does she learn from this? Fornication pays.

As poorly educated as she is, the average poor single mother is apt to figure that the best way to increase her income is to have more illegitimate children by sticking out her hand to already overworked and overtaxed two-parent families.

[NotThisTime]

8. with this logic they oppose abortion why?

[Quantess]

13. Women who get abortions are cheating their punishment of having a baby

Women need to held accountable for their fornication. That's why.

[aquart]

28. Yep. Children are a woman's punishment for having sex.

I thought we all knew that.

[CTyankee]

42. But then they get blamed for their fornication, hey, it's perfect.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[ejpoeta]

33. hmm.... i was a 'single' mother, i guess as my boyfriend and i weren't married.

although bob and i lived together and got married in 2005 shortly before the birth of our second daughter. my children are not bastard children! and even if bob and i never married, then why the hell is it any of this jerk's business! or anyone else's!! why should his religion be forced on me or anyone else. he should friggin keep it to his damned self.

[Cleita]

6. I guess they really mean black and hispanic babies born out of wedlock.

I wonder if white babies count, or does mom get a discreet abortion, you know the appendicitis thing one of the Bush twins received? I wonder how much government assistance Bristol Palin is getting? Is Sarah paying her expenses? Was Levi's meth dealing mother helping out before Levi found fame? Enquiring minds want to know!

[Hekate]

45. Back in the bad old days, white babies got adopted out and there was no "shortage" like there is now

Abortions were only for the well-connected -- back in the bad old days darling Bristol no doubt would have been coerced into having one by her family. The other girls in Wasilla would have had to have shotgun weddings or live with the social disgrace -- or for the truly desperate, a very dangerous and very illegal abortion.

The options were not appealing, as I remember quite clearly from my youth.

Hekate

[donco6]

7. Jesus was a "bastard"

Just sayin'

[ejpoeta]

34. OMG! that is true!! and poor. and jewish!

[donco6]

49. He'd never make it into a country club.

What are they thinking?

[Mojambo]

9. Unfuckingbelievable. n/t

[closeupready]

10. We'll just put them in internment camps until they turn 18, make them work for their care.

At 18, bill them for services rendered but not yet paid for. :sarcasm:

[Hekate]

41. "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?" Ebenezer Scrooge before he saw the light...

... would concur wholeheartedly.

Hekate

edited to add :argh:

[arbusto_baboso]

11. These are the same assholes who will risk epidemics to deny health care to "illegals".

Tuberculosis doesn't care if the person who transmits it is here legally or not, or born to married parents, and if the next person to get it is a citizen and from an intact nuclear family. It just spreads, dumb fucks. Thanks for helping our society commit suicide, you stupid-ass conservo-twats!

[truedelphi]

18. Pounding head against wall.

Yes, they would willingly die and watch their families die, rather than permit common sense to have its day (at last.)

[rfranklin]

12. If we can no longer subsidize "immorality" funds will be withdrawn from...

the illegal and immoral wars of aggression in Afghanistan and Iraq.

[Burma Jones]

14. Didn't that jackass Gingrich propose Orphanages for just such children?

Jeez, haven't these people read Charles Dickens?

[Hekate]

43. Well, that would take care of the problem of the "shortage" of adoptable white babies, wouldn't it?

Also, they think Dickens wrote how-to books for social organization, not cautionary tales. I am being sarcastic, in case it's not apparent.

Hekate

:argh:

[gaspee]

15. OK, by their logic

only women are to blame for children born outside of marriage - so where are the men in their world?

This whole attitude makes me sick.

I think it's thinly veiled racism because in their eyes, it's hispanic and black people who have children outside of marriage - not white people - and they're wrong about that too.

[Scout]

16. "we will no longer force American taxpayers to fund the expenses of children they did not conceive"

"we will no longer force American taxpayers to fund the expenses of children they did not conceive and with whom they have no relationship and for whom they have no responsibility"

so they will be eliminating those deductions for dependent children born in wedlock then? 'cuz none of them are MINE and i ain't subsidizing those breeders anymore!

:sarcasm:

If you conceive children out of wedlock, we will expect you and your families to find a way to take care of the expenses involved in raising that child. In America, that child is your responsibility and no one else's. You may look for help to charities funded by private, voluntary, compassion-driven donations, but you may not look to government to force other Americans at gunpoint to take money out of their wallets and fork it over to you.

[LeftinOH]

17. One would think, then, that they'd be OK with abortions for unmarried women-

-but the AFA wouldn't dare suggest that -would they?

[Turbineguy]

19. Between Beck, Limbaugh and Palin

it's hard to get noticed.

[d_r]

20. don't these assholes know that after welfare reform

there is a lifetime limit to welfare? Good lord this is a 1970's rant isn't it?

[RKP5637]

25. They're not very well known for being current or ahead of the times with their

heads stuck back in biblical times... IMO even the 70's would be pretty advanced for that pack of fools.

[d_r]

51. good point

[tanyev]

22. Good thing Grandma Palin made $12 million this year.

I hope they aren't planning on the gravy train lasting forever.

[and-justice-for-all]

23. How xitan of them....

can you feel the love?

[brooklynite]

24. Caution - A Blog Post does not a Policy make...

Notwithstanding AFA's generally abysmal political philosophy, I read this this as a crackpot idea by one of their officials, not as a proposal either under consideration by or adopted by AFA.

[ck4829]

29. Bryan Fischer is the "brains" of the AFA

[MajorChode]

46. If they allow him to continue to speak on their behalf, it's their policy

This isn't the first time this fuckstick has made outrageous statements on behalf of the AFA. Also the AFA does have a clear policy on bigotry. These statements aren't out of alignment with their stated and published policies.

[DainBramaged]

26. Any American Family Association member who divorces LOSES all government services

for them and all of their families, with an s. That will fix their asses.

[mitchum]

27. Even little Twig???

[cap]

38. he's on Indian Health Service..

[damntexdem]

30. Well, it's very direct blaming the victim.

How wonderful that they show such Christian compassion. They truly support their own version of Jesus' words: "make the children suffer before me."

[Arkana]

31. Well then it's a good thing the AFA doesn't make social policy for this country.

Assholes.

[struggle4progress]

32. I'd heard the AFA were a buncha bastids. Now I know

[Book Lover]

35. "...force other Americans at gunpoint ..."

Yeah, motherfucker, the guns are trained on *you*

I'd laugh if it weren't so pathetic.

[Hekate]

36. Birth certificates used to be stamped "ILLEGITIMATE" in the bad old days. That'll sure follow a kid

Theocrats have got to be the meanest, ugliest people on the face of the Earth. Their god is not just vengeful, but spiteful and petty.

Hekate


edited to add :argh:

[Brickbat]

37. LMAO -- once they see how many of their supporters this would affect, I bet they'd change their tune

right smart quick.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. Too bad crazy isn't an alternative energy source.

Our power problems would be solved.

[dana_b]

44. fuck that, fuck THAT!!!

my daughter is not a "bastard" and they can go to fucking hell. Immorality - let he who has no sin and all that crap. I'm sure all these fuckers are pure as snow. Fuck them!!

Sorry - I am just sooo sick of other people's judgement. To say that children born out of wedlock are less deserving of any little benefit makes me sick.

[blondeatlast]

47. I propose idjit tax-exempt organizations that preach hate have their tax-exempt status revoked. nt

[Missy Vixen]

48. Praise the Lord

So, how many Republicans will get nailed by this new legislation?

Can't wait.

[eppur_se_muova]

50. THAT'LL teach 'em to, uh, be born. nt

[AnArmyVeteran]

52. Conservatives: Stay out of people's lives you religious fanatics!!!

My ex-sister-in-law and her lesbian partner went to China to adopt a little girl. They spent close to $20,000 to adopt her. If they didn't the girl wouldn't have lived long or would have been sold into prostitution. But right wing conservative christians would rather a vulnerable child be sold into prostitution than be allowed to go to a loving homosexual home. Right wing christians believe a child living in an abusive home with deranged HETEROSEXUAL parents is better than a child growing up in a nurturing, loving, supportive home with two same sex partners.

My representative, Robert Talton of Texas, tried to get a law passed that would have empowered state social workers to go to anyone's house and ask the occupant if they are gay or straight. And if they answered 'gay' then the social worker would have been empowered by law to remove all children from the homes. And this right wing republican claimed to be a Christian. People like him sicken me and give all Christianity a bad name. What is it with conservative christians that fill them with so much hatred? Robert Talton is just another religious fanatic who is completely void of any empathy or compassion. He has no idea what the teachings of Jesus meant.

I called Representative Talton's office and asked if they thought Dick Cheney's daughter, Mary Cheney, should have the government seize their newborn child? Of course they had no answer to my question, especially since I was talking about the republican vice president's daughter. But it is typical of conservative religious fanatics to want to impose their religious zealotry on everyone else, and yet also say they don't want government intruding into their lives. They are so extreme they fail to see the absolute hypocrisy of their actions.

If right wing christians had the chance they would turn our country into a 3rd century theocracy and our laws would be just as savage and barbaric as those practiced by other backward countries controlled by religious fanatics. There are NO differences between fundamentalist christians and Al Qaeda. Both will use any means to achieve their evil ends. And both want to oppress the will and freedoms of everyone who does not believe as they do, which includes all the sane people in the world.

Representative Robert Talton of Texas should do the honorable thing and resign. He is a disgrace and a danger to society and our country. And if soulless creatures like him were given the chance that precious little Chinese girl would have been probably been sold into prostitution at the age of 5, instead of living in a supportive, loving home with two wonderful women. Perhaps Talton should read the Bible until he figures out what love means. And perhaps he should "take the plank out of his own eye, before trying to remove the splinter from another's".

Right wing christianity is absolute evil.

[WolverineDG]

53. too bad for the AFA that the Constitution specifically prohibits

"bills of attainder" such as this. Sorry to rain on your parade, fuckwads, but you can't blame the kids for something their parents did.

Fucking troglodytes.

dg

[Manifestor_of_Light]

54. They think that piece of paper is magical.

Why, a marriage certificate will make that man LOVE you, HONOR you, be NICE to you, SUPPORT you and your child, and make everything wonderful, didn't ya know????

:sarcasm: