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madinmaryland
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:20 PM Original message |
I have come across DU'ers who think coal miners are overpaid in the last couple of days. |
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Dappleganger
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. That's crazy. |
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cynatnite
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not to mention the health hazards such as black lung... |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. My grandfather developed a lung infection (it was not black lung), |
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
41. Black lung killed my coal miner grandfather--a Sicilian immigrant in Pennsylvania. nt |
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MountainLaurel
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
65. That's what will kill my father |
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pitohui
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. some people are asses |
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SmileyRose
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Thu Apr-15-10 06:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
62. That about covers it. |
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flvegan
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. Spurlock's "30 Days" covered how untrue "overpaid" is. |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. It was the $70K meme that really pissed me off. |
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flvegan
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
32. And $70k wouldn't be proportionately fair pay. |
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wickerwoman
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Exactly. Who in their right mind would trade 20 years of their life |
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Incitatus
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:51 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Someone who feels they have no other options. |
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SmileyRose
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Thu Apr-15-10 06:22 AM Response to Reply #52 |
63. My Uncle - 30 years on the Ford assembly line and now disabled. |
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DainBramaged
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
179. Hear hear.... |
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Lucian
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Is that show still on? |
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flvegan
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Wasn't renewed last year, sadly. |
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lumberjack_jeff
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
177. That was completely awesome. Thanks for posting. n/t |
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
183. Holy crap, the workers are *avoiding* using safety gear! |
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Liquorice
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. I have three generations of coal miners in my family, and have also lost family in the mines. Anyone |
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Webster Green
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. I guess those DUers are entitled to their opinions on the subject. |
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csziggy
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. I've been thankful that my ancestors got out of coal mining |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Mine did also. |
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csziggy
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Yes, it was about 1870 when the Welsh guy came over |
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brendan120678
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
146. Many of my recent ancestors... |
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geardaddy
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
84. Your ggf must have been from North Wales then. |
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XOKCowboy
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. We're always accused of "Class Warfare" but that's exactly what this is.. |
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Canuckistanian
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Who, in their right mind thinks coal miners are paid well? |
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pitohui
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. it's a smear that has been spread in southern usa since the 1960s |
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Warpy
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. I wonder if they misread me, it wouldn't be the first time. |
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QC
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
14. This place has undergone a radical change the past couple of years. |
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pecwae
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Thu Apr-15-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
69. I didn't find it until '05, |
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Thu Apr-15-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
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Celeborn Skywalker
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
114. I agree the site has changed a bit. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #114 |
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Marr
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
140. It was easy to demagogue support for the working class when |
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WorseBeforeBetter
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
15. The same ones who think it's reasonable to try to live on $10/hr? |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. We got more than a few idiots |
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Maraya1969
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. I was born in West by God Virginia. No relatives in the mine but I get sick |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. It's not just hard, it is ****ing dangerous. They deserve to be paid well. |
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MadHound
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. Probably the same folks who think that teachers are overpaid, |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm more curious as to why someone would stay |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Interesting question. Do you have family? Would you leave your family |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. The family should be pushing them to get out . |
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madinmaryland
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Huh? Do you really think this is the 1850's, where you can just "go west young man"?? |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. You can go anywhere you want these days. |
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madinmaryland
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Go where? How naive are you? |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Whole country out there. Other people do it every day. |
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XOKCowboy
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. What about you? |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Yes, I did that many years ago. |
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harun
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Thu Apr-15-10 08:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
68. It isn't a tough question, just hard from some to understand who have |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #68 |
90. I've never understood it. |
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walldude
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
135. Because it's not as easy as you claim if your skill set |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. I don't recall saying it was easy. |
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walldude
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #137 |
148. Well I'm sorry that you missed the entire point. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. No, I finally got an explanation. |
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walldude
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Well I gave you what I thought was a reasonable answer |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. No, I never said any of that. But thank you anyway. |
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laughingliberal
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:39 AM Response to Reply #34 |
48. It's beside the point |
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Mopar151
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Thu Apr-15-10 05:12 AM Response to Reply #34 |
57. Try this explanation |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #57 |
79. Seems unlikely to me. |
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Dr.Phool
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
127. A lot of Appalachia is poorly educated. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. At least some of them got out anyway. |
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wickerwoman
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
64. Because when you've known real hunger and insecurity your tolerance for risk goes down. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. And the urge for a decent life goes up.. |
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WorseBeforeBetter
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:52 AM Response to Reply #28 |
53. Are you as critical of three generations of fisherman, police officers, or military? |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #53 |
81. I went up through the military. |
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Lars39
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
66. The family is their support system, their safety net. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #66 |
82. It's also keeping them down. |
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Lars39
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Will they have such a safety net in a larger city, far away? |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Did the early Americans have a safety net? |
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Lars39
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #88 |
111. Can't help but notice that you're Canadian. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Indeed I am. |
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Mopar151
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Tied by family, friends,culture, hatred of cities |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. That is not the only other option. |
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WorseBeforeBetter
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. "In the old days a high school education would have opened doors everywhere"... |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Yes, and now it's college or university. |
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WorseBeforeBetter
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Leave for what? A cushy job at Google with catered gourmet lunches? |
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Dappleganger
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Thu Apr-15-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
70. Why don't the poor leave big cities |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Poor usually flock to big cities because there are |
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uppityperson
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #77 |
169. "not once has anyone left the coal mines of W Virginia and found a job elsewhere?" WHO, beyond you, |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #70 |
89. BINGO! |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. A simple question. |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Question |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Which list of what? |
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uppityperson
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #97 |
170. You've been told why, yet argue "but why". Try reading the replies you've gotten |
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Thu Apr-15-10 05:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
60. My family is in mining |
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pecwae
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Thu Apr-15-10 08:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
71. Yep, they should just |
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Tailormyst
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
76. It's their home, their family |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #76 |
87. They're not leaving forever you know. |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. In desperate, limited-opportunity communities, the young generally have to pitch in |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. After 3-4 generations? |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Not much sociology, anthropology, psychology huh? |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. No answer, huh? |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Obviously you did not read far down-thread |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I've read all the posts. Still no answer. |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Well, none you are willing to accept. No matter. Others get it |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. I haven't seen one beyond fear of leaving home. |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Many thanks for playing along |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. You're welcome. |
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SpookyCat
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #99 |
159. You've received several well spoken and reasoned answers. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. And I thanked people for them and said |
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SpookyCat
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. It's a long thread, perhaps I have missed a post |
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #161 |
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Tailormyst
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #20 |
100. Then who would do the mining? |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Are you saying it's their duty? |
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Tailormyst
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #102 |
108. I'm saying that someone has to mine it. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. So use robots. |
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Tailormyst
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #110 |
124. Frankly I would think you would have more understanding then. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. It's not about my 'seeing things'. |
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Mopar151
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Thu Apr-15-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #110 |
184. Because there are far worse things for some than hard work. |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #102 |
116. Was a time (during 2 World Wars) when that was the thinking |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Well that makes sense. |
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patrice
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. Makes you wonder if they'd be able to recognize when someone(s) really are overpaid. |
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
26. I find this extremely hard to believe. |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Apr-14-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Well, they are repeating freeper talking points. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Freepers think miners are overpaid? |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. You think freepers are pro-working class? |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Eons ago when Drudge was new on the web, |
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laughingliberal
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:45 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. They may be working class but they tend to vote for those who support tax cuts for the wealthy and |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #49 |
78. Which is why I said they were crazy. |
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laughingliberal
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #78 |
106. The results of their votes are the same no matter what they think their intent is. nt |
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
55. And you only read Playboy for the articles. nt |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
173. Oh SNAP! |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
172. Oh. Oh oh oh. |
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Mojeoux
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
56. I agree..DU people and any real Democrat wouldn't make those kind of judgment calls. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #56 |
85. Freepers aren't DUers. |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
122. And the DU server does not prevent posting by corporate apologist |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. No, it doesn't. |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. The fact that you personally don't like the answers does not mean |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. It was an effort to understand something. |
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Tailormyst
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #133 |
154. It's really typical behavior |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. I think some of you 'read things in' that don't exist. |
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Tailormyst
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. Yup, sure |
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SpookyCat
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #155 |
163. Your questions have been answered repeatedly. |
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ZeitgeistObserver
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. And I've thanked people repeatedly. |
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SpookyCat
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. You are not worth any more of my time. |
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uppityperson
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #85 |
171. But some DUers are freepers. nt |
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Withywindle
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
40. I've seen even worse things than that. |
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amborin
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
50. i've come across anti-union attitudes, blind allegiance to party |
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Incitatus
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
51. Anyone who thinks they are overpaid is free to choose that profession. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
54. Do you have a link to that DU'ers post? |
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Thu Apr-15-10 05:26 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. +1 . .. . . . n/t |
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Thu Apr-15-10 05:28 AM Response to Original message |
59. It's not possible to overpay a coal miner. To my thinking anyway... |
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Thu Apr-15-10 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
61. Fuck them along with Blankenship! |
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Thu Apr-15-10 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
67. they're fools. there can't be too many of them, can there? |
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Thu Apr-15-10 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
72. The other side of the argument: "Coal magnates are paid too little." |
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Thu Apr-15-10 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
74. If it wasn't for coal miners, our precious society wouldn't function |
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Thu Apr-15-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
75. Any working person |
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
83. good gawd |
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Bobbie Jo
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
94. Well, whatever it is, its not enough. nt |
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
98. The corporate wing of the Democratic party |
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havocmom
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #98 |
123. Yep |
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
101. The line dividing conservatives from liberals is not parallel to the line dividing classes. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #101 |
136. Wow.. some of those posts are unbelievable... |
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #136 |
166. Indeed. But it keeps an important thread kicked, so that's good. n/t |
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. I had no idea that this is what would happen with this thread. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #136 |
167. Ironic computer hiccough...keeping post kicked myself! :-) |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
143. Well, the second post does figure for higher risk |
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
105. Just never fails to amaze. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
112. I don't need an ignore list to remember names--and those pushing that RW crap are remembered. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
115. My great-grandfather was a coal miner |
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
121. To help better understand lives of mine workers and families... |
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
125. I don't understand. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
126. Perhaps they think that only people with college degrees should be paid a decent salary |
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
132. LMFAO.. yeah, a CEO takes in millions and his biggest risk |
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Thu Apr-15-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
134. One could never pay me enough to have me do that bullshit. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
138. When Obama endorsed the Cadillac Tax, |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. "This place HAS changed." |
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Celeborn Skywalker
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #139 |
158. Why the f**k was your message above deleted? |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
141. k&r |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. HOW MUCH... |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
142. Saying Mine Workers are overpaid is Horseshit coming from anybody |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #142 |
145. Heh! |
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Thu Apr-15-10 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
147. If they are, they deserve it. Black lung is no fun |
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
149. Really? I wonder how much THEY would take to do the job? Because |
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Thu Apr-15-10 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
151. I may challenge a certain someone to show the guts to say what he's saying up here in GD. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #151 |
157. Coal Miners Are Not Overpaid!!!! |
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Thu Apr-15-10 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
174. I apologize for asking a question on here. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. Promise? |
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Thu Apr-15-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. How about you promise to quit arguing with all the answers then saying "but I thanked people"? |
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #176 |
187. +1000 |
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #174 |
180. Which question. And there were a lot of people responding to yours |
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #174 |
181. Oh Christ, now we get the manipulative, passive aggressive victim shit. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
178. Next to crab fishing in the Bering Sea, being a lumberjack, it is one of the deadliest professions |
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Thu Apr-15-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
182. There are a lot of DUers who don't know much |
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
185. Morons cross the ideological spectrum. |
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Thu Apr-15-10 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
186. K & R |
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