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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:15 PM Original message |
Obama Space Plan = WOW! |
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LLStarks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. We really should get back to the moon first. If we can't use Orion for both, then we've failed. nt |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Why? Per the Prez, been there, done that. nt |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Because experimenting with things like -- |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Lots of your concerns will be covered... |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
76. "concerns" nt |
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Rage Inc. (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 04:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
67. Agreed |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. The amount of "exploration" we've done on the Moon |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. That's Not Altogether True. |
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LLStarks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Do you not fantasize about moon bases and using its resources? nt |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. No, I don't, at all, and never did. I've always |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. My argument is that money saved will never be spent on the things here where it's needed. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I was asked my opinion and gave it. I don't fantasize about the moon program. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Using these words.... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Again, that's my opinion. I know there are many people who |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. You're apologizing to ME for snark? |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
77. You are not alone at all nt |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. there is a third option |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. That I can get behind. Post#13 discusses how Obama is |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. The moon is the appropriate trial for any trip to Mars - unless the only |
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breadandwine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 05:47 AM Response to Reply #36 |
69. RaleighNCDUer, see my post 68 and also consider Mars Direct which skips the Moon entirely. |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. What would be the point of going back? |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Well, for starters it could be a great place for Tea baggers. nt |
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negativenihil (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Going back |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. It's so much cheaper to go back with unmanned missions |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. We've recently found water there, for one. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Right. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I was answering the specific question above, not pushing for manned missions. |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 06:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
70. We make things in space... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Until and unless the world as a whole wants to pour resources |
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Seeker7 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
92. Once we build systems to travel in deep space |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. We need to go back eventually, but not before several major problems are solved |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Regarding Orion |
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Seeker7 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. Obama understands space economics |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R... |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Thanks, Sid. n/t |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. i agree, great news! |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. Wonder what Armstrong's opine is on that news...n/t |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Buzz Aldrin likes it, Armstrong doesn't. nt |
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Seeker7 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
88. Armstrong never heard Obama's plan |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. Hopefully it will be fully-funded and fully paid for. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. Excellent News! |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
15. Well I hope that plan includes a space ship or platform that has |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
39. weightless only when stopped |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. And that was my point. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
17. Obama will fly us to the asteroids and Mars. Teabaggers will fly us into the IRS building. n/t |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
19. Beautiful plan. Reminds me of the last 5 minutes of Life on Mars. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
20. Kicked and recommended. |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
22. screw the moon. We don't need it to get to mars anyway |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. holy shit! nt |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
28. Damned annoying to see both CNN and MSNBC rush in immediately afterwards |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
32. Going to Mars will feed, clothe and house every human |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. When Dimson mentioned a mission to Mars he was roundly ridiculed. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Obama turns shit to gold |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. Actually, it was about the only halfway intelligent thing Bush did. Except he didn't fund it. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
87. I thought it was one of the few things he got right. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
62. Amazing, that the tiny amount of $ for NASA keeps so many problems 'down here' from being solved |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #32 |
78. Your posts become more worthless as each day passes. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I don't meet your approval? |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. You know what's funny? I kind of picture you in a dark closet crying all day. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Is this an uber-intelligent, tit-for-tat, whoever-replies-last-wins subthread? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
34. Any other link to video? |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. kewl! |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
45. Meh. No funding for space elevator. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Doubt Congress has anything close to the vision necessary to try that |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. +1 |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
46. "2500 jobs for..." |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
48. Maybe we can cut more from medicare. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. we'll borrow more money from China |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I think I just saw sputnik fly over my building.... |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
54. Compare to Bush's silly man-to-Mars plan... (nt) |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
56. this is such false spin! 7000 jobs will be lost , with 2,500 jobs added = total net loss of 4,500 |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Newsbusters? |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. if you bothered to go to the link you would have seen it was an MSNBC interview.. |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. The point is Newsbusters ONLY extracted negative commentary |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. it was on my LOCAL FLA NEWS TONIGHT..but it was not posted on their web site.. |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. The problem is not MSNBC |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #61 |
73. seems the problem is with MSNBC because when you go to their web site, and you use their search .. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. This was not "MY SOURCE" it was MSNBC's Source for " their own story and interview" ! eom |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. Speaking of Spin |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
84. I think the MAJOR point is... |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Why the false reporting from you? |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #65 |
74. see post 73! The news buster story was posted on MSNBC web site as a source for their own interview! |
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Naturalist111 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
64. It would be less costly to just give a potent drug |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 04:30 AM Response to Original message |
66. I volunteer to go to Mars |
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breadandwine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
68. Subdivisions, for a different view, what do you think of this article --- |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
71. I would like to add one argument for going to the moon: |
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breadandwine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Dmbk, I wouldn't get overly excited about going to the Moon. |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Don't think you get it |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
72. Space priorities |
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Seeker7 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
91. The masses are smarter than you think |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
89. when he said that he wanted to orbit Mars he lost me... |
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Seeker7 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. We won't just orbit Mars |
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