C-SPAN3 - Senate Foreign Relations Cmte. w/ Baker & Hamilton

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http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[maddezmom]

1. thanks for the reminder and the link

:hi:

[bdamomma]

2. to those of us who cannot get this, update us if possible thanks

[sabra]

3. Baker is reading opening statement essentially reviewing ISG recommendations

and how Bush didn't listen to all recos

[fooj]

5. Are you getting it with picture? I'm only hearing them...

[sabra]

7. I clicked the stand alone player link, and it seems to be working fine

[fooj]

Thanks!

:hi:

[helderheid]

4. thanks - this is the same person on the board of the Carlyle Group

http://www.hereinreality.com/baker.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Baker

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6. Hamilton will continue with the second half of the opening statement

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8. Hamilton and Baker patting each other on the backs

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9. Hamilton speaking on how US should negotiate with Iran now!

[Shoelace]

10. this am's testimony by scientists, was riveting, shocking!

and while I'm not easily shocked, things were revealed about govt's manipulation of scientif data on global warming, that was intensely revealing. Glad I didn't miss it and took copious notes.
Roger Pielke was there, giving the usual mixed messages about "cherry picking" climage change data, planting his usual seeds of doubt, etc.
Also present; Dr. Shindell (NASA/Goddard), Francesch Grifo (Union of Concerned Scientists), et al.
What came out was the extent to which the American Petroleum Industry has been such a huge player in sabotaging the efforts of thousands of scientists and their documents, studies showing the science behind the threat of global warming (which was changed to "climate change" and so much more. Very disheartening but glad the truth comes out now.

Let's hope their testimonies rock the US into action!

[newyawker99]

35. Hi Shoelace!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Shoelace]

36. delighted to be here~

I've been lurking for ages, but was busy on another forum, trying to convince folks there that climate change is upon us and we need to move on to solutions. No joy - too many freepers so it was a waste of time.
How great to be here posting at last!
:grouphug:

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11. Biden asks: Why would Iran not want chaos in Iraq?

as Baker mentioned in his opening statement.

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12. Baker: Iran doesn't want the problems of a chaotic Iraq,

but they don't mind seeing US being bogged down in Iraq.

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13. Hamilton: Iran wouldn't want a sectarian war that would descend into the region

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14. Hamilton: We don't consider talking as appeasement!

[halobeam]

16. Isn't it a sad state when we are fighting our govt. to be diplomatic first.

Gees. Unreal.

[fooj]

15. Wow. What's up with Hamilton?

Our policy with IRAN is NOT working.

[sabra]

17. Hagel up now...

[bdamomma]

18. Hagel, update please as soon as you can get it. thanks

[sabra]

19. finds it amazing that we won't talk to Iran when Iraq has strong ties with Iran

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20. Baker: We should talk to Iran even if they don't want to help (weird)

thinks we really missed the boat with Syria

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21. thinks Syria wants to be a team player

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22. Hagel: You didn't really answer the questions (re: Iran)

you are saying a lot of "ifs ifs ifs"

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24. Hamilton: Back in December we pushed for diplomatic measures

BushCo ignored that one

[fooj]

23. Baker is a f*cking shill...

Sec. Rice? Oh sure, Baker. We have soooooo much FAITH in her. :P

[sabra]

25. Warner up now..

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26. actually Dodds turn

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27. Dodd: When he and Kerry visited Syria - they were told by the Syrian prez

that they don't want an Iranian theocratic type Iraq

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28. Hamilton: Agrees that Syria want's a secular Iraq

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29. Hamilton: Iran - shiite Syria - sunni

really...

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30. Sununu up now..

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31. Hamilton: I personally have no faith in al Maliki

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32. Hamilton: We may be right but may also be wrong?

:wtf:

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33. Menedez up... asking about benchmarks with out consequences...

[fooj]

34. "Why not GET TOGETHER?"

GMAB, Baker. The little prick doesn't care what the Congress says.