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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:40 PM Original message |
There is no law we can pass that will "fix" illegal immigration |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. May I be the first to K&R? |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. Amen. |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Have these stupid people in the AZ Legislature who have passed SB 1070, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I think they are trying to tamp down the teahadist anger |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. They even teach it here |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. They sell it on Faux News 24/7. n/t |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. the US has always tacitly supported |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. And few of us are aware of what is happening in those countries |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. Your point also applies to almost everything we do |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:00 PM Original message |
If you think about it, all of those things were sold to us |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
40. That is the point. Scapegoat others and blame any of our problems on them. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Right -- or realizing that these people come here |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. Indeed, Ma'am |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. It upsets me to see working people disrespected, Your Honor. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
48. Wasn't that a goal of NAFTA? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Passing" laws never fixes any problem but "enforcing" laws may fix a problem. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Do you really think that hungry people can be contained by enforcement? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I said "'enforcing' laws MAY fix a problem" pointing out the futility of just "passing" laws without |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. There is no profit in enforcement for the biggest donors |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Makes sense to me and it keeps illegal aliens as a divisive, polarizing issue that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. That's it exactly, imho. n/t |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. HUGE K & R !!! |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
17. Most of the immigrants from Mexico would be Dems if given the choice so we have that in common. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Precisely. Thanks for getting it, county worker. n/t |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I use to be a great xenophobe. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. LOL |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. knr. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. How bout - ALL WORKERS MUST BE UNIONIZED? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Capital has globalized so labor must globalize. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. OK capital is organized so organize labor but what about consumers, who protects them? n/t |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. labor is the consumers. nt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Only in a fascist government. If people retain their inalienable rights then at least some will not |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Capital is already globalized. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Do you propose that all labor goals be adopted by simple majority & then enforced by labor? n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I don't think you need worry about being oppressed by a union |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. LOL have a great day and goodbye. n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. Exactly, all the whining about who is where is useless |
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sfpcjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
27. True |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
30. .. |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
31. Amen! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
32. Most Norteamericanos know NOTHING about what their country has done in Latin America |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I'm predicting Evo will be a more prominent target |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
34. we ignore context at our peril -- k/r |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
36. K and R. eom |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
37. Solidarity |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
38. Bingo. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
41. For People Serious About Actually Altering The Flow Of Workers Across The Border, Ma'am.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I'm afraid that labor has been so weakened here in the states |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
47. "Workers of the world, Unite!" is, actually, a pretty good idea. K&R |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
49. I'm pretty sure enforcement of the laws we have now would do a good job of fixing the problem. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. Well said. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Well, that's true but those multinational entities rely on our military |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
52. Would that there were one region to consider; |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
53. And here is Exhibit A. |
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