Allow me to apologize

[democrat0986]

I posted a comment on the video in which Senator Franken is talking about the need for financial reform. The comment was "Franken sounds drunk here... He sounds like he needs to lay off the sauce." I apologize for my comments. Sometimes we say the first thing that comes to our heads and that was the first thing that came to mine. Now I want to make it very clear that I am NOT a republican troll. I am very progressive and I want to make sure that that is extremely clear. I have been asked to leave Democraticunderground for being a "troll". I even thought about doing it for a minute. The comments I recieved in response to my own angered me very much. But, because I understand where the anger is coming from, I decided to stomp that anger and make this post instead. From time to time, I am going to make comments that go against the grain. I may criticize the president some times (like when he lets Health care reform end up weak), but I voted for the man and I will vote for him again.
Lastly, I want you all to be aware that you are driving people away from this site by calling every dissenting voice a "Troll". It's ridiculous. I've been a member of DU for 4 years now and I'm not going to leave because I made one moronic comment. We all make them from time to time. It doesn't make us "Trolls". Again, I apologize for making the comment.

*updated for grammar 9:56*

[LiberalAndProud]

1. Wow. Four years and less than 200 posts!

That's some judicious use of the keyboard, my friend.

And if you were invited to leave, let me invite you to stay. (kind of a rec, unrec thing, right?)

'sall good.

:grouphug:

[democrat0986]

7. yes, i hang in the background most of the time

i watch videos and read "Greatest" posts. I usually don't post responses and make posts of my own very seldom.

[Electric Monk]

33. Four years in under two years, no less! (Aug 04th 2008 join date) nt

[mikita]

35. perhaps he was lurking for a few years....

it happens, ya know.

[democrat0986]

39. Thank you. That is exactly the case.

See the post down bellow "Yes 2008 was the first time I made a post".

[democrat0986]

36. See post down bellow "yes 2008 was the first time i made a post"

[democrat0986]

37. Thanks for that LiberalAndProud

[rurallib]

2. Sounds good to me. Lord knows I have made some really dumb comments

that I wish I could retrieve too late.

[democrat0986]

8. Thank You

We all make stupid comments sometimes. We usually regret them, but the happen. Live and learn.

[mitchtv]

3. I got some mean comments when I said

basically the same about Nancy Pelosi. I;m not sure I was wrong

[seabeyond]

4. i listened to it earlier while cooking. either not a good speaker, reader or nervous.

towards the end i disconnected.

didnt think of drunk, but if you got razzed, ah well. you apologized.

obama um use to um drive um me um crazy um with all um of um his ums.

i think we can point it out without having to apologize, as long as it is respectful

[democrat0986]

9. Yeah, I don't think I was respectful about it

I meant it as a joke, but I should have specified or not said anything at all.

[mikita]

5. I think you explained yourself well enough in the original thread

and that you don't really owe anyone an apology.

There is an attitude about post counts here that I quite often find offensive. I've been a DU member for almost ten years (I believe), but still don't have a lot of posts. There is usually someone who expresses something better than I do.

Here's to you. :toast:

Mikita

[seabeyond]

6. you really dont have that many. funny you. and i talk and talk and talk

lol.

cute.

[democrat0986]

30. by replying to all these comments

I suppose I'm driving up that count. But after this post drops and there are no more posts to respond to, I will probably go back into the shadows and continue watching my videos and reading threads without speaking.

[seabeyond]

38. omg... that number is climbing. lol. well, if the shadows work for you

me, ... not so much.

i hate the religious belt too... well, hate is strong. i dont hate anything. but man, is it challenging.

(your profile. i hate the religious belt)

[democrat0986]

40. Yes, I hate it too

I have to live in it. lol. It sucks pretty bad. I've been atheist for about a year now. I was agnostic for about 3 years. Sometimes, these religious nut jobs down here are so obnoxious, it's hard not to hit them in the face. But I haven't been in a fight since I was a freshman in High School.

[seabeyond]

42. oh dude

play some music. tames the wild beast.

[democrat0986]

43. That it does. Check this song out

I wrote this song about religion about a year ago. myspace.com/ryanwoodmusic. it's the first song there, titled "Broken Book" I think it gives my views on religion perfectly.

[seabeyond]

54. i will

i shut computer off after posting, lol.

el paso ugly, but it is a fun place because whites minority. a unique feel. and yes, dem. i visit there. hubby family lives there.

[democrat0986]

51. by the way

I'm originally from Texas too. El Paso though. El Paso is a very democratic part of Texas. That wasn't so bad.

[Caretha]

61. Don't worry about it :)

It took me 8 years to reach that magic "1000" post count.

[democrat0986]

11. Yes, that's often why I don't post

usually, someone has already said what want to say... sometimes, better than I would have said it.

[mikita]

15. since we have the same MO

perhaps we can just keep responding to each other, and drive up our post counts to an acceptable level??

BTW, I got to shake hands with Obama Saturday night at dinner, and it was the first time my thread didn't sink like a stone.....

[democrat0986]

29. Wow

That's pretty awesome. I've always wondered what it would be like to shake the hand of such a wonderful and powerful man. I was talking to a rethuglican the other day who said he wouldn't even go to the white house if he was invited. I couldn't understand that. Even if I were invited to the white house by the moron who left office in 2009, I would go. It's an experience you tell your grandchildren about, meeting the president. Even if the particular president you met was a moron like Bush. I would say "Johnny." Then I would readjust my false teeth and go on, "Did I ever tell you about the time I met the worst president this country has had since Buchannan? His name was George W. Bush."

[NNN0LHI]

10. Takes a class act to make a public apology

Trolls aren't class acts so you are obvious no troll.

I post stuff I regret all the time too so don't think its just you who does it.

If sounds good in my brain I post it. Sometimes it works. Other times not so much.

It happens.

Don

[democrat0986]

13. Thanks Don

You often make good comments, which I read. You often say what I'm thinking so I don't have to say it. Thank you for your warm comments here.

[BrklynLiberal]

12. As one of your possible accusers, I would like to apologize.

I could not accept the idea that anyone would think Sen Franken was drunk..and that it could have been just an honest comment that I disagreed with.

[democrat0986]

16. Thank you for that,

It was a bad joke, badly made. I appreciate your apology.

[seeviewonder]

14. It is ridiculous to have someone call you a troll

just because you made a dissenting comment. I am somewhat new here (about a year now) and I was called a troll a few weeks after I became a member. It is not a good feeling at all. I mean seriously, if there is any place online where progressives can come together and have a sense of comraderie, DU is it. But when an avid member is called a troll because of a comment against something the President said/did or against a Congressman/Congresswoman something has gone horribly wrong with the people here. I, too, voted for Obama and just about every other progressive candidate I could find on the ballot and will continue to do so even though I may not agree with everything they stand for or vote for. The offshore drilling statement by Obama a few weeks ago comes to mind since I didn't agree with that as well as the full repeal of DADT. I support that but it hasn't happened yet and he doesn't seem like he's intent on it. Anyway, I'm done blabbering I just wanted to make that point.

[democrat0986]

20. Well said

I was called a tea bagger. That was the one that really stung. I visit this site every single day. I'm an avid DU video watcher and post reader. I get at least half of my news from DU. It was a shock to be told I was a freeper and a tea partier.

[southernyankeebelle]

17. Its OK to disagree just do it respectfully that is all I ask for.

[democrat0986]

22. Understandable. Usually I think before I post

It was very late and I had just finished spending seven hours on a Psychology research paper. I was pretty tired and I was winding down for bed. I assure you that I am normally very respectful. In the future, I will think before I post.

[seeviewonder]

18. It is ridiculous to have someone call you a troll

just because you made a dissenting comment. I am somewhat new here (about a year now) and I was called a troll a few weeks after I became a member. It is not a good feeling at all. I mean seriously, if there is any place online where progressives can come together and have a sense of comraderie, DU is it. But when an avid member is called a troll because of a comment against something the President said/did or against a Congressman/Congresswoman something has gone horribly wrong with the people here. I, too, voted for Obama and just about every other progressive candidate I could find on the ballot and will continue to do so even though I may not agree with everything they stand for or vote for. The offshore drilling statement by Obama a few weeks ago comes to mind since I didn't agree with that as well as the full repeal of DADT. I support that but it hasn't happened yet and he doesn't seem like he's intent on it. Anyway, I'm done blabbering I just wanted to make that point.

[seeviewonder]

19. It is ridiculous to have someone call you a troll

just because you made a dissenting comment. I am somewhat new here (about a year now) and I was called a troll a few weeks after I became a member. It is not a good feeling at all. I mean seriously, if there is any place online where progressives can come together and have a sense of comraderie, DU is it. But when an avid member is called a troll because of a comment against something the President said/did or against a Congressman/Congresswoman something has gone horribly wrong with the people here. I, too, voted for Obama and just about every other progressive candidate I could find on the ballot and will continue to do so even though I may not agree with everything they stand for or vote for. The offshore drilling statement by Obama a few weeks ago comes to mind since I didn't agree with that as well as the full repeal of DADT. I support that but it hasn't happened yet and he doesn't seem like he's intent on it. Anyway, I'm done blabbering I just wanted to make that point.

[seeviewonder]

23. Sorry about that

I'm doing this on my BlackBerry and it didn't post right the first time so I ended up doing it again and I ended up posting the same thing three times. My bad...

[democrat0986]

31. I only see two :)

but it's alright. Another point illustration right there. We all make mistakes. That's why we put erasers on pencils.

[Quantess]

41. I got called a troll once when I was a newbie.

Because I made a sarcastic/joking comment about the Grateful Dead.

[democrat0986]

44. *sharp intake of breath* the grateful dead???!!!!

TROLL!!! :)

[Quantess]

52. And it was on a thread by a respected long-time DUer too.

So I guess whoever called me a troll thought I was committing two acts of blasphemy. Oh well. 14,000 posts later....

[conscious evolution]

56. Being called a troll for heckleing The Dead

would be an insult to trolls.
:silly:

[Canuckistanian]

21. We all say stupid things

But it takes a real mensch to realize and own up to it.

:thumbsup:

[democrat0986]

24. Thank you for that.

[ClarkUSA]

25. Fuhgeddaboudit!

:D

[democrat0986]

26. I completely agree

My point illustrated here by this gentleman. :)

[The Straight Story]

27. First rule of fight club, err DU, need a thick skin. Took me awhile to get one

And I can tell you I have pissed off more people here than you ever will :)

It takes time, just jump in but be prepared to defend what you say - or admit you were wrong (which I have done more than once).

[democrat0986]

32. Thanks for the advice

I'll keep that in mind.

[slay]

28. I did not know there was anything to apologize for

however - if you click on the profile icon next to the envelope looking thingy beside your name it says your join date at DU as "Aug 04th 2008". I don't say this for any reason other than to correct you on your statement that you have been a member for 4 years. I have no reason to think you a troll. Trolls become quite evident over time, not over any one post IMO. It's cool bro - we all make mistakes. :)

Oh yeah - I criticize Obama too when I think he's not acting like the man I voted for (which is a lot - I'm quite disappointed - but that's for another post.. heh)

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[democrat0986]

34. Yes, 2008 was the first time I made a post

There was something I wanted to say so bad that no one else was saying and had to make a profile. I've been visiting since 2006. There was so much going on during the election, though, that I had to talk a little once in a while.

[lonestarnot]

45. Shamety shamety, shame on you

:spank: :spank: :spank: Now stand in the damn corner. Ok you can come out now so long as you don't speak drunkenness about Al again unless you have evidence.

[democrat0986]

46. *turns back from the corner shamefaced*

:banghead:

[lonestarnot]

47. You're on my buddy list.

:evilgrin:

[democrat0986]

48. excellent :) thanks

[gristy]

49. Thank you for apologizing. I accept your apology.

The post that you had made was demeaning and thoughtless.

[democrat0986]

50. Yes it was. I understand how you and others felt about it

and I'm glad that you accept the apology.

[quickesst]

53. Ha ha...

..My suggestion is to start posting now and don't stop until you reach a thousand. Seems to be the magical number for many here on DU. Thanks.
quickesst

[madokie]

55. It takes a good person to apologize

so that makes you a good person in my eyes.
Peace

You should have read some of the dandies I've written here during the time I've been allowed here. We all fuck up sometimes

[scheming daemons]

57. "I've been a member of DU for 4 years".... Profile says you joined Aug 4, 2008

Hint: When apologizing and trying to deflect criticism that you're a troll, don't lie.

[mikita]

58. wow,

he explained a number of times upthread, that he lurked for a few years before "joining".

Note to you: read the thread before you call someone a liar.

Have an enlightened day.

[scheming daemons]

59. Then the appropriate statement is "I've read DU for 4 years"... not "I've been a MEMBER for 4 years"

I don't think the poster is a troll.


But he should not "embellish" his story in an effort to deflect it.

[mikita]

60. doesn't excuse you

from calling him a liar. I think you owe him an apology. (since you insist on being so technical).

[democrat0986]

65. Thank you for that defense

[mikita]

66. I think you've done enough

explaining and penance, don't you?

:toast:

[democrat0986]

67. yes, i suppose so

i'm going to go do math homework. Got a test tonight :hurts:

[democrat0986]

64. i did not feel that having a profile made me a member

i felt a part of this place since i began reading and watching videos here. for the most part, DUers and I are like minded. So, even though I have only had a profile since 2008, I still feel like I've been a member of DemocraticUnderground for four years.

[mstinamotorcity]

62. Apology accepted

We all have said some things that we shouldn't at certain times or places.S--t happens. Hey I have been trying to work on my profanity but as you can see it doesn't go to well sometimes. And if I get a little heated I will spell it out in a heartbeat. Then get a little pissed with myself because I do have a vocabulary that is quite extensive that should be used instead. But sometimes I want that cuss word just to make it clear. Here's hoping you don't have to shy away from posting.:hi: :hi: :hi:

[JoeyT]

63. I missed the original thread

and I love Franken(Both as a comedian and a politician), but I'd have probably been kind of amused by the irony of people getting all outraged over a joke on behalf of a comedian that pushed the envelope as often as he did.

Maybe being a liberal or non-religious in this state desensitizes us to that sort of thing. We know everything we say will offend everyone around us, so we just figure "Fuck it.". ;) It's obvious you aren't a teabagger or a troll. Who the hell has the patience to reach that post count just so they can say Al Franken sounds drunk in a video?

[newtothegame]

68. There are a lot of of people here on some pathetic desperate hunt for trolls.

Ignore them. Forgiven, thanks for your contributions!