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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:53 AM Original message |
The Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. well it's clear that people are becoming steadily more deranged |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I've noticed that too. I think all of us are at least a little depressed...rop |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Live for yourself and your family, Nobody else matters. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. hang in there, LiberalLoner |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Oh, I wish so much we could have meet-ups. I just wish I felt I could fit in somewhere. rop |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. What does 'rop' mean? |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I'm sorry, it means "read on please" I use it when my post continues n/t |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. That's fine, but if you're the only one that knows what it means, you probably needn't bother. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Yes...I wish I were better at not being so hard on myself. I wish I could figure out how to |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Well, I shouldn't be giving advice as I have my own problems... |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. LOL! That's a good motto. I always think, the people who are mean, aren't worth having around n/t |
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StarlightGold (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
56. Hang in there |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Thank you so much! I love you guys more than I can say. I know that's an odd thing to say, but |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
80. No, you don't really wish that. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Thank you so much. :) I'm reaching out to my neighbors as a first step :) n/t |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #82 |
97. Good for you!!!! |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Wow - can I relate to your post. I am just so tired of the rat-race. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Thank you so much. :) I'm sorry to know others are suffering but on the other hand |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. A lot of people, at some level, want society to collapse because |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Thank you. :) I am going to do this before my courage vanishes (I am very shy) and I will |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Well, I dropped a note off at her door inviting her over, asked her if she would |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Fantastic! You have just made a big step to being part of the solution! |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Oh, thank you so much! You brought tears to my eyes with this beautiful poem/song! Thank you! :) |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Re weird v normal: What passes for 'normal' isn't all that great these days |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. LOL! Your daughter is smart! :) Thank you again :) n/t |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
79. Not dorky at all! At one time, that would have been considered "neighborly"! n/t |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. Great, LL! |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Thank you so much! Keeping my fingers crossed she will call n/t |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. I'm actually thinking a proposal for potluck "salon dinners" among DUers |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
113. Don't worry, you are not crazy... |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Okay, I've decided, everyone is invited to my place for some BBQ and a love-in! :) Wish I could |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I would be there with bells on, carrying wine, flowers, and dessert! |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. :) I remember sleeping out on the deck in summer as a kid with my cousins...oh |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
77. I understand how you feel, LiberalLoner..... |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Oh, I do that too, if I don't make a list I'm hopeless, LOL :) n/t |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Sad to say, I DID make a list!...... |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. As someone who has suffered with depression on and off for years, i am glad |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
90. I object to the drug pusher ads myself. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. OR: modern society is making people ill so more seek pills to deal with it |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. YES!!!!!!! EXACTLY!!!!!! n/t |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. We're all being bullied or bullies and intimidated or intimidating. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Yep, our core value (societally) is money |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Wow - so profound. My thyroid is dead, so is my husband's. I know I have |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Stress and...(see post #13). |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. There's room at the top they're telling you still. But first you must learn how to smile as you kill |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Oh I love that song. :) That and "Power to the People" and "Mind Games" n/t |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. ...and we know what society did to Lennon... |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Not all society, just one crazy guy who had a huge sense of entitlement...n/t |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. ah, his murder was not the only thing done to him. Officials in society did much harm to him |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Oh, that's true, John had to fight very hard not to be deported, I remember that. I was a big John |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. Fantastic line there: |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. thanks, I needed that |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. And you got it! |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
92. Thank you; that's exactly how I feel.... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Yup. That's the ticket. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. yep...that's exactly what I wanted to say. Our society is very sick. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
91. Wish I could rec a reply. |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
93. OR: depression doesn't carry the stigma it once did so more people feel comfortable seeking help/ |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
110. Bingo! With how stressed people are nowdays of course many are going to snap. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
4. Oh, yeah, it's all the evil drug companies |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Hmm..yes, part of it IS the drug companies. |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
5. I've seen the iatrogenic course Whitaker describes in several individuals |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
6. In a society as densely propagandized as ours, it's no surprise since illusion = "reality" for many |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
7. I thought this was going to be a teabaggers thread. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
8. "Cool. More recruits for us against America." - TeaBaggers (R) |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
87. Fuck you. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
111. That post is very offensive to us DUers with mental illnesses. |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
9. Read Galbraith |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. And a mentally/spiritually ill populace, within specific framing, is more easily manipulated/coerced |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
10. a big thing lacking in our lives is harmony |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
42. +1 |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
59. "a pharma pill cannot provide harmony" |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
13. Humanity is being exposed to more chemicals than ever before |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. +1 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. ding! ding! ding! |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. I agree. While each individual chemical has been given at |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. I was diagnosed as having fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome for 30 years |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. CVS actually _called_ me last week to push me to refill Synthroid |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
94. Actually, I think most of them are "Pharmacy Techs" now.... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
104. Synthroid is a con game. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
105. Oh, and I'm still trying to rebuild my dead adrenals. You always have to do that |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Any idea where we can get REAL dessicated thyroid, OTC? rop |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
95. canadadrugs.com has Armour. . your doc won't prescribe it, or T3? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
103. If you are on Facebook join the "stop the thyroid madness" group there |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
43. Thanks for those important links, Lorien |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
101. Yes, yes, yes!!!! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Yep, I've been sick for 30 years but didn't become profoundly ill until 10 fillings |
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MsLizzy (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. Lorien, thanks for sharing my story |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
15. A great big K&R |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
18. Our society is dysfunctional. |
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gvstn (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
36. Thanks |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. I'm so sorry. n/t |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
38. ..... Time to hit the re-set button.... |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
114. How about an oil exploration platform ? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
47. Isn't it interesting that the victims of greed and hatefulness are seen as "mentally ill", yet |
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caseycoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. More like... |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. Another example of that is that rapists in families are often seen as normal, but |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
99. Oh, LiberalLoner, I'm so sorry! Yes, that is exactly the process I am talking about! |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #99 |
112. Thank you. I'm okay. I'm in a loving healthy relationship now and away from |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
71. The worst examples are the in-betweeners who champion that 'success' & desperately want it... |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
96. Good point, Bobbolink! |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
52. This could be the chicken & the egg and is not easily untangled. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Oh, that's awful, I'm so sorry. :( Hoping for her healing. n/t |
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harry_pothead (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
72. Yes, we have all seen a lot of mental illness |
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Crystal Clarity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. That's just your run-of-the-mill ignorance. nt |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
86. And a lot of fucking assholes equating it to teabaggery. |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
98. WTF?????? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
107. Your bigotry against the mentally ill is noted. |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
74. I don't discount the first 9 years of this decade |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
85. We need treatments most for *learned helplessness* of the average American and a healthy DISTRUST |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
100. Kick for the night shift. Lots of good thought and good links in this one |
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1955doubledie (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
102. k&r |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
108. Tip: If stimulant medication makes a kid manic that kid CANNOT have ADHD. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
109. ...As someone who's been crazy as a shithouse rat |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. I get the feeling that people ARE taking drugs to fix situational problems....." |
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