Pat Buchanan just said the police used to ask him for his draft card all the time. Say what?

[NNN0LHI]

http://web.blomand.net/~dennmac/reich-wing/chickenhawks.html

"Republican/Conservative Chickenhawk Hall of Infamy"


* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got
assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running
for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam,
disappeared from duty.
* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." (The man who attacked Max
Cleland's patriotism.)
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* John Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role
making movies. Quit while the war was still going on.
* "B-1" Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in
Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL
for 8 years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve.
* John Wayne: did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
* Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't
shoot back.)

[Christa]

1. K & Highgly recommended. nt

[muffin1]

2. Don't know what would make Pat say that,

except for the fact that he's a lying asshole. Sorry, lying, RACIST asshole.

And every time I see that list, my blood fucking boils. Nearly everyone on that list shit on the heroic service of Max Cleland and John Kerry.

Shitbags, all.

[havocmom]

8. He would say it to make the case that HE was persecuted so OK for others to be

Except that his assertion is totally crap. ALL males of a certain age had to register and police did not go around asking people to show them the card, unless perhaps, in the case of anti-war protesters.

Why would cops waste time on such a thing back then? Pat is trying to make excuses for this new travesty. And he is so far gone in the head that he might just believe his own lies. Some people really get off on being persecuted, even when they have to fabricate events.

[muffin1]

10. .

:thumbsup:

[smoogatz]

14. He may be referring to all those times he got caught up in police raids

on West Village bath-houses in the '60s. You know, doing "research."

[flakey_foont]

3. so what's the pat, Point?

what has that got to do with anything???

[pinboy3niner]

4. He'd have a card just by virtue of the fact of being registered with the draft

He probably didn't serve because, while registered, he wasn't called up.

[upi402]

5. Chickenhawks and yellow elephants R them! +1,000 n/t

[jdlh8894]

6. Not sure what your point is? N/T

[doc03]

7. Back in our day everyone had to carry a draft card

I don't remember a policeman ever asking for my draft card but that was the identification they always ask for to buy alcohol. We all had them some of us were drafted and the privileged got out of it.

[jdlh8894]

13. Back in our day!!!

Thanks for making me feel like an Old Phart!!LOL

@ 57 yrs of age - there are a few things I keep with me 24/7
DL,Insurance Cards, DD-214,and(even though I did whatever
My ORIGINAL Draft card!

[doc03]

16. You carry your DD214? I have never been asked for that

since getting out of the Army back in 1970. I thought I would need it to sign up for SS but I signed up on line and was never asked for any identification at all. I don't know if I have a draft card or not, I think you had to turn your original in when you got drafted. Back in "our day" Old Pat probably did a lot of drinking and remembers the bartender asking for it.

[mulsh]

9. I hate to back Pat up but in the early 70's until about 3 years

after the draft ended I was routinely asked for my draft card. This was in Berkeley, Oakland, SF. It was one of the local cops favorite methods of hassling long haired boys. sometime M.P's would do sweeps in Berkeley & Oakland.
Until the draft was ended one was required to carry one's draft card while eligible I have no idea if that requirement changed when registration was reinstated in the 80's . My dad kept his WWII draft card in his walled until he was 37 years old, after which it was in his top dresser drawer.

It made no difference whether one served or not. You got your notice and a card. The draft ended when I was 17 but cops continued to ask for and detain me while the checked with the dispatcher and verified that I was not required to have a draft card.

Pat's a bloviating liar on most fronts but if he got deferments I'm pretty sure he was occasionally asked for his draft card and I'll be he nearly shit his pants each time it happened.

[zipplewrath]

12. Yeah, that's my recollection as well

It was a common request. Quite honestly, I'm not sure why. Again, it's a federal offense, not a state offense. But unlike immigration or citizenship status, this is how you would have judged if a adult male needed one back then. His drivers license said "male" and that he was under 37.

[yellowcanine]

11. During the draft you got a draft card when you registered at 18.

The draft card indicated whether you were eligible for the draft (1-A), eligible for the draft as a conscientious objector non-combatant (1-A-O), eligible for alternative service as a conscientious objector (1-0), not eligible as a current or discharged member of the active military (1-C), not eligible as a member of the reserves or National Guard (1-D), not eligible as a conscientious objector performing alternative service (1-W), not eligible as a full-time college student (2-S), not eligible as a full time divinity student (2-D), not eligible as a minister of religion (4-D), not eligible for reasons of health, being a general fuck up, or GAY (4-F)

In other words, both people who did not serve and those who did serve would have a draft card.
I am guessing that Buchanan had a 4-F for reasons of being a general fuck-up.

[Morning Dew]

15. I don't know if anyone ever asked to see his draft card

but my dad ( born 1935) continued to carry his card into the 1980s - long after it was no longer necessary for him to carry it.

[political_Dem]

17. Maybe it was his draft card for the KKK. You never know. He does seem like the Imperial Wizard.

[NNN0LHI]

18. When I moved to Indianapolis in 1986 a neighbor handed me one of these cards

I brought it to the local FBI office.

Don

[hayu_lol]

19. Police probably asked Buchanan for a lot of id when he was young...

he and his brothers used to cruise the beltway and jump out of their car(dad's olds)to beat up any minority walking alone they could find. Cute bunch. Thugs.

[political_Dem]

21. I'm glad you did. Thank you for having the sense of decency to do so.

I doubt that Mr. Buchanan would have the same amount of empathy when it comes to his fellow man.

[Renegades of Funk]

23. Amazed

I am more amazed that they had a website in 1986.

[Soylent Brice]

20. you unpatriotic bastard, you.

:sarcasm:

[spanone]

22. i was never ever asked for my draft card...that's absurd