New star of the Christian Right has story of being an ex-Islamic terrorist exposed as a lie

[ck4829]

Dr. Ergun Caner, the president of Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary, has been a rising star on the Religious Right, entertaining audiences at major Religious Right gatherings with his hip, irreverent stories about his upbringing as a radical Muslim and his conversion to Christianity. Just this week, his story was featured on Focus on the Family’s broadcast, “From Jihad to Jesus.”

Turns out, according to a growing chorus of critics – many of them Southern Baptists and other Christians – Caner has apparently been lying for years about his childhood and his life story. It’s hard to even summarize the extent of the deceptions being described by his critics, but they include his claims to have grown up in Turkey and to have personally involved in Islamic Jihad, when court records from his parents’ divorce place him in Columbus, Ohio when he was just a few years old. Check some of the critical websites for voluminous debunking of Caner’s colorful (and apparently fanciful) stories about learning about America through TV broadcasts in Turkey and more. Some charges are even more directly related to his ministry, such as his claims to have debated top Muslim scholars around the world. Caner’s critics say there’s no evidence of those debates.

These are no vague or reckless charges, but carefully documented exposes that draw from Caner’s sermons, speeches, and online videos, and other public records. Liberty doesn’t seem to have responded publicly, but recently posted a revised version of Caner’s bio with disputed claims removed.

Some of Caner’s critics are willing to forgive him, but only if he owns up to his massive deceptions. Meanwhile, Caner and his supporters have been trying to get his critics to shut up. Caner himself has pulled the Religious Right’s favored religious persecution card, reportedly saying in a memo to his Liberty colleagues, “I never thought I would see the day when alleged ‘Christians’ join with Muslims to attack converts.”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/religious-right%E2%80%99s-star-ex-muslim-serial-liar

Here's something that's funny. For a supposed ex-terrorist, it sure wasn't hard for him to get a permit for a concealed carry weapon.

http://www.witnessesuntome.com/caner/caner-ccw-web.pdf

[Dogtown]

1. K&R n/t

[FiveGoodMen]

2. Heads-up, world. If guys like this really believed in God, they wouldn't dare lie like that!

Followers may really be duped, but Caner and many like him cannot possibly mean what they're saying. They'd be afraid of damnation.

[barbtries]

7. definitely.

one of the ways i've always known that gw's "faith" was bogus was that if he really believed in hell he would know that's where he was headed, and would change his murderous ways.

[liberation]

21. Faith by definition is bogus... nt

[RaleighNCDUer]

8. Careful - I said much the same thing about church leaders in general

and got piled on. I firmly believe that most clerics of ANY faith, from Anabaptists to Zoroastrians and anything in between, who rise to the highest ranks CANNOT believe what they profess, and what they expect their underlings to adhere to.

[lolly]

17. Not necessarily

Lying is OK if it's "for a good cause."

And lying for Jesus is, of course, THE good cause. If it brings people to The Truth, then it somehow really isn't a lie. Or something.

Lying to teenagers about STDs is another good cause, so that's OK too.

[Mojeoux]

19. That's it. It's OK to tell Lies for Jesus.

"Lies for Jesus," it sounds like the hippest new sect around.
Who wouldn't want to tell "Lies for Jesus?"

Ten Lies For Jesus:

Lie #1 Pat Robertson was a great man.:+

Lie #2 A black man grabbed me and wrote "Obama" backwards on my face.:dunce:

Lie #3 That woman put a hex on my duck!:crazy:

Lie #4 Slavery is good because the slaves are brought to Jesus.:puke:

Lie #5 A liberal ate my baby.:evilgrin:

Lie #6 All gays can be straight with Jesus.:wtf:

Lie #7 Jesus appeared on my chicken dumplings and told me to vote republican. :silly:

Lie #8 It's part of Jesus' great plan that 12 year old girls should marry old men.:spank:

Lie #9 Your a sinner so I can rob you blind. x(

Lie #10 Jesus wants me to be rude to Muslim looking people,in His honor. :tinfoilhat:
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[FiveGoodMen]

24. Pat Robertson WAS a great man?

You got my hopes up there for a minute! ;)

[Mojeoux]

26. Oh, am I thinking of the late Oral Roberts?

HEEE' YULL!

[Ikonoklast]

3. Scammers getting scammed.

I heard this guy speak on a talk show once, and I thought he was a little full of it, myself.


He even touched on his debates with 'top Muslim clerics' and besting them with undeniable logic.


That's when I thought, "Sure you did, pal."

[Dappleganger]

4. It's ok, I'm sure Glenn Beck will come to his defense. nt

[ingac70]

5. kick.

[robdogbucky]

6. Reminds me of that other one

Walid somebody, who is always trotted out by the right after some terrorist incident.

Turns out that guy is a big fraud as well.


Just my dos centavos


robdogbucky

[ck4829]

11. Walid Shoebat

The bank he says he bombed can't remember the attack and his own family says he's no terrorist (Of course, he replies by saying the family is lying, he was a big bad terrorist).

[Liberal_in_LA]

9. lying psychopath

[Rex]

10. Wow, those are some big lies! How can anyone be so stupid!?

Oh right, liars never think they will get caught. Amazing how someone can just throw themselves into an absolute fabrication and make it a lifestyle.

[Canuckistanian]

12. It's like they believe there's an invisible shield around them

That protects them from showing up on even the most rudimentary Google search.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

13. what a lowlife POS.

But if he confesses to his god, everything's cool, right?

[Solly Mack]

14. k/r

[eyewall]

15. The Christians will continue to believe him

if this goes the usual way no one in his former camp will disavow anything he's said.

[awoke_in_2003]

25. they believe in a mythical being...

if you believe in that, you can believe anything.

[LiberalLovinLug]

27. and it will

"...his supporters have been trying to get his critics to shut up"

Supporters? You mean people willing to disregard lies just so they don't ruin their preconceived beliefs about the infallibility of a "man of god"? Sounds a lot like W. Bush supporters.

Reminds me, I wonder how that Hetero retraining is going for the good reverend Haggart?

[Roland99]

16. Not surprising. Brain-dead religious sheeple will believe ANYTHING if it bolsters their beliefs.

idiots.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

20. The RIGHT-WING Christians will continue to believe him

The rest of us are trying to create good, respectful relations with the many Muslim immigrants in our community.

[Roland99]

22. That's the type I meant. I don't think of anyone that actually follows the teaching of Jesus as.....

a brain-dead sheeple.

[BrklynLiberal]

18. The arrogance is so amazing that it never occurs to them that their lies will be found out.

[dballance]

23. So much for "Thou shall not bear false witness..."

I guess when it's so profitable it's okay to tell a few fanciful stories.

[SpiralHawk]

28. A Republicon faux 'chistian' lying. How typical.

I've got news for the lot of them: Jesus Christ don't like torture, and will personally crucify-for-eterntiy any republicon pretend 'christians' who is evil enuf to support torture.